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Green to HBF. We should not need to rely on Green in the forward line when we have so much forward talent to develop (sans FF, Jack CHF). Green may play his last year, whenever that might be, in the BP anyway. Correctly, Green's overall best footy has been forward, but his best year was when playing back. I don't see Maric 'rushing the yards' at his point. Green can get contested ball, mark, and rake accurate left foot kicking through the opposition structures.

Valid and effective point. I too see good attendance in the MCC from the outer. There's no doubt not enough supporters attend, although, did we not once have the best percentage turnout of crowd v members? But a high percentage of stuff-all doesn't equate to good crowd numbers. Anyway, the home crowds are poor and all the reasons have been covered elsewhere. Thanks for responding.

Like old dee, I'd like further explanation of above. Regarding going to ES as opposed to the G, if you live in the bush, I'm finding it so easy to get to off citylink, straight into underground park, and get back on the road to home after. In fact more than once, when the G carpark has been closed for wet weather, and the surrounding underground carparks will not allow football followers into them, I have turned around and driven back to NE Victoria without seeing the game. And a 1:10pm start on a sunday game makes a positive difference. I will not attend twighlight (4pm)on a sunday due to length of trip home afterwards. So, if you're one of the 50% of members who live regionally, give the 1pm sunday game a crack.

Because 50% of them live in regional Victoria and not in the suburb (sic) of Melbourne. That's our demographic. Oh yes, 13,002. My wife and I will come down from Wangaratta.

...and he needs to play on the half back flank.

Fair call... What about Jamar as captain? At least he is solid at the game. We should forget about the captain being media and sponsor savvy for now and just have a captain who can lead, in a fashion. If Jamar is enticed away from the club as is rumoured, then what about Stef as captain?

I think the general thrust of his article was that the AFL can't call a tank a tank, so therefore cannot investigate Bailey's claim. You're right though, he did not include Carltank, Feraltank, WestCoastTank, CollyTank...the list of player development/experimentation goes on and on....

I see..... B)

Which is?

We do seem to lack height down back, and have stuggled against tall, solid opposition forwards. Mind you, with poor forward and midfield defensive pressure these guys are really under the pump with the ball coming in so fast. I'm not sure why Warnock has not been able to break back in to the key defensive position. I would play him. Bartram has skill deficiencies but you can't doubt his courage and aggression, things we badly need rignt now.

Interesting Rollo, that you defend Jurrah and you have an avatar of Robbo. Both players have the same deficiency in that they can offset the goals they kick by opposition goals. How? [censored] weak forward pressure!

In the early 80's we signed the "best available coach" with a proven record of grand final wins. He coached for 5 years for no finals leading up to just before the 'Swooper' Northey era. The "cheap" coach, Swooper, oversaw a miracle run of wins in '87 to firstly make the finals from a hopeless ladder position, then to play a preliminary final. He introduced a gameplan called "kick the f...in' thing", as opposed to his predecessor, long and through the corridor. So my point is that the highly paid, best possible coach realy didn't turn our fortunes. We paid him a fortune (for the times). So tell me, why is a "Malthouse",for example, going to win a premiership for us. What has changed that much? Let's face it, Collingwood, now bodily strong, and with talented players, basically bully other sides with their strength, accuracy and commitment. Do we have the 'cattle' for Malthouse to spend 10 years to turn them into AFL bullies, the time he took to 'arse' a winning Collingwood combination?

crap

Structures break down when certain players are unaccountable

Kennett knows how to get his face in the news, and by extension Hawthorn some publicity. He knows how to keep the Hawthorn brand out there. He does not actually believe a word he says. By kicking the longest known sports club, with an ill President and some footy club growing pains in the guts, he effectively washes MFC of the news pages and replaces it with Hawthorn. Regarding the actual art of tanking, Anderson knows that footballers are playing for their livlihoods so will play at their given best at the time. So what should any 'tanking' club be punished for? Developing players ability to work in an unfamiliar position? Getting some games into some raw talent? No, Kennett is good for keeping Aussie Rules in the public arena, so he can go his hardest. Like Eddie.

I can live with Sylvia gone. Given the time it has taken for him to develop but still be inconsistent, and still be unaccountable, and still never appearing to play for anyone but himself,and never to be leadership material, and over inflated with regard to what he's worth, we can live without him and develop others. He will be a great player in a developed team, if they can live with him.

Names I have suggested to my friends. Jordie Mc as Captain to set the bar. RR, you've been concussed by the recent machinations.

heheheheheheh....ya killin' me 45.

Thanks Bub for putting a human face on it. Totally agree. Jimmy needs to remain as president of MFC, active or not. We love him as our leader, like the Brits love the Queen. Some of those MFC high paid extras can pull his weigh, and theirs!

"Time to get filthy" needs to mean, win contested ball and win tackle count. These are only stats but they are usually definitive. Be a good start, anyway.

The idea is right given our problem with mature onground leaders. By their nature and standing within their clubs, they are not available at almost any price. But if you could, then; Jonathon Brown Joel Selwood Matthew Pavlic

Imagine if we had the team whereby Jack would be the 3rd forward pencilled in each week instead of the first. Not ideal development to have him used to plug every hole this team has. I hope we don't destroy him in the process.

The truth of the matter is this should be in one of the other Bailey threads.

Totally agree. To qualify the TS theme, if he was to stay it would need to be on realistic money, so in essence we need to say goodbye.

Two first round draft picks, plus an ironclad guarantee by the AFL,from Vlad, that MFC will never be shafted again. We tanked hard for that pick.