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Richmond have just re-signed Maric despite only playing 3 games this year. They are looking to get rid of Vickery. Sort of gives you an idea of their assessment of Vickery's capabilities.

You were warned the thread would be locked if this petty squabbling continued. it now is.....

A lot of the Victorian clubs are no different than us, and longing for the past doesn't necessarily add anything to the operations of a football club in the 21st century. St.Kilda trying to move back to Moorabbin.....but at what cost? Collingwood no longer at Vic park. Richmond retain Punt road butwere gifted $12M by the federal government to upgrade. Hawthorn long left Glenferrie, now Waverley, but moving to Keysborough in the future. North still training on a substandard ground with training facilities provided again by government. Essendon at Tullamarine. Supporters will go to wherever the club is. The suburban supporter bases no longer exist, except for that of the Western Bulldogs. It is why they changed their name to not reflect a single suburb. Bentleigh club is owned by the MFC, but the pokies are tied to the location ( and numbers limit) within the council boundaries. As I understand if we were to sell, we would have to purchase somewhere else in the same council area before selling, to move the pokies licence. So you would need a current pub with no pokies, or a complete greenfield operation, with all the attendant objections from residents. Doing nothing, without spending a bucketload of cash on alternatives is probably the only viable option today.

Absolutely right....but their major problem is that because Tom Boyd has eaten up a huge amount of their salary cap, that they have to look for cheap replacements. That means either swapping players out or giving away picks. It's probably the major reason their name isn't mentioned when the more talented players are rumoured to be seeking a new home.

The Punt Road End aren't happy that someone noted GWS have won more finals in the past 20 years than Richmond.

Enough....

Dan Richardson, their football director was castigated for saying that Richmond couldn't rebuild, because the fans couldn't/wouldn't tolerate it. How true he was, and the emergence of the Board challenge at the Toiyges is living proof. That said, they did go down the path of importing good average players for a number of years to get themselves off the bottom quickly. Maric, Rance, Houli, Grigg, Hampson, Chaplin all did that job excellently, and they played finals. You will find those names in Little Goffys list of Richmonds best players. But then they stopped and went down the path of trying for the "big one". Trouble was they got burned when they couldn't attract anyone so they just kept going for second best ala Yarran. Why...because the fans wanted it. Apart from Yarran, with zero games to his name and Townsend (who?) I don't think they have traded for the past 2 years. And they gave away their 2nd round pick this year as part of the Yarran trade. So this year they have pick 6 and nothing else with which to rebuild. And their fans are all pressuring to bring in Prestia with his injuries, thinking a single player will lift them to glory. Unlike us who HAVE rebuilt, and as LG has noted, all their best players have been there since 2011. They are all ageing and have little currency in the trade market, since the fans again would not them trade Cotchin, Martin, Rance or Reiwoldt. The future is very very bleak for the Toiyges.

I've often wondered the same as Nasher. The opposition ruck won't grab it because he would be tackled immediately. Where does he hit it? To a contest where there are more opposition players? The scenario is only valid in the centre circle, but what we are seeing around the ground is teams nullifying ruck contests, through 3rd man up.

Gold Coast have 6 picks up to pick 27! And Prestia/O'Meara want out as well, which will surely yield further picks. They have delisted 4. Are they going to go the youth path completely, or will they need to trade in some experience as well, or both? Everyone is talking about who is available to bring in, but with this scenario the opportunity is who can be traded out to secure some of this excess of picks. I trust Todd, Jason and Josh to exploit these opportunities, like they did last year.

Exactly......the current one doesn't run out until 31 Oct (IIRC). Hogan and the club don't know how much can be offered until the numbers are in. And the kid has probably gone on holidays now, so don't expect anything until he gets back.

Not likely. Vickery refuses to ruck at Richmond. More likely to be a big log to bring the ball to ground for Puopolo and Rioli. Roughead unlikely to ever return, so Vickery becomes the stay at home FF (since he doesn't chase or run)

Most players are contracted to 31 October. Trade week is 10-20 October. So ( without knowing the intricate details of each players contract), they are all contracted.

Vince "played" on him in the 2nd and 3rd quarter, but never got close at any time.

How did Essendon and Carlton get to play in their traditional strips today? One rule for some.......

The pity is that the numbers themselves mean nothing. We are all aware that the Hawthorn "tasmanian" membership is the only way locals can get into the ground at Launceston due to the small size. North and the Bulldogs are handing out 3 game memberships to schoolkids and anyones name they purloin. Collingwood has 75K members but can only get 17K to turn up to a game? The only number that matters is membership dollars.

They want to replace Ty Vickery who won't run, ruck or chase with Travis who can't run, ruck or chase.....

Just under $78,000 bid so far. Plenty of chances to bid for all manner of things. I'm sure BBO and friends will be bidding for the barrel of Tyrells wine, or the 10 slabs of Melbourne bitter

Having watched that game, we should have a truly good chance of taking Geelong down again. Their coach took 3/4 of the game to realise kicking long to a forward line of Hawkins and not much else wasn't working. Bartel is picking up superannuation and simply shouldn't be on the field. If it weren't for Dangerfield and Selwood, they would be bottom half of the ladder.

The last couple of games would have demonstrated how utterly dependant we are on Max Gawn. Not just for his rucking, but his telling defensive and offensive grabs, when everything was on the line. Spencer can fill a role for a couple of games if needed, but still cannot kick properly, mark overhead or is mobile enough for AFL level. We all know ruckmen take time, and we still don't know about Max and Mitch King. We certainly need to have someone ready to take over the Max mantle in 5 years or so.

Guarantee that rumour will become fact...... but in 2017.......... when Collingwood qualify and we won't as we are playing finals......

If they get the pick ahead of Essendrug, then it is a good thing. But like us, 1 player doesn't make the difference, it is a long process of astute selection, development and off field improvement that gets you there.

We need 3 picks in the ND ( compulsory) Wagner likely to be upgraded to full list. We have traded away 1st round pick. Hibberd and or Hurley to fit in? i.e we need 4, 5 or 6 "holes" Delisting contracted players like Dunn, Garland, Lamumba is not feasible, as we will push the salary cap this coming year, and their salary is included if you simply delist. The uncontracted players are the ones in the gun.

game on Casey radio http://www.3ser.org.au/programs.html?vfl-game-of-the-day

What I'm looking forward to this weekend is not just Petracca and Brayshaw, but when they join Viney and Oliver for the first time.

Another father-son?