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I wouldn't be unhappy getting Boak either.....at the right price Not worth Pick 4 IMO

Every week a "why we'll win this week" pops up Every week we end up getting smashed

And I wouldn't call those guys Goal Kicking Mids either My point that for a goal kicking mid, he hasn't kicked many goals thus far

The outome was worse But the position Chip was in, he could've ended up in a wheel chair If you watch White, he actually deviates from his line to make sure he cops Chip in the head

Wellingham did get 5, down to 3 with an early plea Matt White's hit on Frawley was far, far worse - the outcome could've been very ugly

Not disagreeing with the thought of getting Boak, but this is a bit of a myth His season tallies of goals: 2007 4 2008 9 2009 7 2010 13 2011 12 2012 5 so far thats hardly what I would call a goal kicking mid

that kid second from the back looks happy to be there

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Can't disagree with that, however, the kids we'd have at our disposal would probably be vastly different if we'd had Judd

The emotional side of football made me despise Judd when he passed over the club he supported as a kid But when the dust settled, I thought it was perhaps the best long term thing that could've happened Would've bought us up to middle table perhaps, but would've left very little for the players around him (plus we would've missed on some of the kids we picked up who will take us through in the future)

4 years of tanking? No. 4 years of being terrible with perhaps 1 - 2 games MAX that are "questionable" is more accurate You even contradict yourself by saying we've tanked for 4 years yet even if we play to our absolute best we'll still be bottom 3 (implying we're not much chop) Newsflash, we've been not much chop for 4 / 5 years now

Did you miss his goal from about 45m out yesterday?

Gysberts has shown tremendous ability in his brief career, Taggert is an unknown and pick 36, however reports are he's a good ball user and hard at the contest, Viney we've all seen / heard / read about etc Additionally, we have classy players in the midfield as it is right now, re just need a run at them being injury free Blease has pace and skill, needs game time before he can adequately rotate through midfield, Trengove is better than he's currently playing, Jones is shouldering a big load, and will be better for more support, Grimes has shown in glimpses how damaging he could be in the midfield, Tappy could have a run through there, Sylvia (whilst a better forward IMO) can have a run through there, add 2 pacy ball users with pick 4 and 12 from the "super draft" and suddenly the midfield doesn't look too bad If Port said they'd take pick 12 for Boak, sign me up, but there is no way they would bite at that Free agency may be able to bring us a couple of solid mids struggling to get a run in good teams (a la Koby Stevens WCE) A genuine, proven monster forward in Cloke is as rare as hens teeth, and he's about to enter his prime

I don't think Royal is the anti-christ, but the benefit when Ratten was our midfield coach, and the clear drop off after he left was evident

Loved what Ratten did with out midfield, and was dirty when he left I advocated him as a potential senior coach for us, but it's looking potentially though as he isn't quite up to grade as the man Would love him back as a mid coach, don't see it happening

Cloke A midfield can be built, and quickly (especially with a raft of high picks in the upcoming apparent "super draft") We also have some valuable mids who will mature into that role (Grimes, Trengove, Blease on rotation, Gysberts) Viney will be coming in, we need to snare a couple of classy mids in the draft, fast track their development (we'll have a grunt midfield to offer them protection) and then have them ramming it down Clark / Clokes' throat

I'd say GWS have enough youth, they wouldn't want to trade # 1 for 2 early picks (this is not accounting for the fact that we will use our 1st pick on JV and I don't believe any secret deals will be done)

Don't understand this We may've "won", but we still had a # 1 pick turn his back on the club after giving us little / nothing on field Sorry, I'm filthy and will be until he retires (and then will still be filthy and tell my future grandkids about what a miserable little mercenary he is)

I realise we won't win all 11, that's fanciful, but I absolutely want to win as many as we can from here on in Don't care about the picks, I want wins, respect, credibilty and a winning culture

Taggert is on the LTI list, Cook doesn't look ready for AFL level (will he ever), we're playing plenty of kids.....I want the club to have some respect. I want to see wins

Absolutely agree. Screw tanking, screw getting good picks, I want wins However, reality: We may beat GC and GWS (x2), when was the last time we beat North? Brissy pantsed us earlier in the year. Port are playing OK football At the moment, we are the easy beats and these teams will be relishing having a game against us Lets get 2 wins before we start talking about 7 more

I disagree, Buddy just has to breathe on someone the wrong way and he gets done. I was surprised he actually escaped penalty for the sling tackle Buddy's been suspeneded before for regulation bumps

Wonder if Caro will rethink Jamar being [censored] at being left out of leadership group (despite the fact he was actually included this year) Mass exodus of players.......3 years and STILL waiting

And the talk of Misson only a few weeks ago...here "Right now Melbourne is using the midweek session to train hard. This is different to what Misson faced at his two previous clubs, where mid-season sessions were more often a process of ticking the body and mind over." "A session like we had today where we are doing accountability drills, really strong, hard game running - next pre-season we are going to be able to do that all January instead of teaching structural stuff," Misson said. "We are going to be able to have those hard running, hard spreading sessions [so] by the time games come along we are used to game running." Important quotes as relating to our current lack of ability to run games out at the moment

The gameplan Bailey implemented would not take us to ultimate glory The training was clearly light under Bailey, therefore the players were "fresher" for games However the fitness levels also would not take us to ultimate glory The style under Bailey was very much an outside game Neeld's game is a much harder more contested style - this is more physically taxing than simply running The players need bodies that can withstand physical battering - right now they do not have that Hence the reason (as Misson himself said) they are still being flogged on the training track during the week. He also said that come next year, the real hard stuff / running at training should be done and dusted by the time the season proper starts They are clearly not running out games at the moment Despite people think that they're elite sportsmen and should be able to stand up to this, this is simply not the case It is clear the players are physically tired during the game, this will change in coming years