Redleg

If you need proof we were mentally shot yesterday, here are 2 examples to illustrate it. Petracca marks 40 out straight in front and passes to left footed Tyson, a worse shot for goal than him, on the left flank. ANB running straight into goal from 35 out, passes to Weid in pocket with 2 Eagles on him. There were many more because we were belted mentally and played accordingly.

I hope not. The only real pace we have.

Absolutely not.

Ok Wise you are generally positive and I will now go into positive mode. We are better than at any time in the last 12 years. We have some real talent. We have seen that we can play finals, certainly at the G, where earlier this year we were doubting ourselves. Going forward we need to identify areas of improvement. Gawn was done and Preuss would help him no end. Get him. Run and carry is needed. Hopefully Hunt gets back to his best.Maybe Baker can improve. Bring in some run and carry. Skill. Identify those without required level and move them on. Still look for contested players and outside players but identify skill as a major requirement. Pace. Look to improve in that area as well but still with the skill requirement. Try and find another Jeffy type. Cone back next year with real hunger.

Totally disagree. Would not have entered their mind. The aim was a GF not to play a particular club. I think it is more to do with being worried about losing to Eagles and not playing their game but being pressured into mistakes and then losing total confidence in their basic abilities.

What I find disappointing in addition to the fumbles, skill errors, brain fades, dropped marks, slipping over and general pathetic footy from us was the lack of aggression. 34 tackles is a record low in finals over the last 10 years, that from a hard, contested footy side. All it takes to tackle is effort. Also when the game was basically gone in the 2nd half and both teams knew that the Eagles would play in the GF, the Eagles players continued to be aggressive to us and manhandle us and get in our faces, while we gave NOTHING back. They would have been worried about being reported, so were never going to go over the top, but we did NOTHING and gave NOTHING back. My capital letter are probably more aggressive that we were on the day. Where was the fight, anger and aggression that you would expect, if you were being embarrassed in front of the whole footy watching public. We were basically meek and IMO just gave up. We were unable to outscore a side in the second half, that was intent on not getting injured and already thinking of the GF. That was really pathetic from my viewpoint. Yes we had a great year and while a loss is ok, a humiliating one is hard to accept, from a side who promised to give everything in the game and actually gave very little. Last, to finish my little rant, I have banged on on DL for years about needing pace and skill and we still do. I am actually sick of hearing about players who under pressure clearly are not up to it, that they run well or can lay a tackle .Some of the poor decisions and skill errors yesterday should not be glossed over. Yes players can have a bad day and some had their worst, but there are those and I won't name them, as I don't want to be called a hater and I don't hate MFC players, who have these days every time the pressure is on and we just need to keep getting better. All in all a great year by the boys.

I think the problem here is that Jordan was brought in because of his experience and finals nouse and today, he, himself, started the rot. He turned it over with a shocking handball for a goal, he then did it again, he then belted Ryan in the guts for another one and then gave away a 50 for stupidity and another goal. He seemed to go half hearted at the contest a few times as well. Most on here are furious with that. As someone said he was given 1/10 by a Journo for today's effort. His bad play and resultant goals started the rot and yes we went downhill from there. The team was putrid, but IMO and many others on here, he started it. Confidence can be lost in momentum and he killed it. I am not knocking Jordan, only his game today. TBH, I think he would agree.

Yeah, who needs a talented forward who could turn out to be the next Josh Kennedy.

Well looks like I got it right, we were f....d, over.

Yes what is it with that? Multiple Dees players falling over and costing us turnovers and goals. This is not the first game that we seem to be playing on ice.

Great year and proud of boys except for today which was terrible.

Just lulling then into a false sense of security.

Give a team the ball and they kill you. Turnovers destroying us. Also getting smashed in contested ball.

I haven’t as I taped it. WJ might have or someone else.

Hard not to get affected by that.

Has laid 3 tackles in the first 3 minutes. Does look quick.

He is not just a tall back. He could play forward and even wing in a pinch. IMO we only have one quick key back in the club and that is Frosty. Of course he is not star and you wouldn't over pay for him, but they are obviously struggling with their salary cap. If you had him IMO and Preuss, the target in our draft and trading would be purely speed and goal kicking ability type players.

Well the Tiger supporters should be blaming their mids.

Now I know we are f....d. You better believe it.

You rang?

Not sure why people are talking about playing the Pies, they are in it, we aren't.

Believe it or not my wife, daughter and grand daughter met him and he couldn’t have been nicer. Very friendly and gave them time he didn’t need to.

Losing sides often look sh-thouse but it is usually the other side that causes that. It is not just that they played poorly, they were made to play poorly by a better side on the night. Credit when credit is due.

Disagree and I would say that most of the footy world would agree with me.

Agree Nasher.