Redleg

I think we should be targeting Mitch Wallis, who is a year older and on the outer at the Dogs apparently and will come a lot cheaper. If you can get both great.

Maybe that is part of the problem if it comes to pass. How do you bloody get in when the Cats have more members than seats.

Nic Nat I think is only contracted until end of 2019. His next contract will be well south of $1m per year and he will accept it, as he has been heavily paid while injured. WC have been good to him and he will repay them with a reduced contract.

Would there still be umpires?

Pity. I was hoping the Port game would be our turning point.

We are apparently querying the Danger free and I hope we query a few others as well, but in reality the best we will get on some of the decisions is, “yes sorry we made a mistake”. A fat lot of good that will do us. I agree though the umpires have cost us 3 games with multiple mistakes mainly resulting in goals to the opposition and goals denied to us. If the Scotts coached us, their heads would have exploded on TV.

Well the Coach disagrees with you, even though you think his suggestion is ridiculous. He mentioned the couple of chances we had to take the ball oob and Jeffy was clearly one of them in the last minute or so. I am not saying I disagree with you.

And that is it. However, dissecting the last 2 minutes also ignores the errors earlier, that lead you to that point. For example, if Tom Mac, our best set shot, iced his 20 metre shot straight in front, we are 5 points more ahead when the siren goes.

After watching the game again, I noticed another thing that helped cause our loss, weak leadership. Look who stood up for the Cats, Danger, Ablett, Hawkins and Selwood. When the game needed to be won they stood up and led. With us, who of our leaders stood up? Who led the way? Who directed the others? Who took the mark or laid the tackle or made the hard gut run to set the example and/ or create the game winning/ saving piece of the play? I think our leaders were merely observers. We lack quality leadership.

Keep posting Kevin, people are just extra upset, in fact gutted, as many have said, over what we see as inevitable failure after supreme efforts by the team in adverse circumstances. Murphy’s Law flourishes at the MFC, where something often happens and seemingly only to us, to cause major disappointment.

We clearly have the bad kind.

I would have thought all forwards bar perhaps Spargo, would have gone back in the last minute or two, with the mids being told to keep the ball locked in the pack. Surely after so many close losses in the last two years, this should have been ingrained. Obviously not.

Another little stat. In this game a 50 against us which commentators agreed was wrong cost a goal and we lose by 2 points. Against Saints 3x 50’s and 3 goals and 2 point loss and Port a few more cost goals and 10 point loss and none to us in all 3 games. How does that happen?

Agree not to rush him in, but he has had 48 disposals and 31 tackles, some bone hurting, in 2 VFL games . That will appeal to the selectors eventually. Also he is 188cms and can play mid or forward and can take a mark and kick a long goal. A few attributes we could use.

That’s fine but he staged. He put his arms out before the contact that he initiated. He staged. End of story. It will be the end because nothing will happen.

Probably the same way the mark/ free wasn’t paid to Hogan in the goal square when his arm was grabbed and pulled down, the same way Jeffy didn’t get a free in the goal square for being thrown to the ground without the ball or the same way holding the ball was paid instantly against us and not against them even after trying to break 2-3 tackles.

Saw that. Pretty poor from a player who is the head of the Players Association.

My last two words in OP state what will happen.

Agree Sue. One glaring consistency in all of our 4 close losses is gifted goals to the opposition and several taken off us or not paid. 6 goals each to Port and Saints and one to us. Yesterday at least 4 off free kicks or the next kick after the free. Marks not paid, frees missed to us. Yes we also share blame, but am looking forward to a game where it goes the other way and the opposition blame the umpires for losing to us.

Should Dangerfield be reported for staging. Having now viewed the incident again several times, it is clear he staged for a free. That is against the rules and a punishable offence. He throws his arms out before any contact with Brayshaw and when he is nowhere near the throw in or ruck contest. He runs into the back of Brayshaw who is stationary, just in front of him, wildly waving his arms as if he is being held back by two sumo wrestlers. He has clearly staged to get a free kick. The AFL MRP looks at consequences of an act. This resulted in a goal that changed the result of the game. What will Michael Christian or his boss the former Cats player and footy manager and now AFL footy manager Steve Hocking do, absolutely nothing.

They were committed last night, it was execution and decision that cost us.

Finally a likely option.

I will go with Richos comment last night, that it is a disgraceful rule and what happened was shameful and it could affect the result. It did. The other commentators agreed. Listen also to Kane Cornes on AFL site who claimed that free and Harmes 50 cost us the game. BTW how can Danger go up for the ruck when he is standing 20 metres away. It was blatant cheating. He was never going up merely conning a free goal. Umpire is an absolute idiot. Where was his feel for the game?

As far as O. Mac is concerned, a woeful post. He was giving probably 15 kgs and 200 games to Hawkins who was also given several unstoppable passes. Open your eyes. Yes he had a poorer game than his best and Hawkins probably had the best of his career , so why not move Frost on to him earlier? Why not have Lewis or someone else in front of him cutting off the lead? It is not all Oscars fault. There were 21 others and a box full of coaches who could have done a bit more.

Agree. While it is not life or death it is full on passion. If it isn’t, it is just a distraction or light entertainment. Hurt comes from the passion. Joy/bliss does also. Every passionate demon will be hurting and will be gutted again. Hopefully success is coming soon for all of us with the passion for this club.