Redleg

But they are the ones not doing the Neale deal. If they do they have 5 and 11. They also had 6 and knew we wanted it and then traded it. That was not an accident.

So would the FD but we can’t get May and a top 10 pick for him. Have you read the previous 100 pages on here or any newspaper or any trade article on the net?

Freo had 6 and will get 5 for Neale. If Neale is traded they would have had both picks. Freo chose to get rid of 6.

With all of the diverse opinions and predictions posted on this thread, I am still to see any post more accurate than my early post, which was” we will either do the Hogan for May deal or we won’t”.

Depends who is the one that gets the call on whether it was right.

If he does it will be for less than 2 first rounders.

To be traded for pick 53. Is that for real?

I get the feeling a number of clubs and managers are not going to forget Freo’s behaviour in this trade period.

Get the feeling that the AFL might get involved with the amount of deals being stuck and players in limbo. It is becoming a farce and a bad look for the AFL.

What part of “ we will not be pursuing JH “ is not clear? They are out of any JH deal.

There are 2 problems in the May scenario, getting him and fitting him in the salary cap. Dealing with the second first, he could be paid a modest amount in 19 and then more in later years as more players like Lewis and Jones retire and others are moved on. Getting him is harder unless GC are really desperate to move him on and are prepared to help. Our first pick next year and maybe a bundling of some of our picks this year and a player or two might be able to get it done though it would be highly unlikely. Would they have any interest in JKH, Wagner, Keilty, Joel Smith, Billy Stretch, Jeffy, ANB, Tim Smith as part of a pick/player package?

We are an injury away from having too many forwards and Hogan has played defence as a junior.

Could it be Pies to clear Tom Langdon to Dockers to join his brother, on condition they pull out of Hogan deal, leaving them with an extra pick and being the only suitor for May.

We are trading a 23 year old possible champion forward, for a 27 year old defender, who will probably play on him when the teams meet.

JM may have put paid to our alternative May deals, when he said today, that without the Hogan deal we won't get May.

You are the best. McLure and Morris can eat your dust.

Have a chat to the bloke in cell block h cell 56 and see if he has any advice.

Hope you are never in trouble.

Hanneberry and 28 for 39 and next year's Saints 2nd pick. Can that possibly be correct. Traded for nearly nothing.

He can call it what he wants. Not much different to what he said at the airport, that he hadn't committed to GWS yet and was only going up to have a look. Next day a fully professional video came out of him in GWS gear saying he was Giant. If people make statements to knowingly deceive others, what are they called?

Hogan gone and we have May and KK, so nothing much. Also Freo shouting all the other FD's lunch.

Also there is more sense ( with a little humour ) and less anger at other posters, than the rest of DL.

AFL Site article sums it up nicely. " MELBOURNE is still waiting for a reasonable offer from Fremantle for key forward Jesse Hogan, Demons football manager Josh Mahoney says. Hogan, 23, has told the Demons he would be open to a trade back to his home state of Western Australia and toured the Fremantle facilities last week. The Demons reportedly rejected the Dockers' first offer for Hogan on Thursday, which included pick No.11 and a future second-round draft selection. "Jesse came to us and said he wants to explore the opportunity," Mahoney said. "Basically, if Fremantle want to get Jesse Hogan, they know the deal they have to give for us and Jesse's aware of that. "They haven't spoken to us about anything that entertains us at all about doing a deal." Melbourne is also in the race for Gold Coast captain Steven May, but Mahoney made it clear that the Hogan deal will take precedence before any discussions take place with the Suns. "We've got other deals we want to do," Mahoney said. "At the moment the offer they're giving to us doesn’t help us in any way."

The major reason I dislike him so much.

I think we will rookie another experienced ruck and he could be the one. If Max or Preuss go down, there is no back up, as Bradtke will be too immature.