Redleg

Developing nicely.

I think that for LJ to go to WC and let them use the PSD this year, would be really low, sticking it to a club that invested highly in him and that led to his playing in a Premiership. He would be hurting us and his team mates. It would be like that no name number 1 pick who went to the Giants. I don't see LJ doing that to us. Aside from the PSD, where they would get him for nothing, I can't see them trading the first or second pick for him, as they will need more high end talent and may rather split the pick. Surely if he was absolutely determined to go home, he would have told us last year and we could have traded for Cerra. That being said, I see LJ signing a short term contract with us, if he doesn't want to commit long term and thereby giving himself time to think about his future, after a couple more years.

Wasn't homesick?

Agree he’s not a dominant ruckman of the competition, if that means being in the best couple, but he was a big part of Tigers flags, a big part and every Tiger player or fan would agree.

Toby says hi.

Agree. If you are wrestling with a decision to leave your teammates and the club that invested a top pick on you only a few years ago,, who you won a flag with and go home, but to a club that could be ordinary for a while, that would play on your mind and probably/possibly affect your form.

Agree and Weid gave Bedford the chance.

Don’t be afraid, everyone has the right to their opinion. See recent post of SWYL about umpire in middle of ground paying the free and he actually told nearest umpire when asked don’t pay 50 as he knew Warner wouldn’t have heard the whistle.

Good point. Players were on the boundary near the crowd and siren goes.

Yes I agree not giving it back quickly can be a 50, as the rule says delay is a ground, but how does that come into play with one second left and umpires signal end of play? All that can possibly be left is the free kick. He can’t pass it or play on as he didn’t even have the ball and if he did it’s a dead ball. Game had been signalled over by the umpires. That is the import thing here, they didn’t signal time on, they signalled game over. Umpires decided therefore no delay, no impeding play and no unsportsmanlike play.

Sue all the things you pointed I don’t disagree with during the game, but there was no time to do any of them, as the game ended 1 second after the free. Do you disagree that umpires routinely don’t give a 50 to someone ignoring the free, if they feel they didn’t know a free was called? That happened here as well.

Yes we are. There is no delay in this case, with the free paid one second before the siren and the water moire signalling game end. Before the ball can be even handed to Prestia the game was over. All that is left is for him to take his kick. The game was over before the Swan picked it up let alone kicked it and all that remained was Prestia’s kick. So no delay, impeding or unsportsmanlike conduct. Umpires often don’t pay 50, if they think the player playing on was unaware of the free. It happens regularly. Correct decision.

Well done Jake, 200 AFL games is always a great achievement.

Sorry Sue, but when the game is over and you have a free kick, the umpire comes over and warns of deviating off the mark and most players go back to defend. That is not delay.

Exactly.

Yes but the umpire didn’t hear it. That was the whole point. The siren blew for about a minute until the umpire put up his arms to acknowledge it. Go back and you will hear the commentators mentioning the siren but umpires oblivious. If umpire had heard siren, game would have stopped and Stynes probably doesn’t even chase his man. I don’t believe Howlett would have paid a 50m if he had heard the siren.

As I said in my post above, under the rule it wasn’t a 50m, unless unsportsmanlike manner, as didn’t impede or delay play. The game ended and Prestia was entitled to his free kick, awarded a second before the siren. Clearly 10 seconds earlier and it’s a 50m penalty. He gets his kick and that’s it. It was not unsportsmanlike as Warner didn’t hear the free and only did it because he thought the game was over. Correct decision, but the hysteria will go on for a while. Btw Swans had 2 shots 20 out taken off them for undisciplined acts and Tigers got a couple of soft free kick goals. As Dimma said, they were 40 points up and it shouldn’t have got to that last second. IMO the decision was correct, simply to see Reiwoldt going beserk. Might be a nice guy, but boy is he dislikeable on the field.

Well actually no. The 50 is given for time wasting, running off the mark, dissent or a further infringement against the team with the free kick. None of those existed. There is no time wasting, as the siren went and he gets his kick no matter. If it happened in the game yes of course, but no time was wasted. As the umpire said it was a commonsense decision. Also, to get the look on Reiwoldt's face it was absolutely the correct decision.

Very funny.

You may have something there with Weid named as an emergency. Tomlinson is very unlucky, as he has been in great form with Casey. I wonder if he could be tried forward if the opportunity arises.

Ar you sure it's not the sheep?

Wont be the Lions with their 3 tall forwards. Don't think Blues either with their 3 tall forwards. Can't see it being us, with LJ and Gus to re-contract and Weid and JVR outside the best 22 atm. I think the Dogs, Swans, Dockers and Cats, if Hawkins has indicated he is retiring, are the main chances, if it is indeed true. If i was picking one, I would say the Dogs have the biggest need.

I believe so . PM Demonland.

Probably not, but I am sure it isn't changed on any legal documents and will revert back on sunday.

I am not sure of the salary cost, which may impact LJ/Gus deals, but if they didn't, I wonder why we wouldn't fill a need now. We need a developing ruckman, who might not be available in the next draft at our pick. There is obviously a good reason if we don't participate and given our recent drafting/trading, it would be very difficult to criticize such a decision. The next AFL draft may really be a few needs selections, rather than best available, given our list atm.