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I wonder, given he is another potential key forward and they have some young ruckmen, whether they will now use their early picks for immediate needs, rather than maybe a developing player, who might need several seasons before playing.

Giant coup: GWS lands axed Eagle - four years after he was snatched from its grasp.

As Anthony Hudson said in a PF, with the Swans and Cats I think it was, " I see it but I don't believe it". It is some of the most powerful, perfect, team football I have ever seen and in a GF to boot. It just brings tears to the eyes of the long suffering Dees fans, well mine at least.

Well actually that's not true. He used his hands to climb and push him forward and away from the contest. It was a free clearly, but WE WON THE FLAG.

Will it be within 57 years?

I still think Brander is ok and would be handy for us.

Could be a handy Category B rookie.

Maybe a Hibbo retirement and a Hore delisting.

Hore and Declase unsigned. Could be another pick coming.

Agree. IF we want him and he goes to another club, the hope is that it is an interstate one.

I had it explained that slow play chip kick sides like the Cats, will have higher disposal efficiency , while our style of play leads to less disposal efficiency. What that means is that certain stats don’t affect winning as much as other ones.

And if he is p-ssed off with the Giants I am sure he will try his hardest next season.

I think it is being done to give a reference point, to allow a reasoned guess as to what actual pick might eventuate from it.

If I was the Giants I would be grabbing that. I don’t think Hill is that good. Very inconsistent and seen him jib a few contests. Not sure he has a great tank either. Maybe they are waiting for the last hour.

Agree. That's what I said. Cats nevertheless want more than just 22.

Pick 22 is not being shafted for a player you don't play.

This wouldn't have helped McCartney's attitude either. The Giants will receive Pick 11 and a 2018 third round selection from the Bombers, while Essendon receive Smith, Pick 24 and GWS' 2018 second round pick. Essendon's new draft selections will prove vital in securing the services of Jake Stringer and Adam Saad who have both nominated the Bombers as their preferred destination club.

Ash, hope you are well, long time no speak. As to the bit I quoted, who do you think is responsible for McCartney's attitude towards Dodoro and Essendon?

Who would you have suggested we get instead and how would we have got that player, remembering that Dunstan is a FA? I will stick with my view that it is "great recruiting", to get an experienced midfielder, who is better than all of the mids we have outside of the GF 23, for nothing.

You obviously missed the words after "better" which were "atm." I have no doubt Sparrow and JJ will be "better" than Dunstan at some point in the future.

Apparently their list managers have been having long lunches with Dodoro and he has rubbed off on them. According to Sam Edmund, Clark and List Manager Wells at Geelong just had a heated phone conversation and in the end Clark hung up on him. It is really rich to demand pick 19 for a player you don't play in your side most weeks, after several years with your club and especially as you have been offered pick 22. Some clubs are creating trouble for themselves in this trade period. I note that our policy has been to pay a fair price to get a deal done, as it will come back to help next time. Some clubs are creating trading enemies over their "must win every trade" philosophy. Players and managers are watching this happen with great interest.

The way I look at the Dunstan pick up is, who would be the next mid into the side, after the 23 in the GF. I can't think of anyone of note and Dunstan is arguably better atm than Sparrow and JJ, who we all rate and who were in the 23. Additionally he came as a FA, costing us no picks. That is great recruiting.

We certainly need another ruck.

I seem to be on my own on recruiting Brander, who we would get for basically nothing. He would come at a low salary and for probably as low a pick as there is. His manager is suggesting he might become a DFA and that is a free swing. Seems like the other clubs don't rate him. I would rather him than M. Brown or Baker for that matter but that bird has flown.

Pies did well getting Lipinski for 43. Wonder why the Dogs agreed to that.