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Kobe Farmer’s 2020 WAFL Colts stats - nothing spectacular which might explain the silence from both Melbourne and Fremantle as well as his presence here. My guess is that he might be offered a place within the system - perhaps at Casey - with a view to earning a place on the rookie list somewhere down the track.

I'm surprised that the AFL haven't issued a list of eligible father/son nominees and their selected clubs. Does it mean there are none in the entire draft? [Luke Edwards - Adelaide was apparently told by them that he would not be selected as a father/son]

Today was the day for lodgement of the Final Draft Nomination Form and AFL Father-Son Bidding Nominations with the AFL. Therefore, if he’s coming aboard with us, we should know by tomorrow.

It’s not so much that the Magpies aren’t interested in McInnes but rather, that they would like to pick him up cheaply without having to forgo either of their first two picks. If they don’t trade any further picks, they would have to be hoping that nobody bids for McInnes early enough for them to be forced to respond by using 14 or 16. Their problem is that it’s possibly line ball as to whether that will happen. I’m told that he impressed some judges at the recent training session for Victorian draft hopefuls. Collingwood can therefore be expected to possibly involve themselves in some further trading on draft night.

It’s official. The AFL will have one mid-season rookie draft in 2021.

More pick trading. The GWS Giants trade picks 29 and 52 to the Western Bulldogs for their selection number 26.

The mock draft you’re referring to was done on this week’s AFL Road to the Draft podcast. The aim was to select players for each club aligning to their list needs. Here’s how it panned out - 1. Adelaide Riley Thilthorpe 2. Western Bulldogs Jamara Ugle-Hagan * 3. North Logan McDonald 4. Sydney Elijah Hollands 5. Hawthorn Denver Granger Baras 6. Gold Coast Archie Perkins 7. Essendon Will Phillips 8. Essendon Oliver Henry 9. Sydney Braeden Campbell * 10. Port Adelaide Lachie Jones * 11. Essendon Nik Cox 12. Adelaide Finlay Macrae 13. GWS Giants Zach Reid 14. North Melbourne Heath Chapman 15. Fremantle Tanner Bruhn 16. GWS Giants Tom Powell 17. Collingwood Brayden Cook 18. Sydney Errol Gulden * 19. GWS Giants Sam Berry 20. Collingwood Caleb Poulter 21. Richmond Nathan O’Driscoll 22. Collingwood Reef McInnes 23. Melbourne Jack Carroll 24. Melbourne Connor Stone 25. GWS Giants Bailey Laurie 26. St Kilda Jake Bowey * matched academy bids LISTEN: First-round mock draft based on club needs

INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER (After second list lodgement) ROUND ONE 1. Adelaide 2. North Melbourne 3. Sydney 4. Hawthorn 5. Gold Coast 6.Essendon 7. Essendon 8. Essendon 9. Adelaide 10. Greater Western Sydney 11. North Melbourne 12. Fremantle 13. Greater Western Sydney 14. Collingwood 15. Greater Western Sydney 16. Collingwood 17. Richmond 18. Melbourne 19. Melbourne 20. Greater Western Sydney 21. St. Kilda ROUND TWO 22. Adelaide 23. Adelaide 24. Hawthorn 25. Brisbane 26. Western Bulldogs 27. Gold Coast Suns 28. Melbourne 29. Greater Western Sydney 30. North Melbourne 31. Carlton 32. Fremantle 33. Western Bulldogs 34. Sydney 35. Port Adelaide 36. Richmond 37. Sydney 38. Carlton 39. North Melbourne 40. Adelaide ROUND THREE 41. Western Bulldogs 42. Western Bulldogs 43. Sydney 44. Essendon 45. Hawthorn 46. Hawthorn 47. Port Adelaide 48. Sydney 49. Hawthorn 50. Melbourne 51. Geelong 52. Greater Western Sydney 53. Brisbane 54. Western Bulldogs 55. Fremantle 56. Fremantle 57. Port Adelaide 58. Brisbane 59. Port Adelaide 60. Sydney 61. Richmond ROUND FOUR 62. West Coast 63. Fremantle 64. St Kilda 65. Collingwood 66. Brisbane 67. St Kilda 68. Brisbane 69. Brisbane 70. Collingwood 71. North Melbourne 72. Hawthorn 73. Port Adelaide 74. St Kilda 75. Collingwood 76. Gold Coast Suns 77. Essendon 78. Carlton 79. Richmond ROUND FIVE 80. Adelaide 81. North Melbourne 82. Sydney 83. Hawthorn 84. Gold Coast 85. Essendon 86. West Coast 87. Essendon 88. Greater Western Sydney 89. Melbourne 90. Western Bulldogs 91. West Coast 92. Collingwood 93. St Kilda 94. Brisbane 95. Port Adelaide 96. Geelong 97. Richmond

Thanks to both Gawndog98 and Goodoil for your bravery in committing to a phantom draft. I like Goodoil’s lateral thinking on the potential pick trades. The one for Collingwood is particularly interesting - I think the way the Reef McInnes pick plays out is going to be an interesting aspect of the draft. The Pies need a lifter and getting Elijah Hollands along with McInnes could be an important boost to their stocks and morale at the moment. I have a bit of a tradition of my own at this time in the lead up to the draft where I pick a player of interest* and I’m going for Jake Bowey at pick 18 or 19. In some respects, I’m going against my grain because I think we have enough undersize players at the club already (nothing against Kozzy or Charlie but I have a view that there’s a limit to the number of smalls you can have on a list and I think we’re about there). I usually try to get to a few NAB Cup games and like to make it for the finals. I have an association with the Sandy Dragons going back to the start of the competition and saw one or two of their games from last year. I’ve also seen plenty of vision of Bowey as an underager and I think he would be one of the draft’s bargains if we can secure him at 18/19. Despite his 175cm stature, he ticks all of the boxes you need for a small forward. Persistent attack on the footy, excellent disposal and consistency. He could just about be right to go from the start and can see him hitting Ben Brown on the chest. With Kozzy and Bowey at the big forward’s feet, the pressure on opposition defenders is going to be enormous. I think the comparison with Shai Bolton is not out of order and Bowey might also find himself playing in the midfield. * the first time I tried this exercise at draft time, I picked out Nathan Jones and a year later I went for Chip Frawley but I haven’t picked a Demon since.

AFL Draft Central’s 2020 AFL Draft Preview: Melbourne Demons. An interesting look at the forthcoming draft from Melbourne’s perspective. I think many of us have reached conclusions as to the road our recruiters take. As spirit of Norm says, “time will tell”.

I’ve attended many VAFA B and C section games in recent seasons (none in 2020). A number of clubs in those competitions rely on canteen sales, raffles and post game bar sales. If these facilities are limited/reduced next year because of ongoing restrictions/precautions relating to Covid19, many of those clubs will struggle. More so, clubs in lower divisions. Junior clubs are also doing it hard. The game depends on players coming up through community grass roots footy. There are tough times ahead.

Must be confusing for Treloar. On Mondays and Wednesdays he trains at Lexus Stadium (or whatever they’re calling it this week) and on Tuesdays and Thursdays he has to go to Whitten Oval.

Debunking the myths that stand in the way of a Tassie side Why a Tasmanian AFL team is more than a pipedream

I didn’t notice until I saw this article that James Jordan has been put on the rookie list. This appears to have implications as to the club’s list size and the number of players it can select at the draft. With Jordan now on the rookie list, the scenario is - • 33 players on the Primary List (max 38) • 4 on the Rookie A List (maximum 6) • 1 on the Rookie B List (max 2) AFL list changes 2020: Every club’s ins and outs after first list lodgement These are the changes ~ MELBOURNE INS: Ben Brown (Trade) Jay Lockhart (Promoted rookie) OUTS: Harley Bennell (Not retained) Kyle Dunkley (Not retained) Mitchell Hannan (Trade) James Jordan (*Delisted, moving to rookie list) Kade Kolodjashnij (Retired) Oscar McDonald (Delisted) Aaron Nietschke (*Delisted, moving to rookie list ) Braydon Preuss (Trade) Corey Wagner (Not retained) Joshua Wagner (Delisted)

Names of some players who could be in red and blue soon - KEVIN SHEEHAN'S TOP 40 AFL DRAFT PROSPECTS

Somewhat intrigued so I checked up what the coach of the SA Under 18s said about him. ”He’s a gun and an unbelievable character. He’s too good not to be at an AFL club next year. When he’s fit he’s as good as Thilthorpe and Jones.” - SA under-18 coach Tony Bamford A player with 2 ACLs before he turns 18 is something of a risk but the upside appears enormous. Who dares wins!

So, essentially - * 3 picks in the national draft * 1 rookie selection and * if KK is put on the long term injury list then the club can list a player as a Pre-Season Supplemental Selection. This is for players who can be added to our summer training squad from 6 January, 2021.

Appears that all now signed up including Toby Bedford. We’re one big happy family. Off-Season Central: Melbourne release raft of contract news

Good question. I think that Cat B’s can be nominated to remain as a rookie for a third season and contracted at that time. Aaron Neitzke is also not contracted but can be drafted in the rookie draft and then contracted.

The Cleary article indicates that Toby Bedford is our only uncontracted player and that a few others who the club has yet to confirm, have in fact signed new contracts.

This article on who gets an AFL lifeline states that “Melbourne has re-signed a number of players it is yet to make public including Mitch Brown, Jay Lockhart, Kade Chandler and James Jordon,” and suggests that Toby Bedford is our only player currently in limbo.

The pundits are saying that about 50 players will be selected in the national draft on December 9. This item from AFL Draft Central should have most, if not all, of them covered. The Draft Pool

The rules for the second tier competition are absurd. Apart from anything else, they should be the same as the AFL for the benefit of players who go up and down between the competitions.

Would help if someone could come up with some vision of him playing so we could work it out ourselves. Anybody?

So am I correct in saying that Bedford, Jordan, Chandler (® A), Lockhart (® A) and Bradtke (® B) are uncontracted at present. What is the list lodgement cut off day for them to be contracted? Today or next Friday?