Fromgotowoewodin
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Melbourne not at Legends event?
Couldnât agree more, 2024 has been a shambles so far and clearly we all want things to improve but the drama on here from some is way over the top. Club is profitable, memberships are good, crowds have been good (though might drop off a bit if we donât get back on track), AFL is looking after us on fixtures, stable board, management, coaching group. Weâve still got some all time greats of the club running around out there. Maybe it wonât get better this year but if it doesnât weâll be back next year. Itâs not a bin fire, the new game plan either isnât working or they havenât got it working yet and weâre missing some key pieces but because weâre suddenly out of the 8 for a few weeks itâs all âboo-hoo weâre irrelevant, pies supporters say mean things to me, my feelings are hurt so someone needs to be firedâ. A few on here need to grow up.
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Cale Morton
youâd be at 200 pages before you got past technicolor yawns and darts on the way to training
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Maynard unscathed
Not against HARD decisions, Iâm just against unnecessary panic leading to poor decisions. Yardsticks of the competition, Swans (two coaches since 2002), Cats (two coaches since 2000). Underachieving panic merchants, Blues (8 coaches since 2001, many of them wouldâve sacked Voss mid-year last year if they couldâve too), Bombers (6 coaches since 2008, plus some interims). Who do we want to be? Perennial finalists or panicked yo-yos? P.s. Seems you find typing HARD⊠to do, maybe try⊠using⊠both hands.
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PREGAME: Rd 15 vs North Melbourne
Textbook fishing from Ralph, wants her and Pert to start jumping at shadows so they can really kick off the media frenzy. The board donât report to Ralph, or Cornes, or Gerard - those guys just want drama to fill their radio slots and newspaper columns. No good outcome for the board to start making big calls âwe fully support Goody and the boysâ = weâre going to sack Goody, âwe want the team to start playing betterâ = weâre going to sack Goody, âwe have no comment to makeâ = weâre going to sack Goodyâ. Better to just stay quiet and let the footy department get on with it.
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Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"
Thrilled to be a part of your performance art piece
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Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"
Thank you for that extremely well thought out and measured response to something that I did not write anywhere in that post
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Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"
I do get it. Thereâs a lot of people on here scared that weâre falling back to the dark times of winning twice a year and racking up wooden spoons and theyâre coping with that fear by getting in first and weeping and moaning about how itâs all falling apart so they can psychologically protect themselves if it does come true, and also pat themselves on the back and say they called it before anyone else, and called it harder than anyone else. Itâs fine, do what you need to do. But stop lapping up every half arsed article knocked out in their sleep by journos and ex-players and ex-coaches and whatnot as if itâs wisdom from the gods. Weâre not playing well, no [censored]. Weâve got some issues off field, no [censored]. Good clubs work through those issues and tough times and make changes and get better. [censored] clubs panic and sack everyone and set the whole place on fire. Weâve previously been the latter, I think itâs time we were the former - but some on here want the flames cos then they donât have to fear being disappointed.
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Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"
You do a bit yeah..
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Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"
See above. Heâs added zero, just recycled and said here is why Melbourne is bad now and heâs pretending the signs were there all along despite picking us to finish 5th when all those same signs were apparently there. Convenient and on trend yes, insightful no. also âheâs not writing this as a journalistâ? Heâs paid to pump out columns and thatâs what heâs doing, itâs not a charity gig.
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Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"
If youâre going to question my intelligence try not to misspell 2 out of your first 6 words but hey. The connection, which was quite clear, is that you were accusing others of not addressing Malthouseâs points and instead mocking him, and when someone else made another quite clear point about Malthouse making up stories to fit the facts you chose to mock them rather than address the point. Simples when you think about it.
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Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"
Pot, kettle?
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Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"
He 100% made that up cos he wanted to give May a backhander
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Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"
Point by point? Why? We read it all in February, and January, and December.. nothing new there. Easy to write it now and say the warning signs were there, but he tipped us for 5th preseason so where was Nostradamick then? https://archive.md/xpua8 Fine, heâs kicking us while weâre down, good luck to him but letâs not pretend heâs got any great insight here.
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Cale Morton
Surely a job for Demonblog publishing.. it just struck me how if youâd asked 1000 people in 2010 which of Max & Scully would be the 6x all Australian, 2x B&F winner, premiership-winning captain of an AFL club and which one would be none of those things approximately 0 of those people wouldâve picked Max. Absolutely absurd how things turned around.
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Maynard unscathed
Maybe our supporters need to harden up. We won a flag, weâve been in the top 4 for 3 years straight, now we play bad for 6 weeks and everyone is crying into their pillows. [censored]. No pies supporter is ever going to say nice things about us, accept it, tell them to FO and move on with your life. Weâre not going well, need to fix some things and play better. No need to curl up into the foetal position and cry.
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Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"
Thanks Mick for rehashing all the greatest hits. Zero insight, just getting on the bandwagon..
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Gerard Whateley on Petracca incident
Gerard loves when thereâs a high horse he can climb on. No one owes him an explanation, the AFL has reviewed it and found no issues, Trac and his family need to be satisfied heâs been looked after and everyone else can GAGF. Talk of installing a CT scanner at the G is rubbish, the epworth is literally across the road. Half a mil plus for a machine, plus operators, plus software, plus to have a CT they need to inject contrast dye and so forth - if a scan is needed get them to hospital which is what happened.
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Cale Morton
Good listen. I thought Gibby was going to ask him point blank if it was true that Gawn spewed on Tom Scully in China but they didnât go into a lot of detail on that front..
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Maynard unscathed
https://omny.fm/shows/3aw-is-football/alan-richardson-lifts-lid-on-whether-theyll-target#description He said it on radio, listening back (about 7:40 onwards in the clip) the coaches asked the leadership group if they thought it was going to be an issue that players would go too hard at Maynard and not focus on the game, leaders said it wasnât. He said the focus in the week before the game was internal, not on the pies or Maynard.
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Maynard unscathed
Adventurous to call a bloke that came back on the field with 4 broken ribs and a ruptured spleen âweak asâ I wouldâve thought. I think people need to acknowledge that itâs pretty clear the players donât view Maynard the same way demonlanders view him. Theyâre all professionals, theyâve played together and against each other since they were kids - Maynardâs brother played with us for a few years, theyâll know each other pretty well. If they held a grudge they wouldâve let him know so itâs pretty clear in my view that there arenât any hard feelings.
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Dees Down But Not Out
Therapeutic listening from Robbo and the Deebrief: Makes a lot of sense talking about our poor decision making and such lately. A bit of nostalgia in there too.
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Maynard unscathed
Distance or financial circumstances are both understandable from my point of view, I just thought it was a bit rich to be potting 2 players (one of whom is a 4x B&F winner) and stating they were the reason you werenât going to be a member anymore.. when youâre not actually a member. Say youâre angry, say youâre disappointed - fine. But donât pretend they killed your membership.
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Dees Down But Not Out
That doesnât line up with the narrative that we need to sack the coach, all the assistants, everyone on the board and trade or delist 20 players so canât be accurate! It obviously hasnât gone to plan this year on a number of fronts, and Trac going out for an extended period or even the season makes it hard to see us challenging for a flag but I donât think weâre dead yet. Max, May, TMac and Brown are the only ones pushing retirement. Youâd think the first 2 can at least go one more year. The rest have plenty left, and we had 9 players 23yo or younger in the 22 on Monday. We were a full year younger on average than the pies. We can still play finals this year, and even if we donât I reckon the window is still open next year. edit: Iâd also add that the swans played in a GF in 2022, fell to 8th last year and are now favs for the flag. Lions were ~ a goal away from being premiers and are currently 13th. The consistent high level weâve been at the past 3 years is unusual, and one blip of a year doesnât mean itâs all over.
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Time for a ChangeâŠ.Donât wait another 2 yearsâŠ
Average years in the job for the winning premiership coach since 2000 is 6 years. Some shorter ones, Scott and Longmire walked into flag ready teams, McRae probably got there ahead of schedule but the average is the average.. so weâd be looking at 6 years all going well (5.5 if you exclude Sheeds in 2000)
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PREGAME: Rd 15 vs North Melbourne
B: McVee May Rivers HB: Salem McDonald Lever C: Langdon Oliver Windsor HF: Pickett Fritsch Petty F: Chandler Van Rooyen Neal-Bullen Foll: Gawn Viney Sparrow I/C: Howes Turner Bowey Woewodin Sub K Brown In Lever, Woewodin, K Brown Out: Petracca, Billings, Laurie Billings & Laurie donât get enough of it and donât use it well enough to compensate for being small. If youâre a little tacker like Laurie you need to be a Bowey or Caleb Daniel level user and he isnât. Billings is slightly bigger but doesnât compete physically and doesnât use it well enough at the moment. Potentially Howes or Turner out for Tomlinson if we need another bigger body but you wouldnât think we do if Lever gets up.