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No, I don't think we screw around with players' psyche like that. If he's been told he's required then that's what it is.

Lever is missing as discussed and so is Langdon. Yes he had a below par year and needs to get back to his best but he's still in the best 22. You've got too many forwards - 9 if you're playing Petracca forward and counting Chol as fwd-ruck.

Looking at our combined finals score of 16.28 to 20.13, it's interesting to look at the overall season defensive accuracy, goals minus behinds, results. Only Collingwood (a stand-out -14), St.Kilda (-2) and GWS (-2) were able to force opponents into the red. Carlton was next best with (+4) https://finalsiren.com/AFLLadder.asp Our two opponents were in the top 4 for this measure. St.Kilda wasn't able to replicate this in their final where GWS kicked 15.11. But GWS were able to do it holding St.Kilda to 11.11 and then Port to 9.16 while kicking 13.15. Carlton held Sydney to 9.14 while kicking 11.8. In the other final so far both teams were in the black Brisbane 18.9 vs Port 11.9. There looks to be a trend for teams able to create inaccuracy. But it seemed like we had enough gettable chances in both matches so maybe it's a coincidence. The other data point that indicates it's meaningful is that 18th West Coast (+77) and 16th Hawthorn (+76) lead the way by a long margin in giving up goals instead of behinds. However North 17th (+48) bucks the trend by coming in somewhere midtable and better than Brisbane at (+49). But hell if it was universally the effective indicator I'd be a genius and we can close the thread ... but alas! BTW, we're on the good side of the mean at (+20).

Has he asked for a trade to Adelaide?

How about some elite decision makers in F50? 16.28 in the two finals is not a midfield problem.

Okey-dokey then

AFAIK his "complaining" came about because he was instructed to run through hamstring awareness and tore it. I can see how that would be annoying.

Small in the emergencies too so their sub will be a small. [2] Paddy Dow,[14] Oliver Hollands,[25] Zac Fisher,[38] Sam Durdin

Last week we had 6 marking talls - 4 forward: TMac, JVR, Smith and Fritsch and 2 back Lever and May. This week we still have 6 but it's more conventional 3 forward: TMac, Smith and Fritsch and 3 back Tomlinson, Lever and May. It will be very interesting to see who we go with as sub - last week it was another small in Laurie, wonder if we'll go bigger this week?

Look I think it's mainly to gaslight you - and it's working, you've never posted anything remotely positive.

Or alternatively ... He can win the ball, has a nice turn of pace, has good vision, lightning quick hands, can hit a target like Salem, a willing tackler. Probably a late 2nd or 3rd rounder.

I was scheduled to have a hip replacement operation two weeks after I went to the AFL match at Alice Springs Melbourne vs GWS - I had booked the trip when the fixture came out in December before my hip broke and was determined to go. I bought a folding chair at Alice Springs K-Mart before the match to sit on with the intention of donating it to the locals post-match. I wasn't allowed to bring it into the venue. I was going to be forced to stand all match, in the freezing rain, until I insisted that it was unacceptable and the officials provided me with a plastic chair to sit on. We lost. But overall, despite the trials and tribulations, it was a very memorable and worthwhile experience.

I think at least Ratugolea is worth a 2nd rounder. Agree Sweet is not going to be an expensive trade. Port currently have 37, 43, 72 and 90 and they do have to make some picks. That set is not going to get it done. Yes, they can use their 2024 first to get some collateral.

Ratugolea, Zerk-Thatcher and Sweet all to Port and no 2023 first rounder, going to be a challenge. I wonder if as rumoured we are interested in Xavier Duursma that we could shake him loose to provide Port with trade collateral - OOC end of 2024.

As it should be, but the AFL is not fixing the match results.

So for a percentage of incremental merchandise sales the AFL is going to engineer a Carlton-Collingwood GF? OK, all I can say is it must be hard going if that's your model of reality.

Seriously? Who would you have had Grundy in for in the QF. As it turned out we lost a key mid in Brayshaw early and his replacement Laurie was unable to fill the breach. It would have been even worse if Grundy was the sub. And if he'd been in the 22 that would have further hindered our run - Max carried the ruck just fine. Grundy is a consideration this week for JVR. But would have hurt more than helped last week.

Nice tin foil hat Clint. Whether Carlton or Melbourne win the PF in Brisbane and the GF will be sell outs. There's no extra revenue in a Carlton flag.

I think Timmy said his dad and his uncle had been very busy because they to go around to Mr.Gleeson's place and show him how to light the fire in case it was needed. They had to stop at the petrol station on the way. Mr. Gleeson told them the fire wouldn't be needed.

I have a bequest of $5,000,000 ready for them to collect if they only provide their bank details and login ...

I've been following football for over 60 years, Tony. I can't ever recall a "smother" where this has happened, can anyone else? 60 seasons, more than 10,000 matches, more than 1 million minutes of football. It really is a freak accident or something else ...

Agree Sue, that is ample time. A cricket fast bowler can bowl at 150km/hr that's more than 40m/sec. The cricket pitch is half that long so the ball travels the distance in less than half a second and expert athletes are able to play the ball. Even most tail enders can.

Agree and we need extra class at ground level. Reid would be great but it might need to be Watson with our picks.

Max said himself on Gus and Gawny that he won't make 250 games. There's an understudy role there but not for a 29yo like Grundy.

McRae, Moore, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Quaynor, the Daicos brothers - I was almost starting to warm to Collingwood - but the whole Thursday night experience snapped me back to reality.