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Even with Jake Spencer out, Max King is in the Development League - not a good sign for him.

We've got an incredibly young line-up and it will be very difficult to win. I know they keep winning but that is a patchy Hawthorn side IMO. HAWTHORNB Taylor Duryea, James Frawley, Ben StrattonHB Shaun Burgoyne, Josh Gibson, Grant BirchallC Isaac Smith, Sam Mitchell, Bradley HillHF Luke Breust, Jack Gunston, Will LangfordF Tim O'Brien, Ben McEvoy, Cyril RioliFOLL Jonathon Ceglar, Jordan Lewis, Luke HodgeI/C Kaiden Brand, Brendan Whitecross, Jonathan O'Rourke, James SicilyEMG Blake Hardwick, Kurt Heatherley, Dallas Willsmore Take out Burgoyne, Gibson, Mitchell and Hodge who are very near retirement and Lewis is 31 at the start of next year (only 6 months younger that Bernie) Add a couple of injuries to remaining key players and that's a pretty ordinary line-up. HAWTHORN Player Injury Estimated Return Paul Puopolo Hip Test Jarryd Roughead* Illness Season Ryan Schoenmakers Groin 1 week Liam Shiels Hamstring Test Matt Spangher Hamstring 1 week There's a couple of handy players currently injured but it will be interesting when they have to be the front liners. It seems a long-shot for Roughy to get back, he's 30 next year.

So he didn't say he'll move if " ... he is offered more money, he thinks another club has a better shot at a premiership, he likes the coaching setup at another club better or has links with the coaches."

Bat, ball and going home?

Large backtrack on your previous post that he would have come to MFC if we could have got the deal done with Adelaide.

The problem posters have with GNF, oncluding me, is the language used. "Confirmed" - with language like that you can't just be right some of the time.

What do you think he's going to cost?

I'm a Weideman fan but I don't think he's ready for AFL, especially not against Hawthorn. Maybe he could get a taste so he knows what he's up for, that's the only purpose that would be served.

That's just not going to get it done and is equally as obstructive to good trading as Dodoro's reputation. 2017 2nd round will hopefully be around 30ish, that's unrealistic. 2017 1st round (say 12ish) for Hibberd and Essendons 2016 2nd round (which is currently 19) would be a very good deal for us, no need for them to add their 2017 2nd.

The Weed needs to build body mass and also work on his endurance, not necessarily compatible goals so there's a challenge ahead in the next few years. He doesn't have exceptional pace, endurance or ground ball skills. If he's going to make it it will be because he can create a genuine marking contest - take contested marks and draw defenders to commit to him in the air. I've seen him a few times and he has an appetite for the aerial contest and he has taken some very nice contested marks deep in the forward line and up the ground. Yes, he's skinny, can't hold his position against mature bodies yet and can't rag-doll Rance. But I've seen enough to feel that he has the marking attributes to make it in this area. Your analysis boils down to "he's skinny". BTW, I don't think he's ready for AFL yet.

I think Pav played well on ball - I haven't seen that in the Weed. I think Liam Hulett is Pav The Weed is the GC Tom Lynch

I agree with that, but against St.Kilda he also got run down twice. I think he might have swung the pendulum a bit too far the other way and is rushing. He'll find the right medium.

I think he'll be too expensive, both trade-wise and $s. He's a great player but I'd pass.

It was a massively frustrating game. But coming up to 10,000 metres we killed them on the outside which is a completely different story from the Essendon debacle. Our decision making and skill execution forward of the centre was absolutely shocking, if this had been on then we would have won easily. I think the other problem we had yesterday was our total inability to convert Max's dominance on the inside. I think we have a structural problem there, the opposition acknowledges we're going to get first hands on it and tackles immediately, it's what happens after this first possession that's crucial. Either another stoppage, rinse and repeat, or the ball comes out and we don't have an advantage. I've seen us running a 7th player off the back of the square at the centre bounces, presumably to provide an outlet, but I've only ever seen that player actually get involved in the play once. Some other plan is required maybe a different mix at the bounce instead of 3 insiders.

Bernie is down but against Hawthorn last time it was his, Tyson's and Jones' hardness at the contest that set up our competitive performance and I expect him to lift this week. I think the Hawks were genuinely surprised how hard we went. I'd like to find a spot for BenKen, he smashes in and I think that's going to be important. Isaac Smith beat us on the outside last time, it would be good to match up defensively against him.

The Weed is a good contested mark, that's never been a part of Jack Watts game. I don't see them as similar players. He's a better kick than Nick Riewoldt but there's no evidence that he's got Riewoldt's incredible endurance, if he turned out to be half the player Riewoldt is I'd be rapt.

Over the next 5 seasons he'll be 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 - he's got at least 5 years left, most of them still in his prime.

Tom McDonald had ONE mis-kick that went to 50:50. Supporters are watching and willing him to turn it over. He started some great chains yesterday, the pity was our decision making and execution further up the ground were off. Oscar McDonald took some nice contested marks early. He's got some way to go but he's developing. Tom Lynch is a tremendous player.

Richmond would want 2 first rounders for him and that's realistic.

Rhythm guitarist like a tagger. Keef the Ryan Crowley of guitar

There's Hendrix. Then it comes down to personal taste e.g. Page, Clapton, Prince. Then some other long group like Jeff Beck, Slash, Van Halen, too many to mention. The only Stones player anywhere near this 3rd group is Mick Taylor. Keith Richard is a genius composer and the Stones catalogue is unsurpassed, but he's an odinary guitarist. He's never even been the best player in the Stones.

And it shows. Great composer, ordinary player.

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