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Brian Wilson was absolutely incredible for one year.

Me too. Is superior to Tyson.

in other games looks like Pyke and Bucks had completely different views in their match ... ADELAIDE v COLLINGWOOD5 Brad Crouch (Adel)5 Tom Lynch (Adel)4 Rory Sloane (Adel)4 Daniel Talia (Adel)3 Ricky Henderson (Adel)3 Jarryd Lyons (Adel)2 Ben Sinclair (Coll)2 Adam Treloar (Coll)1 Taylor Adams (Coll)1 Brodie Grundy (Coll)

AFLCA votes interesting: ST KILDA v MELBOURNE10 Tom Hickey (StK)8 Tim Membrey (StK)6 Jack Viney (Melb)2 Sean Dempster (StK)2 Jack Newnes (StK)1 Jarryn Geary (StK)1 Leigh Montagna (StK)

Like Boak and Mundy?

Roos has been tremendous for the club as has Bernie Vince. But the proposition in the OP is like "Is Bernie Vince our best player since Robbie?"

Is Macca the Dogs greatest coach since Charlie Sutton?

Braysure is making the most sense in this thread. Hibbert won't be coming to us for nothing, there'll be a trade. Two year ban of Essendon or all players forced to other clubs is the fantasyland.

EFA

100% There are always injuries, players returning from injury and players out of form. "Best 22" is a useless concept. There's a squad of about 30 players who all make useful contributions through the year. As an aside, that's why I think just giving the premiership medals to just the 22 on GF day is flawed.

Clearly you're not Einstein

If we're set on the Hibberd deal we could trade next years 1st (which should be in double figures) for Essendon's 2nd this year which will be 19. I believe they did Carlisle to the Saints for similar structure deal.

FWIW do you believe someone without much EQ can develop some? Jack Grimes is a true stalwart of MFC who has been through the hard-times. He's battled strongly and consistently this year and legitimately won his place in the team and played well in a good team win. And yet we have several "analysts" very keen to jump in this thread and immediately write his epitaph. I say just enjoy the ride. Vive le Grimes!

The actual quote VP responded to was " I was a critic. I gave the kid hell. "

or we declare him cooked.

Christine from Camberwell?

On that note, dredging up players limitations from 3-4 years ago is meaningless. Matt Jones, Grimes and Trengove have been through re-education, role changes and injury recovery and deserve to be assessed on their output capability today, not some deficiency from 2012 or 13. IMO, the only evidence that's relevant is their games in 2016 and, aside from his work at Casey which may or may not translate to AFL, it's one good game by Grimes so far.

Going from dreading playing them, I'm looking forward to it nowadays. It's only a matter of time.

Unlikely to leave WA unless he can bring his hairdresser and I don't think Priddis will allow that to happen.

Where's that defender now when we need him most?

MELBOURNE V FREMANTLE 9 Jack Watts (Melb)7 Max Gawn (Melb)7 Jesse Hogan (Melb)5 Jack Viney (Melb)2 Tom McDonald (Melb)

Yes and it was quite frankly a ridiculous diversion. I said that: " We've got Melksham, Salem, Wagner, White and Hunt all capable at HB. "Hibberd will free them to move to the midfield" yeah maybe but we've got N.Jones, Vince, .." and you raised weaknesses in N.Jones game. Salem and Hunt hopefully do have a future in our midfield but there's no way they'll be pushing N.Jones out of it to Casey. He's not a perfect footballer but he'd be in the starting 18 at every club and in the starting centre square 4 at many. And yes I'd prefer N.Jones to Prestia or O'Meara.

Sounds like we're very keen on Hibberd and good judges rate him. Good players will make us better but I still don't see his role as a recruiting priority. We've got Melksham, Salem, Wagner, White and Hunt all capable at HB. "Hibberd will free them to move to the midfield" yeah maybe but we've got N.Jones, Vince, Viney, Tyson, Brayshaw, Petracca, Oliver and Stretch there already - who are they pushing out? Then there's VDB and Harmes. I haven't even bothered to include Lumumba, Trengove, Grimes, M.Jones and Bugg but some are very useful depth at a minimum. Hurley on the other hand ...

No, I don't really believe you are sorry. Mean-spirited post of the year, congratulations! (I don't really mean congratulations)

7.75?