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Without knowing the numbers it would be very difficult to recall the playing list.

MFC fans: "Our player contracts are too long" "Our player contracts are too short"

Oldest 20 B Tomlinson May Lockhart HB Hibberd M.Brown Salem C Langdon Petracca Harmes R Gawn Brayshaw Viney HF AVB TMac ANB F Melksham B.Brown Hunt I Jones Jetta versus Youngest 21: B Smith Petty Hore HB Nietschke Lever Rivers C Baker Oliver Rosman R Jackson Sparrow Jordon HF Fritsch Weid Spargo F Pickett Bradtke Bedford I Chandler Bowey Laurie

Don't be selfish now Kenty

Party-time for the Saints might be over: Play twice: Richmond, Geelong, Port Adelaide, West Coast, Sydney Play once away: Brisbane, GWS, Gold Coast Play a home game vs Adelaide in Cairns

If he has re-discovered some mobility it could work well, he's had the aerobic fitness in the past. When we're in attack, if Max is down the line on the Langdon wing, TMac's size and marking ability on the other wing prevents an outlet there and deters the switch. When we're coming out of defence, similarly - Max down the line on the Langdon wing or TMac down the other line provide separate avenues to marking targets or aerial contest killers. This was the hope I had for Tomlinson last year but it didn't work out.

Invited to train on with Carlton - it's not over until it's over ...

Agility is really good but he won't be able to side step his way out of trouble like that at AFL level. I like that he's willing to take the hit that's coming to make the play.

As posted in the 2020 Draft thread, Laurie had plenty of interest from other clubs around the pick we used: https://www.afl.com.au/news/533681/bids-bluffs-and-frantic-calls-inside-2020-s-first-round-draft-frenzy And we rated Bowey ahead of him.

looking at the end of the number reveal video, Rosman already has very broad shoulders and well developed lats. He looks like he's going to be a much bigger more powerful specimen than Isaac Smith when he fully develops.

See below for what I was trying to achieve ...

Rosman is 194cm and Smith is 188cm - that's a fair difference

21 and 28 are open I wonder if anyone will move up? Bradtke? He's #46 now? There's also a gap between Nev at 39, Lockhart at 41 and Smith at 44. I wonder if there is a #50 locker for Ben Brown?

How could anyone accurately rate the overall strength of next year's draft at this stage when everyone has been saying that this year's crop is underexposed? That goes double at least for next year's crop.

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We're going back to 20 minute quarters and a 22 game season - we'll clearly need more midfield rotations than 2020

We picked Bowey ahead of Laurie so we rated him ahead of Laurie. Therefore, ultimately the crux of your "shambles of a club" analysis relies on the idea that MFC rated Holmes higher than Laurie who Twomey, Balmer and Draft Central all had going to GWS at 18 well before our picks. Very keen to see your evidence of this if someone is going to get fired or sued off the back of it?

Twomey had us taking Carroll with our first pick even though we didn't even take him with our third, but yeah he knew exactly what was going on in the MFC recruiting department.

Thanks Leo - good info and an easier read than Ulysses.

Seriously, you're a very good poster but I hope you've re-considered this diatribe. There is absolutely no evidence that we rated Holmes ahead of Bowey and Laurie and the fact that our interest in Holmes (along with a number of other clubs) was in the media could easily have come from his family or his manager. We generally don't leak. The actual upshot was that Geelong were so freaked out by the possibility that we might take him with one of our picks that they paid a high price and traded their 2021 1st rounder for him. Note that we got both Bowey and Laurie for our 2021 1st rounder.

Spoke extremely well at the Members' info night. He's mature for his age and quite clearly articulate and intelligent. I was also impressed with the story that he worked incredibly hard on his fitness this year during Covid. If he can make it in football terms he will be a great asset to the club. Could well be a fan favourite!

I was booked to Perth in July this year for the Freo game. Hoping we get a match there somewhere around that time next year.

Only Gawn, Oliver and Salem are "must-sign" next year. Weideman probable.

Melk and Jones have done a lot of pre-season running at TBO.