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If not for his suspension, he would be playing in that backline, being a part of what is going on and you lot would be grooming your pincers talking about how good "the recruitment is 'round ere, these days..."

If Viney has a case to answer, that is where I would head for his defense - the guy stayed short - kept his knees bent and was trying to milk a reversal by going down like the proverbial. He should have retired last year.

Jeez, he looks good... Very exciting next few years for our midfield but more immediately - he is a big chance for GWS.

Yes, we used the new rules to our advantage and were ahead of the curve. That felt strange to type...

I don't see BBs posts. Mainly because of reasons like what you are referring to - getting paid a commensurate wage and playing in a winning team is accusing someone of being a mercenary? Good lord.

Well, there you go - the path to empathy; treat all posters you disagree with as you would your half-cut self...

But you can retract a scrubber. Scrubber - Yes. Simpleton - No. And while I look forward to the snide - isn't it easier to understand where mo64 is coming from when you were once there?

If we draft a Casey player in Feb onto the Rookie List - they will invariably play for Casey...

I don't see why you won't let those that administer those ethics do their jobs as the CAS has? It has taken an effing age but the players have reached their point of judgement and justice and they will pay their penance. I think it is naïve to think you can apply such universal and holistic punishments. Jake Melksham is hardly Lance Armstrong. And Jake will serve his punishment and the effects of that judgment and punishment will reverberate into the future and affect the rest of his life. I see no point to stick the knife in further.

I think your view is violently reasonable. I don't see the need to condemn so universally and in perpetuity. Life (and footy) is not that simple.

It's a shame whether you think he would have won it anyway or whether he 'cheated' someone else out of it. It's bad for footy, for careers, for the legacy of great players (who were great before these so called performance enhancers were used), and for the real culprits in the Essendon footy dept.

Well, in theory, we should have already 'scoured the country' for the best players to put on our list. I have no problems with the filling of spots through use of the Rookie List for PA, StK, Melb, and WB.

Nothing is ever black and white. I don't see the players as drug cheats - I see them as idiots who should be more sceptical and less trusting of sports administrators with needles and no explanations. Call Essendon what you like. But Watson will lose his Brownlow and that is a huge shame - you think I am going to see him as a 'drug cheat' and all the connotations of that label when his career is done? No effing way.

Well, this isn't great, and would we have done this deal if we knew he would miss a quarter of his contract? That's hard to say. I take solace in the issue being a broad one with Essendon, Port, and St Kilda dealing with more headaches than us... And just like we can't ignore that this is a massive setback for our player, it doesn't give a final determination on that trade either. How history sees this trade is a few years from being written definitively. Hasn't started well though...

I am glad he knows leading patterns - he is going to need that knowledge to be useful in a forwardline that is tailored to someone else. He won't just sit in the square.

Same are quite obsessed with number 4...

Dawes is a suitable bridge to Weideman. He will make him earn his games and allow him time to build his fitness, frame, confidence, and game.

Yes, Dom Tyson is a very good player. Viney is the best inside midfielder at the club.

Viney sprinted past Tyson in 2015 and eclipsed Tyson's 2014 with 12 CPs to 9, 6 Clearances to 5, and the general fact that if no-one gets between Viney and the footy. Put Tyson in a room with Viney and a Sherrin and he wouldn't see it.

If you say that three times Jack Viney appears and pulls your heart out...

Haha. Can I just say it was a pleasure to have the top 10 lined up and for once not see the smallest little fella in a Dees jumper... I am always going to be interested in what Darcy Parish might be but I am very excited by what Clayton Oliver is.

Looking forward to seeing him begin to show us what he can do in 2018!

Don't forget I agreed with you soon after...

The player we just 'had to pick' has been Parish and when there has been the player 'we had to pick' we have picked Watts, Morton, Scully, and Toumpas... I have developed this affliction to ask 'who is the better player taken at 15 or 20. Maybe Clayton Oliver is that better player usually taken later?