Colm

This would be an awesome outcome imo. Let him pay it himself. Paying over that sort of cash might make him think twice about it in the future. missing games doesn’t seem to work. He had a late bump late in the game to that could have cost us a shot on goal as well.

Where’s Goody’s presser? Waiting up for it and fox never showed it.

Had a look at the odds for the Coleman pre game. Fritter was paying 34-1 and only a goal behind the lead. Should have snapped it up.

Agreed. I don’t think we have anything to complain about. If anything I think our draw this year is outstanding. 5 day break is a pain in the bum but having both games as away games in the one city eases it. Also we have an extra days break for the game next week and the lions are away from home on consecutive weeks in different cities. To top it of when then get a 2 week bye afterwards which I think is probably the best time to have our first bye. Gives us an advantage over all other clubs bar Richmond.

I also thought the Crows would be moving up the ladder this year, they were hard done by to not reach the finals and I felt they were one of the fittest teams at the end of the home and away. Think had they made finals they may have won one or two. I haven’t seen much of them this year but I wonder if the Burgess fitness factor loses its edge after a couple of years?! Our fitness certainly dropped off the year after he left. Perhaps that was down to that fact that his hard running/train through injures type of training is hard to maintain for any longer than a couple of seasons. Selwyn Griffith was questioned in his first year but perhaps our drop in fitness was more to do with a Burgess hangover.

I’ve noticed this in both his games this season. Seems to be playing with a bit more mongrel in him. Quick to defend other players and seems to genuinely enjoy getting in the face of the opposition. Gee I hope he signs another contract with us.

Came over from Ireland about 15 years ago.After learning about Jim Stynes and all he had done on and off the field it was a pretty easy choice to follow the Dees

Agree we need to get games into younger players. I think the club will have looked at what happened with Bedford and be keen not to make the same mistake again. If we don’t get games into young players we run the risk of losing them. It was interesting to hear JT suggest that we drafted for needs to an extent this year and that our two first round picks are our in his opinion are the most likely to debut first this year. Drafting for this flag window and also for the future.

Changes won’t come in until after the Lions get a second top 5 father and son pick next year. Typical AFL reaction. Allow it to massively advantage some clubs and then shut it down.

Your right about the pick for Leake. I forgot GWS traded up the spot with Saints. And Tim Lamb did say by moving up it allowed us access to a tier of players that we wouldn’t have had access to if we didn’t move up. Can’t really agree with you logic about the value of the picks we traded though. We traded two good second round picks during trade week when they had their most value. When the Suns were trying to load up on points. We traded 42 to Saints at the worst possible time we there were few takers and everybody knew we wanted rid of it. Normally you would expect to improve your hand if you trade out early not worsen it. You mentioned the McAdam trade we traded our future 2nd to get him. Second rounders have good value especially early ones. The fact that we didn’t have list spot just mean we would had to trade into next year. They way I see it we had an each way bet on the Harley Reid cup( and from listening to JT it sounds like WC were genuinely considering our offer). We lost our win bet but collected the place in getting Koltyn to the club which I’m very excited about.

I don’t think it’s too hard to make a case that we paid overs to move up to 11. Our original pick ended up being James Leake who I really like the look of and Darcy Wilson was still on the board. 25 & 33 is a lot more draft capital than we got for trading Grundy( an AA ruck). We didn’t have the list spots but could have traded into next year and held a much stronger draft hand. JT said that the move up was two fold- to be in a position to grab a better player and to be in a better position to try and/or get one of the top picks which ultimately we were unable to get. We are normally quite aggrieved with our pick trades. It’s worked for us in the past. We probably lost this time round.

Thanks for the interview Andy. Thought JT was still pre draft interview mode a bit and not wanting to give too much away. Sounds like we have been keen on Windsor since start of last season. Surprised that he thought our two new recruits are the most likely to debut in their first season ahead of others who have already been on the list. He was also keen to let us know that it’s going to take a while for last years tall picks to be ready. JVR is the exception not the rule. Thanks again, always enjoy listening to JT and yourself of course 😊

Looking forward to seeing if Jefferson has managed to put on a few kegs in the off season. I was looking for some YouTube footage of our new recruits when I stumbled across the 2022 game of Vic Metro vs WA when he kicked 7!! Don’t think anybody managed to kick a bag that big in this years champs. I remember an interview he gave this year where he mentioned he’s already put on 6/7kg. If he managed to put on the same again he will be an interesting watch this preseason.

And we have heard several times there was a lovely roast cooked. Was it beef or lamb?

This is my biggest worry for next year. I think the extra bye in round 6 could be a big help to keeping Max fresh and injury free but you can’t help but feel that if the great man goes down injured then our season is cooked. I feel as though the footy department must have a move up their sleeve or know something we don’t. Perhaps they think Verral will progress quicker than others do. Perhaps one of Hore and Melksham won’t make the rookie list. Hore might go to Casey or we find a coaching role for Jake. I just find it hard to believe that the same footy department that made a big move last year to bring in a second AA ruck would roll the dice on big Max staying fit.

Yeah I tend to think time will show that this was a quality draft. Both for top end talent and depth. Cal rated his top 10 in this years draft higher than 2018. I think the first round quality also went pretty deep. Wilson went pick 18 and should have a solid AFL career. A lot of list managers and recruiters said that the next tier of player( from say pick 18 onwards) was very even rather than poor. Take Collingwood for example they would be stocked to get DeMattia at 25 and Tee Jiath at 37. I think the trade up from 14-11 was more about putting our hat in the ring for Reid or another one of the top 4. I guess you have to be in it to win it but unfortunately we lost. We didn’t have the list spot this year anyways but we could have had a much stronger hand next year.

Probably not be we could have turned them into one or two good picks for next year.

Hindsight is 20/20 I guess. But we gave up two decent picks to get Tholstrup instead of Leake who was taking at our original pick. Seems a lot to pay.

I would say every poster on here would back JT over any other poster. We can still all have opinions and be civil about it. No need to be shoot down other posters for the sake of it. By the way every form guide that was published during the season agreed with Danny.

Welcome Koltyn. Can’t wait see how you career develops at the Dees. Just compared his profile to Humphreys from last year. Although not exactly a like for like there’s a lot of similarities. Both mid/forward types tough and hard at it, have scoreboard impact, power, kicking penetration and good marking ability. JT clearly had a type in mind. Unlike others I think Koltyn is a a very good chance to make an impact next year. Already has lots of experience playing against seniors and is already in great physical shape. Doesn’t seems like much will bother him. Had an injury interrupted season last year, good preseason and I don’t see why he can’t push for a spot early next year.

Adelaide hold picks 10, 14 and 20 and are tipped to do a trade with GWS for pick 7

From his Rookie me central profile-“Another facet of Windsor's game he has shown improvement in is his kicking. He often gets good length and is capable of slotting impressive goals on the run, but does a lot of work at speed and that can impact his efficiency in the short-range. When more measured, he is capable of sharp passes which do damage.” If JT thinks he’s the man at 6 I’m happy with that but we may need to lower our expectations of his current abilities. I’m sure he will continue to improve his kicking including when moving at pace.

Think the highlighted bit would be on offer to us if we wanted to do the deal.

On the BigFooty rumour thread that WC are putting their pick 23 on the table along with future first to try and Curtin before Crows make a move. We would surely have to consider it?! Use our own future first and their second rounder to get Swans pick?! Although all the mail seems to suggest we will take Windsor and Tholstrup at our current picks.

I will get on board with whatever JT decides but I’ll be pretty gutted if Geelong mange to snare Curtin