Gawndy the Great

Why ? You can take a view that come to MFC and you’ll be playing sometime in the VFL… I wouldn’t want that either. Doesn't help seeing premiership players like JJ and Harmes leaving either.

Trading Petty only works if: 1) we take a KPD ( Curtain/ O Sullivan) this year and have faith in our youth - Turner etc. 2) We have a pretty good feeling that one of TMac / BBB will be able to play the 1st/2nd tall. 3) we have a good feeling that we will secure an out of contract KPF next year although we don’t seem to have any draft capital to make this work.

That’s just the thing though. Everything you say is right, however can this be transferred to the big league? Does he have the right traits? Strong work ethic, two way running, 2nd efforts etc, elite fitness, strength. Only those in the inner sanctum would have a true read on this stuff as you can only see so much on the field.

Would you want to publicise it though? Or would you try to work out a deal first to get him mostly off your books without having picks come into play? If it wasn’t an issue, why not honour the contract? It’s a lot to keep for depth - i get that - but I think that they are overextended for 2024 and we may some action in the coming days. Not a rumour - just a gut feel.

I don’t think the behinds make the highlight reel 😂

I heard it was only $1M year one and that over four years worked out to be more like $600K per year

Neither have I but I was just saying if I was In their shoes, I wouldn’t advertise the state of the cap as GCS did. The precedent of a salary dump is now there. Nobody needs Haynes at that figure. Hell, not many clubs would go near him for even 500K pa. Can GWS cover 750K+?I’m guessing probably not, so their real position will become clearer the closer we get to Wed. If it’s not dire as they intimate, then he probably stays. If no picks are involved clubs would expect GWS to cover 900K minimum.

With the new CBE what was the increase in total cap spend? Can’t we just give that to Petts? I recall that not many existing contracts were bound to the CBE increases.

That we know of. If they can keep a lid on it they try to control the state of play. If it got out, then nobody touches it without pick 6 on the table. I think I recall hearing that they would be open to covering part of his salary already. So I think this is one which will become more interesting as we approach the deadline and GWS position becomes a little clearer. Curious - what happens if the trade period ends and GWS have overextended?

I dunno. I don’t see him as top 10 let alone top 5 highlights there. I’m no expert and only go by what I see, but I wouldn’t be moving up the draft for 190cm 3rd tall. Its a brutal industry but its not what we need right now. Has he played midfield? Wing ? Any outside role? I guess I just look at his older brother and think of the colossal [censored] show in 5 years time id he was to turn out the same. If the experts say next Nat Fyfe, then by all means go for it. It is such a different game at the next level. I would hate to be a scout.

Our realistic next target is GWS Pick 7/16 for Haynes salary dump. Maybe give GWS our F1 to sweeten the deal and secure 7. Can adjust % salary dump to suit the conditions as well. 6+7 gets Reid I reckon. We hold 11 for O’Sullivan. F3 (WB) for Fullerton, 41 for Brown. Not sure on McAdams.

Ok what’s next?

I think that’s a win for us as we were never going to be holding onto the pick anyway

Official Confirmation

Grundy and futures.

That’s way over for Pick 1… way overs. Hold onto Petty and give WC 6,11 and F1. Norf cannot beat that unless they give up both 2 and 3.

That’s a silly silly trade. Why didn’t we give them a F1

That is exactly how you play this. It’s for Norf to lose. Guess they’d do this with Pick 11 as well.

I’ve been banging on about this move for days. Glad to hear it may have some action as for me it’s an absolute no brainer.

No, that is overs by a long way.

Well this is just BS. It had to be two picks now which has a greater points value than 23 or whatever their first pick was. It’s all going to GCS for Pick 11 anyway so not all is lost.

Yes - if we didn’t have a ruckman to field and wanted a premium ruckman. Supply & Demand.

I don’t think they will. They want the quality players ant the top end and are probably competing for the same players we are eyeing off. North have been vacuuming players for the past couple of years and their list turnover is all but complete. For them it’s all about quality not quantity. WC however need more players and will need to be enticed to trade. I think 5,14 and F1 is overs but probably what it takes they also need to get over Curtin and do the trade with us 😂

I think it’s better than 2/3 and 14 which is what Norf can offer. They are not offering 2 and 3. Curtin is drifting out a little and WC are being held ransom to him. Best they let it go and deal us in.

Is he the bloke that plays forward? What’s his deal? He can kick some snags but tends to go missing a fair a bit.