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Why WCEagles ??? we have never ever had more than about 32,000 for a H and A game for those flogs. so good to see their gloating fans go through some pain now. Must admit what a wonderful player Josh Kennedy has been and 700 goals is a great achievement well earned. BUT twice he should have been suspended or referred by the MRO for rough or illegal acts vs Dees and hasn't been in the last 6/7 years. That's only starting what about the umpires over the years? HOWEVER we have had the last laugh I guess with the wonderful prelim and Grand Final performances in 2021 and had majority crowd and our own fans support to see that magical 13th Flag!
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Good luck hope you wear a mask !!
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It's no good having packages on sale without dates be fair to the Club it's an AFL issue largely. You would be furious if packages were on sale now and got the flight details wrong !!! Its because of the floating fixture.
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Yes Dees vs Saints H and A all at MCG 1961 I think about 60, 000 won easily 1965 72,000 QB clash start of decline beaten by about 6 goals at least. early 2000's 55,000 approx.Cam Bruce was BOG I reckon. 5 goals. Win by about 5/6 goals. Never over about 40, 000 at Marvel in early 2,000's we lost by about 5/6 goals
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Fritta has proved if you have the skills size is not the first thing a forward needs. You are the first person who has said that JVR would be better suited to defence. ( because if his size) I suggest you look at his highlights and his body on body competitiveness looks in good shape. Naturally it's harder ehen an 80 kg teenager is playing on 95:100 KP players. But give JVR a full pre season ( or two) refer Jacko, snd he will be mixing it with most KP Players. JVR had impressed with his marking straight and long kicking and leading and have all declared his ability as a young protege is beyond doubt. In the draft it was well known he can play forward or back and I think its great the Club have him training as a forward in view of our defensive load of talent with Petty and Turner as stars of the future or now as in Harry's case.
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PS Remember R17 vs Eagles goal in square match winner and in GF Tommy Sparrows shepherded goal and earlier in year another similar shepherd. He has some brownie points surely here !!! No one else seems to do it!!
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OUCHI Many fans are far too quick to condemn Tmac. His ability to provide a contest in marking and prevent our opponents get a clean mark is without question. Weid does not do that consistently and our small forwards need those crumbs for their tackling or goalkicking opportunities. Tmac is a more rounded player than Sam but Sam is improving his versitility and awareness week by week and will have breakout days of 3/4/5 goals occasionally. Tommy has about 3 goals max but provides more score involvements. Sam is msybe ahead slightly as a second ruck snd can mark well as does Tommy around the ground. Of course Tmac can play CHB or FB and I would have him in the 22 to combat if needed on King on Sunday, especially if Petty is not 100% or not playing. Agree we need all of BBB Tmac and Sam fit and firing for selection at any stage.
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El Diablo Your analogy of ground capacity is irrelevant. Vary rarely if ever is Marvel capacity threatened as elite match ups snd top clubs games are drawn at the G. In actual fact if Sat nights game was played at Marvel about 25/27 would have attended. Both Clubs supporters favour the G demonstrably as do Even Tigers and Pies fans. I am a little disappointed that our crowds for games overall seem to be about 5/10,000 light on a real increase due to our success. That's US our membership and supporters not OPPOSITION in my opinion. Two observations are the MCC has not been near full yet according to a poster earlier in this dialogue bookings are high in reserving ahead. As I don't know of the conditions of these bookings it looks as though it's the same with our Cotories groups Roth Level 2 not full but sold out for the season in the Olympic and Warne Stands. MCC should be looking at their on day turn ups and leave a greater area for roll ups on the day. They die may be cast it looks like for this season here. Some of Our fans have too much money and a different priority set it appears. I admire their monetary commitment but empty seats won't occur on QB hopefully or our last two Home games in Rounds 21 and 22 vs Pies and Blues, BTW Covid should be at the lower end of the scale now as ticket bookings issues and I bet all the MCC and our Coterie groups will be expecting and gung ho to attend the Finals.
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LH GWS no supporters US (21,000 odd) Hawks prob 5/8,000 US (32,000) Bombers about 12/14,000 (32,000)US Dogs 8/10,000 (50,000)US You are right re opp supporters AFL members not relevant unless Cwood Richmond and I would have thought Hawthorn (over the last 30 years ).we have very few AFL members but approx 20,000 MCC members. Font think neutral fans go much at all except on small basis with friends who support the participating team. Not like years ago with games at the G. So with games vs SaintsvFreo Sydney Lions we still may get below 50,000 to all of those games except Swans. Cwood and Carlton are blockbusters if both teams in 8 or challenging.and 65,000 to 80,000 plus is possible. That May produce an average of around 40/45,000 per game. Not the 50,000 average our 4 year plan wants to achieve at this stage. Of the Plan. This is all speculative of course.
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1. Gawn ( BOG in 3 of last 4 games) 2. Brayshaw 3.Clarrie 4.Trac 5.May 6.Bowser Hon Mentions Viney BBB Bedford Tmac
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And we have been responding every time every where ever since! One day like Bowser on a losing side we won't but just don't do it in a Finals game please.
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Another great example of our coaching development panel and role playing selection that we have now got at our disposal. And player involvement also. Hark back to 2020 and his forward flank days. He is almost unimaginable now in competitiveness body contact and fearless team defense. One day Goody will switch Jayden back up forward and how interesting that might be.
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Chandler is further away IMO now than last year as Bedford has surpassed him. BUT let's not get too warm snd cosy and say that either Kossie or Spargo or even ANB should be dropped for Toby despite his excellent team play yesterday. Showed some great skills in his goals and that pick up that BBB eventually goaled from was pure class. One season of 25 games and 7 this year are excellent brownie points to base a spot in the team for all three. Of course sometimes someone is going to be unlucky like our tall forwards or defenders fighting for positions. It will keep the players on their toes and us fans alert as well. Good competition to have as no one will go stale.
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Agree Weid has taken about 8/10 strong round the grounds marks this year, most up on the wing, in addition to his goals and points marks. Definitely a clone of Jacko's. Tmac is a cleverer all round footballer who does clear paths and gets balls dropped for other forwards and is generally busier than Sam. Another poster said correctly that point along the ground Tmac would have nailed and also a flying shot bs Tigers I thought Tommy would have got that. But Sam is a much better player snd team contributor this year, it's fascinating to watch our talls in action. One in action is a giant Maxy is getting better and better and is so motivating to the team. Watching the replay afterwards BBB annoyed me as he went for marks one handed all night not using his right arm ( think it was this one). I suspect he had a shoulder issue maybe but not a good look.
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It probably won't cost Tmac his place but it was bazar really and Toby was 3 metres away who probably didn't think to yell out "leave it". Another more senior player might have. Also Tmac has more brownie points than any other forward in shepherding goals through ( GF Tommy Sparow and a recent one in earlier round). Are prime examples.
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Your old chestnut Garbo Give it a rest. Fritta does have an off game where he contributes less but the next 2/3 games is a 2/3/4 goal contributor He is our best forward and creates like he did with Bedford last night. He is a match winner even when he does not contribute goals. Like Spargo I don't think he will be dropped any time soon. But it's good that Yoby got some hoals and looks very much at home with the pace of the game.
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Will Max Gawn ever be recognised as the best player in the league?
58er replied to Cheap Seats's topic in Melbourne Demons
Throwing in the steak knives such as Clarry Trac JackV Lingers Maysie Rick Dogga Kossie BBB Salo Bowser ANB Gus Riv Tmac etc. who are pretty good to watch also. -
Clearly the umpire has assessed this action and as Dunkley actually drove his head in to a virtually stationery Crows player's midriff/groin and although ducking is considered illegal he has not awarded a free to the Crows because it was not a dangerous action as it did not constitute taking out the legs in this case so no danger occurred either way. In doing this I believe that he has correctly judged that in this case this is not a dangerous action by the Crow or Dunkley but the free should have gone to The Crow as it should have been deemed holding the ball as no dangerous action was involved. ( AFL speak until an injury occurs after incident happens later in the year) Setting a precedent has not been cast in stone as a result as we all know that if Dunkley had been injured a free would 95% have resulted. I disagree that this piece of play resembled the Schache incident as I recall He was bending down to pick up the ball and run into forcefully by O'Keefe who was moving swiftly and unable to stop. The AFL should however address this matter to the PLAYERS not the Umpires. Mitch Robinson was given a week when his action was deemed ( wrongly) as forceful and Willie Rioli was freed when he took his eye off the ball jumped in mid air and made contact! A far more dangerous action the fact was that Matt Rowell is a chunky strong young man and somehow avoided any serious damage.
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Possibly behind the picket fence in North........!!! Perhaps should have described as Weid not being minded all day with the same opponent. His ruck skills are reasonable but it's his marking around the ground at times that he impresses in this role.
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Swing and a miss DL sorry!
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The number of games to watch has been the same ( except bye rounds) for 20 years plus!! Mot sure when Fox started but it's simple don't watch other games and Thursday night have a bite to eat at the ground. Also psychologically it's now a night that is used in sport so either get used to it or miss out.
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It's still FTA and stand alone !!!
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Rod I have been saying that about Weid fur 12 mths he needs to be set free . That way he goes for the ball without an opponent and generally takes good marks around the ground. As you say then he fired up more down forward. What we can say is that Viney Lever and T Mac are all good footballers. You generally don't go backwards with ability, Toby is still finding his way but I think his confidence will be up and feel very positive about him. Hope he goes well. He still has about 19 premiership players around him to assist also.
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Yes I concur. I even went back last Sunday for a second hold and photos as I was not happy with the photos of myself on the first occasion. What the Cup symbolises is pride, excellence in achievement, and a journey by all supporters like no other which means so much after such a long time. Our players and staff under the circumstances are immortals who will be even prouder for the history making journey that they have undertaken. Achieved in an utterly disorganised season by the pandemic our Cup will even grow in stature by the football public along with history and evolvement of time.