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So true LN snd add Tmac if fit to that mix and it's a scary proposition all defences face when you add the icing and all the mixof the hundreds and thousands that need minding. A weakness becomes a strength.!!' Suddenly.

Tigers now have too or so many other options in classy small mids and flankers any warts are optional and chosen now to be delisted.

They also with their recent midsize on all flanker style recruiting be very choosy who they retained. Dimma has had his say that Tigers have had too many variables on their list. Risk vs Reward ? Maysie Big tick flag and cup!! Bennell Great try but fail Tommy Bugg Half a tick then a fail Lachie Hunter 28 snd should be a big tick flag and cup twice achiever and driver. Kossie Adapted for an 18 yo to Melb city life as much as can be expected. Keep on going with the support big time.Massive tick hug and a flag and cup and more to come. Gawnie Years of hard work but let's be honest he made a choice to be a legend plus a bloody good player. Champion with 3 ticks and hopefully 3 Flags and 3 Cups. Very rare air!!! (RDB Tulip and Stynes say hi welcome Maxy!!) Lets give Sydney some TLC and Demon Culture and he might help deliver a package ( Flag and Cup)

Has 8 years of life learning ahead of Jacko. And footy training also!

That defeats the whole purpose of strengthening the forward line Not enough improvement from last year other than Tmac and JVR which might be ok but I don't think so. With Maxy and Brodie plus the 3 forwards JVR Tmac and Petty the 5 interchanges should work as Maxy needs to spend time down back also.

It's at night and very little humidity yet in SEQld weather.

Could do a lot better Stark even with baggage a far better player and a match winner. Remember his hit ( tackle) on Vines on Anzac Eve 2019 !

All the best Oscar thanks fir all your efforts and good luck in your next chapter of your career and life.

Really another year suddenly makes us look like the Cats!!! Depends upon how they play. But worried we are keeping Melky as younger players may have been better option but JT knows this years strength and depth, Once the pre season is over will be very interesting on how many of our younger recruits are really ready for AFL other than JVR. Good Trade choices means both Hunter and Grundy are locks for our best team and Chandler the next best performed ( with Dunstan and possibly Tommo ) to make the team. We are still right into the Flag window more than ever but need fitness and selection to be sharper to back up form and keep all on their toes in 2023.

What happened to Petty at CHF? our forward line needs Petty JVR and Tmac. Disco can be tall defender no3 and Tommo back up.

Would Salem be any good trying as a 4th mid? Hasn't got pace but is quick to move ball on to his foot? Harmes is also no real difference but his tagging is desperately needed. Maybe a few Kossie stints on the ball are necessary.

I said that about 2 weeks ago when Lachie's name came up. Has something to prove to plenty of new people now. Angus is just now putting the stamp on Lachie's invitation envelope to the Wingers Club next meeting at Lingers Bohemian Pad in Fitzroy! Also To the outdated D/Lers NO Tmac is not getting any Wingers Club invites. His time has run out and he never was a true winger, cameos don't count.

"Too small and outside" are not your likings DS but that's not true. Value of Lingers and Hunter is the outside run maximising the ground space and both are about 185 cm ie 6ft 2" and can run all day. Hunter is very good disposer also advantage of lethal left foot. He can play in HB and HF as well. He is a slightly more polished Mitch White. Schace the steak knives !! Brodie the hero ! Good recruiting Tim.

It's changing so Josh can learn the brand new 2023 fast paced and quick running with ball movement so a busy Xmas for Josh.

A 37 from Sam Weid.

Both Cheesy and Sydee also make so much sense re Petty and our defence / forward mix in 2023. Back up/s can be Tmac Petty and JVR who can all play in defence when needed. Another tall in each area ( BBB maybe) would be great for the injury crisis situation that may occur. Very good reason to keep Weid for 3rd ruck/ forward and also new defence training.

Another illogical "Tmac can play wing" comment. We have just seen half a season of Tmac being missed at CHF and our forward line a mess when it's counted. Other than the fact that Tommy only played "cameos" for 5/6 minutes in 2018(5 years ago and 2or 3 ankle/foot/leg issues since !!!) starting on the wing before he went to forward to Play CHF successfully. But to say he can play wing because of his engine is a very long bow. Five years on his turning circle ( not small in any time or position) and pace will not be the answer. In 2021 and half of 2022 he again played a pivotal role at CHF providing a strong marking presence kicking goals ( around 50 ) and a reliable strong competitiveness bringing the ball to the ground for the crumbers and smalls to goal. That's what we missed last part of last season. Tmac still to play For Pocket / FF/ CHF role in 2023 and rotate with Petty ( and JVR). Agree with Petty forward and marking potential. Necessary experiment to start in beginning of the season. Turner definitely replacement if not Tommo but Disco is potentially a strong chance to succeed. To complete the trio JVR starts as FF to straighten us up and compete. Use his leading and marking prowess and gain experience simultaneously using his strong team skills and ethos he has shown in his one VFL season. The smalls Kossie Spargs ANB Chandler and maybe Laurie should all benefit along with The 50 goals plus Fritta and Gawny and Brodie stints down forward. As has been proven this mix will test all defences with a more consistent game plan and mix of skills needing a very good defensive plan to keep all in check. Nothing is assured but this seems to me to be the plan we need to compete again with Geelong and any other forward line in the AFL.

They obviously did. Kossie and Riv signed for 2 then but Jacko only one so it would have been the same discussion but a different result. But yes the red flag reared its head then!

But we may turn the picks we have into a top 10 player/s this draft or 2023. For 2 firsts snd one second and only Jacko and pick 67 it's better than most other draft picks totals, more than for Jake Lever who many Dees fans thought was "overs" before 2021 and May still. I don't and think we will get our rewards back in the next 2 drafts snd be stronger than ever.

Agree BDA like about 8/10 of our players who the MC snd Goody didn't handle well during 2023.

I was concerned back when Riv and Kossie extended their deals by 2 years and LJ did only ONE YEAR at that time. Ever since I was convinced this trade scenario was the most likely to play out, no matter what results or happenings occurred. Once he didn't sign early this year it was even more obvious of his intentions. I can't be angry with Jacko but are very disappointed as I believe we treated him well. He thanked Melb warmly in his interview with WA Sportsday and I have just the feeling although he is wrapped to be at Freo now being with his mates may prove a distraction or it could help him go to great heights as a player. Good luck Dogga you are a freak and 1 will never forget seeing you in the GF help our mighty Club break that drought and you become a Demon Legend.

Who's GNF ?

What about a living away from home clause for extra pay? Ie buy them fir a bit extra afl clause with limitations.

Dont know about that but he has attempted to contact all players and Staff inc. coaches personally and messaged his thanks etc. Do please don't go on a witch hunt KITP.

Sorry Stiff Arm gif mit read your post correctly and you made exactly the very good point that we agreed upon. Poach the Vics boys back!!!