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There's only ONE Clarry destined for even more greatness. Not mentioned enough and very underrated by opposition supporters. Respect is owing from 17 other Clubs fans!

Jefferson won't be there for our 2nd pick nor will Gruzewski . It's one or t'other at 13 if we don't rise in draft beforehand.

Yes but he twice at least "burnt" players that looked bad and selfish. Surely any player should be balanced enough to recognise team play. Kossie can sometimes be a bit goal happy near goals when on angles and not always look to centre the ball or look in that direction. Gets away with it as he can get tight goals others seem to miss though.

It's not our call the AFL might ask our opinion but they decide the GF in the AFLW.

How can you say that? Petty at his age has a wonderful career in store. We should use him best for our team and forward he has a great future. Our great full back could play firward but we are talking a cameo only. We would be so much better with Petty JVR Tmac BBB Fritta Kossie some other small crumbers and resting rucks at times making our forward line varied and strong. It's a team game and we have some options let's use them.

Absolutely the biggest SHIFT necessary for 2023. Do it snd we are with all else back as a real Flag favourite even with Cats starting about 5 goals in front in Round1.

Thanks DD Seems a good plan and a good enough reason to consider Barrett. Although I am a Jefferson fan now with all the evidence we can muster. His career and skills are impressive and should develop like Fritta I would think. If course a speedy outside mid would not go astray like Allan from WA if he fell our way.

Stick to Surfing Ir doesn't work like that Grab the best when you can You are assuming there are Going to be 30 /40 Cadmans in 2023 Draft. Not so. 13 for Jefferson does not interfere with any draft choices for next year. Cadman snd Jefferson I don't believe are much apart with Cadman bring more physically developed at this stage. Matthew is a bigger Fritta and is highly regarded and record is not much different toCadman. JVR is also waiting in the wings developing nicely.

Rubbish Too much Focus on negatives of players c/f to top5/6 recruits. Part of AFL is developing your picks. We have high coaching standards to accomodate up to top45/40 as has been proved. some develop quicker than others and some are like Clarry ready to go. It's a bit of a lottery really and JT has it under cover from all bases. Don't fret we'll get 2 good additions.

Said this in a different fashion last week. JVR was not scrutinised with his life like Matthew is being and it's majorly his physical devopment. Yes needs building up but the prototype must be Fritta whom has developed each year since 2018. And Jeffo will join some very good players in our team and on the forward line. Part of a unit Dees always play best with that part of a team all being responsible and each different. Get him ASAP pick 13 or higher!

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How does he fit in with Grundy/Gawny scenario? Admittedly both G's are nearer the end of their careers than the start but both would have at least 2/3 years Brodie 5 possibly. Can Barrett play forward better than either star ruck? DD any thoughts?

That's good luck and good news!!! PD

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Others have described Jefferson differently so if he's the 2nd best FF in the draft and we can't get Cadman let's give him a go as we still need support for JVR and our older forwards in the near future. Read today's HS and at pick no 14 they say not best player but most needed by the Club at this pick. Also he had great marking skills and plenty of scope for development. How old is your 76 km Weight for Matthew.? Quoted now as 84kg! In HS. Too many draft experts concentrate on an 18 yo players small shortcomings or perceived faults. A robust skill base plus competitiveness is a great start to give our coaches to perform their role at the Club. I say get Jeffo in work on his ability and potential. JVR was not and is not yet a finished product but nicely on the way as a remember.

Time to get on the phone and ring membership if you are unhappy. Not ONE D/L er can assist you really no matter what you say. Good Luck from Consecutive 58 year adult MFC member who can wait for the present.

And finishing 13th in the Melb Cup 6 or 7 places above 19 or 20 does provide ONE advantage, greater prize money but generally means you are a better horse. Picks after top6/8 often are called as lower or out if elite but that doesn't mean they are not good players and that no 20 pick is better. Sliders are often players who have suffered injuries over the draft year and slide because if it but can be dodgy with a bad knee or other perceived or real disadvantage. Kossie was No 12 and is a better player than Sparrow or Jordan. In the 20's or 30's. Your reasoning is not logical nor based on any facts just fantasy in believing this sort of [censored].

Joel Selwood says hi ho come and see my 4 flags and trophy cabinet!!!

The idea of physicality ( height and strength physically and of course mentally ) are great attributes in any footballers kit. Did we actually look at Fritta in the 2017 Draft and say no he's too light and plays without a good degree of physicality. I don't think so because we were more concerned about his marking and exciting ball skills and goalkicking! I maintain that a little more of that and Jefferson would paint a different picture to how we consider him for this years draft. We are still comparing him to the bigger and more developed Cadman who we can't recruit unless a miracle occurs. Either recruit Jefferson and work with him ( JVR is not the finished product at AFL level but has some varied strings to his bow) and learn from the Fritta model that with improvement and coaching plus strong motivation based on a high skill level at his craft that can be successful this day and age mixed in with other gifted players in their role.

Much rather Marinoff only have tackles rather than the footy. The two games that showed the level of toughness needed to win the AFLW Flag we're the Lions and Tigers clash and our very tough Qual Final vs Crows. Finally we have completely overcome our mental and physical shackles of the Crows which stood out in our Round 1 win also. Mick and Coaching staff have got this list to it's ideal maturity and youth game wise plus physical approach to footy that we don't take anything now from the opposition. We like our 2021 Men Champs are in charge of our destiny with our very strong mental approach snd sll it needed Friday night was reaffirmation if that plus a couple of genius coach moves and the girls desire to change the game and play it on our terms. We won't be bullied even by the Lions ability if we play to the level on the Prelim and Final.

Depth each year changes and our newer recruits are a year older and after their first real pre season JVR especially is ready for a season start in the big time. Others who should be available during the season are Taj W Bailey Laurie and maybe AMW. Disco Turner is tracking well for a defence promotion esp if Petty can go forward. Dunstan and Tomlinson are reliable back ups and Schache could be the surprise of the season. Fitting Grundy in replaces Jacko and Lachie H on the wing will still have to earn his spot but I have no doubt if his ability. Kade Chandler deserves a go in HFF and to put extreme pressure on Spargs and ANB. Down back or even forward Bowser is ready to star again in the big time. That's 11 players adding to our 22 taking out Hunty and replacing with JJ. Reality is some of our players need to be given a chance to put pressure on one that slipped in 2022 from 2021.

Hope it's right in 2023 Deem as we deserve that ability to score heavily and in bang bang bang patches!

The issue of minding Charlie Cameron is that Hibbo has runs on the board even though the Semi performance was underwhelming, along with several other players games that night. With regard to Smithy in the QUAL Final in 2021 he had no idea of how to mind Charlie especially in the first quarter. He was slow and his footy smarts were shown up that night early. Not sure now who can mind Charlie if Hibbo fails or we are unable to invent another blocker.

Disagree It's Clarry that will struggle ( see earlier post) but remember it's all good Training and experience for Clarry. You have got to start somewhere !!