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Same thing could be said as to why there's 700 replies based on a baseless Oliver rumour.

Well obviously the gay afl players think that people care. hence why none of them have felt comfortable to come out. in the aflw, they have already had several players happily parade around their gay partners and they have been in the comp for a mere speck on the afl timeline. Its all well and good to say no-one cares, it's not our business etc. but you're not recognising that the proof is in the fact that as many as say 30 afl players (statistically speaking) haven't felt that the afl society is ready for it. which is sad

I agree. But i haven't seen too many afl players take their boyfriends to the brownlow. so call it what you like, but gay afl players are proactively choosing not to come out which is a reflection of society still.

And whilst the AFL pride themselves on being leaders in equality in and around the LGBT community, at the end of the day the system/culture/environment isn't to a point where gay afl players are coming out. i dont blame the players, nor do i necessarily blamethe afl but just acknowledge that the system hasn't achieved anything in this regards and not one afl player has come out over the years and there would have been hundreds. I also thought if the afl are going to take the high ground on mental health they should have slapped Damian Hardwick with a heavy fine for his comments on David Schwarz. For him to say that Schwarz wasnt brave because he was crying undoes a lot of good work that the afl do in encouraging men to speak up about mental health, and show emotion etc. It was such a regressive comment by Hardwick and its just another reason why i reckon he's a [censored]. And with regards to Rhyce Shaw, not mentioning what he is going through just adds unnecessary speculation and further compounds the idea that poor mental health is something to ashamed of.

highly highly highly unlikely. Statistics show that if 5% are gay then that's 30 gay afl players. you shouldn't be so ignorant to think that there is a possibility that there are no gay afl players.

i'm all for respecting privacy but all of this elephant in the room stuff is disappointing. Our society does such a good job of advocating for men and women to speak up about mental health etc. but when something tragic happens like shane tuck, or the aflw player passing away its a taboo topic. We've got a long way to go. Same with gay footballers. Statistics say that there's about 20 gay afl players currently playing AFL yet not 1 afl player has come out during his playing days. Once again, disappointing.

Gets better? he is an AA and squad member.How about pointing the fingers on players that are actually [censored] like the McDonald brothers or the coach in Goodwin. And if anyone of the stars should be criticised it should be Viney who got caught holding the ball more time than Goodwin says 'learnings' or 'we gotta get better'

he made the AA squad for God sake

Well it's like a bunch of headless chooks running around. We already know he is staying so the only reason I can understand there is a thread on this is of people have a sick fetish that they enjoy dreaming up trades that arent happening. Why can't we focus on the head coach who actually will be leaving in 2021.

Man this is a sad lot. Weeks and weeks of gossiping about Viney, analysing how he looked frustrated at the Bnf etc. Nek mennit..5 year contract. Shame on all of you. So what do you shift your wasted attention to now?? A baseless Oliver rumour. lol. Does anyone on this forum understand football?

he isnt behind jackson. As a ruck Preuss is miles ahead of him. Jackson was a forward this season that can pinch hit in the ruck. If you pitted Jackson against Preuss in the ruck Jackson would get monstered. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story

Trac Oliver Salem Jackson Weideman and Brayshaw were all top 10 picks. and many top 5. still question marks on pickett and even bigger question marks on Sparrows kicking and speed.

500 replies based on nothing factual. people are so dumb. He isn't going anywhere.

do we seriously need a new thread for this? how about a new thread for 'let's get Bont' or 'let's get Dusty'. Jesus christ

lol. trading oliver wont happen. and was never going to happen

He was traded for pick 31 in his prime. That's where melbourne rated him and port Adelaide. I personally thought it was a steal for us. You can't carry blokes that don't attack the football.

ask afl fans from other clubs. watts wasn't considered a good player. and rightly so

Yeah but we have no pick this year in a season where there wasn't much to get excited about. So we have to go another season with an unproven pickett and a promising jackson and rivers as our only up and coming players under 20

wait, so you think Watts was a good player? For all the [censored] that Weideman gets he is miles ahead of watts and attacks the ball 100 times harder. Peoples infatuation with Watts is a clear example of fans' inability to concede that some players just dont work out. and don't give me games played nonsense. he was gifted most of them in a team that was bottom 4.

How about we stop giving up first rounders. surely we've learnt our lesson. we're nowhere near the premiership window. Especially with Goodwin at the helm.

Zac Williams, Saad, Dees chasing Daniher, Gaff, Andrew Brayshaw, Viney to Cats, Oliver wants out. Glad I don't read into any demonland dribble until it eventuates

gaff is one of most overrated players in the league in my eyes. He plays in a stats era thst exaggerates his impact. He gets most of his touches on the half back flank and does nothing with his disposals. He can't break lines or defend.

....but there's no chance he's leaving. nothing of fact has even come out. in fact, the reporter that initially reported it when backwards on it very quickly when he realised how big the outrage/speculation was going to be.

Can we seriously close this thread. Oliver is contracted and going nowhere.

how on earth could the footy club possibly think that OMac was better than Frost. Mind boggling stuff. For a team that is slow we trade away our quickest player. real smart