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So on the return match, will the members boo him, or applaud him ....

That's a really fair analysis @Redleg AFL sanctioned of course...

well, that's my point.? I'm totally cool on the go home factor, be it Hogan, be it VDB, whomever - it makes sense...it's disappointing if things transpire that way for whomever for the club, for supporters, and I still get it... But to do a Mitch Clarke...well, it just feels deceitful. (or a mal michael)....

love it... what did you google to bring this up? or do you have an amazing love for mr bean?

Which would suggest he is completely disgruntled and doesn't care where he goes (ie: its not the go home factor) or its only about coin.... that doesn't feel accurate at all....

speculation staves off boredom though...

In all sincerity @Mach5, thank you for being clear.

Oh, I get it now... these major developments are happening, yet whilst you are aware of 'said' major developments as a third party, you are unwilling to obtain more information, but more than happy to let others know that you have some sort of information, that something, somewhere is occurring, at some stage. I wasn't expecting a media release, but assumed you would be posting, and was frothing for it...

FWIW and I'm just one punter... Even though Jesse has a range of god given talents....I wonder whether he genuinely fits the system and culture that Goodwin really wants...

Is evening from "6pm-9pm" or is it up to 11.59pm?

bellingcat are on to you

He might have really nice pace...but is he quick ??

Has the trade been done yet,so I can move on with my life? @Mach5, if there is no news re your earlier post - I’ll hunt you down.

I dropped him in there - #1512 I could have easily said Kelly... I suppose.

Just a broad view thought Through the death of his father, through cancer, through signficant injury... there is a whole range of existential stuff playing out for him...and has been for sometime. I wouldn't blame him if he seeks the coin to play in his home state, where his mates are, at the expense of the relationships he has formed here...because nothing is guaranteed. He's 23 and may not value (because he is 23) what we perceive as a successful period of time...he may be a really pragmatic bloke, and think that, he has time in his career to be part of something bigger back home. Even though there is a whole lot of $$$ on offer presumably, it's clearly bigger than that for the bloke.

on a reflection, quite the fair point you have there @MurDoc516 ...erm, for the love of the red and the blue, and an electricity bill discount?

Since when does Gaff need to be traded for @praha? Ideally, Hogan--> Freo Neale ---> Brisbane Picks 4,5 to Melbourne Gaff to Melbourne Preuss to Melbourne May to Melbourne 5 to GC 4 to GWS Whitfield to Melbourne

so would you if you still had your teeth... boom tish...ill see myself out.

Well @Tony Tea it still sounds as though it’s about the potential for something to happen rather than it is happening. fWIW - I’m almost happy for him to go to merely prove the point to some posters that it’s ok to discuss hypotheticals, as sometimes those hypotheticals occur.

Totally pleased... I come here for the debate, and opinions, anything is fair go as long as it isn't bigoted. Mind, it feels for the some that the emotional cost to not potentially have Hogan is too much, that they can't even hear a 'pub type conversation' that is happening on an internet forum. I like you're first point though, perhaps you could post that...and then exit the thread? Because as you say, it's a total waste of energy discussing Hogan leaving/trading options etc, unlike the meta debate about whether Hogan role in the team is worthy of a trade is appropriate or not... as that is far more worthy of energy.

Why @Jaded, it is a forum after all. You don't have to open the thread.

Yeah, you're right @Clint Bizkit. I'm thinking in terms of this shift towards 'pre-agency' from clubs... He's one year off becoming a free agent (am I wrong on this?), andGWS may want to maximise their return...this year instead.

What would need to occur (or what is the chance) of prising J Kelly away from GWS this trade period?

hogan > may

@layzie...he doesn't need to be traded for Some people also like the issue of $ taken off the table... ie: "I want what I am worth on the market but prepared to take a little less + presumed success "(and that presumed success offsets the extra 100k,200k). He might be a 'thug' now but I don't think he is a mercenary... ? Anyway we will find out if @ProDee is accurate or @Grimes Times is, in around 10 days methinks...