Engorged Onion

100% agree @demoniac - I remember Hawkins was pilloried for the first 3/4 seasons of his career - and that was a decade ago...same narrative happens... we all 'know' that key talls take longer - unless you are a freak genetically (Hogan) - but we still want awesomeness straight away.

For mine, he looks quite elegant.

Now that the heat has gone out of the Brayshaw incident... - it’d be remiss if we didn’t enquire about him. One punch does not make a boxer/ one swallow does not make a summer...

Hee hee, that should have been ‘dorks’ - far less inoffensive than that Kyle dude.

these two jerks?

Haven't seen or heard of anything @radar- what was his response? also, what's the crows comment in reference to?

and don't forget the the $70k for wattsy

its not a best and fairest vote though is it - it was who did you as a coach deem to be most influential on the ground today... Simpsons or less likely Lyon is well within their rights to vote that way... irrespective of what occurred. It's not supporting what happened, its removing that incident and looking through a more objective lens....

#goodblokethough

I like your reconnaissance @Skuit - that young mid would have to be Kent right?! Right?? Oh dear - Hogan played midfield... FMD

salacious...

I was a little tounge in cheek - and also it was irrespective of contract situations... mostly little bro's follow the big dog in the house :)... or go the complete opposite way of course and yer bang on @Ethan Tremblay..whatever sells the papers.

just the alternate view, but why wouldn't his brothers want to come back and play with him???

I always wondered whether mav was a relative of paul...

As reference to a smart ball user on the wing who has pace (and some) I reckon J.Thurlow would be a cracker, hasn't delivered as cruelled by injury a few years back and too good for VFL...

? very good. poor sod, gifted athlete but not the nous. Mind, his goal coming off the bench v. Collingwood was a beauty...

ooooh nastae!

there are no cleanskins anywhere... people have fallings out either inadvertently or otherwise in life... clearly there are no MAJOR ethical or governance concerns...and his resumè and body of work is exemplary. We are a destination club on and off the park, at this point in time...amen to that.

I for one would be satisfied if Dom left for greater opportunities... aside from disposal errors, he's a solid contributor...but as it stands in this team in 2018 - he doesn't make it into the best midfield that we can put on the ground.

Thanks @Wiseblood, @Demonland time to get a vomit button...

I would concur @Skuit, it's a bloody well run FD and trading out of the first round seems naive - but the FD are not naive - something is a cooking...

aside from the last 4 that we have won... there is history, and there is recent history. chin up , they'll prepare accordingly for it

Glad you're passionate and these comments to me a nonsensical. We've landed Lewis and Lever in the last few pre seasons. So we're not bullied. And something to warm the cockles - A contact of a contact of a contact (I've been umming ahhing about putting this forward, as I know certain personnel hate this), alluded that Gaff was not dissimilar to Lever, in that Goodwin and co have been maintaining relationships with him for years...unless something drastically changes...well...not dissimilar to Lever. So in my mind, it'll play out quite nicely for us.

Hunting down all those quotes reminds me of this

it's almost like you want him to go down...