Engorged Onion

That's a really fair analysis @Redleg AFL sanctioned of course...

well, that's my point.? I'm totally cool on the go home factor, be it Hogan, be it VDB, whomever - it makes sense...it's disappointing if things transpire that way for whomever for the club, for supporters, and I still get it... But to do a Mitch Clarke...well, it just feels deceitful. (or a mal michael)....

love it... what did you google to bring this up? or do you have an amazing love for mr bean?

Which would suggest he is completely disgruntled and doesn't care where he goes (ie: its not the go home factor) or its only about coin.... that doesn't feel accurate at all....

speculation staves off boredom though...

In all sincerity @Mach5, thank you for being clear.

Agreed @Smokey. He's big, he physically impacts, but by god, he can't hit a target either by hand or foot.

cause im bored...and i like to hammer home points ps...it's tathra.

Because they're a mature organisation and understand that investment in people doesn't guarantee them a return in this particular climate. More practically, they understand that a player needs to look after themselves long term......and then there is the humanistic side of...bloke has lost his father, practicalities of being close to home etc etc... AND, your opinion is fine that you think he is selfish for that.. I just wanted to check I had that correct.

Oh, I get it now... these major developments are happening, yet whilst you are aware of 'said' major developments as a third party, you are unwilling to obtain more information, but more than happy to let others know that you have some sort of information, that something, somewhere is occurring, at some stage. I wasn't expecting a media release, but assumed you would be posting, and was frothing for it...

If the FD are cool with him leaving, does he owe you your emotional investment in him still?

@WERRIDEE, did you read the article? Do you understand his position and context? Do you still have the same opinion?

FWIW and I'm just one punter... Even though Jesse has a range of god given talents....I wonder whether he genuinely fits the system and culture that Goodwin really wants...

Is evening from "6pm-9pm" or is it up to 11.59pm?

https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/09/27/if-melbourne-are-going-to-trade-jesse-hogan-heres-how-to-do-it/ Thought this was a good read on numerous levels

bellingcat are on to you

As an observation a ll players that I’ve been in contact with, know the commercial reality - they rarely speak of it as a brotherhood or all my mates - even the 18yo speak in terms of working in the organisation they are currently employed at. There is a generational shift in how they perceive the afl football landscape and understand that everyone and anyone can be gone and change clubs in this time for trades. To them it is merely a job... it’s hard to be passionate about your own job day in day out right? It’s no different for them. Its us supporters that still hold on to notions of tearing the fabric apart (yes not your words), when players leave.

He might have really nice pace...but is he quick ??

Has the trade been done yet,so I can move on with my life? @Mach5, if there is no news re your earlier post - I’ll hunt you down.

I dropped him in there - #1512 I could have easily said Kelly... I suppose.

Just a broad view thought Through the death of his father, through cancer, through signficant injury... there is a whole range of existential stuff playing out for him...and has been for sometime. I wouldn't blame him if he seeks the coin to play in his home state, where his mates are, at the expense of the relationships he has formed here...because nothing is guaranteed. He's 23 and may not value (because he is 23) what we perceive as a successful period of time...he may be a really pragmatic bloke, and think that, he has time in his career to be part of something bigger back home. Even though there is a whole lot of $$$ on offer presumably, it's clearly bigger than that for the bloke.

on a reflection, quite the fair point you have there @MurDoc516 ...erm, for the love of the red and the blue, and an electricity bill discount?

Since when does Gaff need to be traded for @praha? Ideally, Hogan--> Freo Neale ---> Brisbane Picks 4,5 to Melbourne Gaff to Melbourne Preuss to Melbourne May to Melbourne 5 to GC 4 to GWS Whitfield to Melbourne

so would you if you still had your teeth... boom tish...ill see myself out.

Agreed 100%...