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Yep credit where credit is due. We just want to see it more than one week. big game against the doggies, so we will see if he can back it up.

I have a theory that Hogan is vital up forward when we don't have momentum and we can only bomb it in under enormous pressure, but when we have the momentum, Hogan in the middle is better as a linking target who can take a grab. Goodwin is starting to use him in the middle and I think we play better that way, especially if we have a recognised ruckman in so Pederson and watts can play as forwards.

were you saying that in the first month of footy ?

good luck getting Essendon to pay anyone for any wrong doing.

yes he was a great point of difference being a big bodied midfielder. As Commetti once said about Vanders, He doesn't do anything great, but does everything well. He is worth persisting with if we think he won't turn into a trengove situation and lose his pace.

Yes Reid has more ability. The pace of the game seems to have passed Tippett by. He wouldn't be worth a lot of the open market and I think is too slow defensively when he goes forward.

Journos and commentators describe it as they see it. Coaches can talk aspirationally. He thought our structures and endeavour was good in the first half. And it probably was. We were just woeful executing the play. Remember he got that side which was dialobiical to come out and play some decent footy after half time. His message was get the delivery right and we are right back in this. What he saw was something that needed tweaking, while everyone else thought it needed major surgery. But he got the job done. Normally we would have gone 'woe is me' and gone back into our shells. But we dug our heels in and kept working hard.

I was thinking the same thing. OMac is probably going to give more than Weideman as a forward and TMac can go back a bit more depending on the side. Would work for Collingwood with Frost taking Moore.

play him when he is ready. this game will fully test such an injury. if its a few more weeks, its still an excellent scenario.

It would be hard for the hawks but may I say how incredibly terrible for the league and a vomit in the mouth moment if Hawthron after acquiring Lake from the struggling Doggies, then acquiring Frawley for the struggling Dees (and acquiring premierships because of it), then just go and get a third key back in May. How sickening that would be, if its not already showing how free agency is the catasptrophic flaw in evening up the competition. Seriously Hawthorn have no objective to develop through the draft, to develop Hawthorn players. just pillage other teams lists and the AFL rules are to blame. and its sickening to watch.

May looked very quick and is a decent kick with a good grab. He and TMac would be a strong combo against talls, and both have very good pace.

I most weeks and again on Saturday night, its our defence who seem to be brittle early on then they gain their composure later in the game. Even against North last week Vince completely fumbles an easy ball in the back pocket and North get the goal. This week, Frost takes the ball and tries the slowest baulk I've seen on Tom Lynch, gets tackled and we dish up the goal. Other times Oscar just completely stuffs his disposal by hand or foot and coughs it up. BUT the terrible stuff seems to happen early.

really interesting player Sam Frost. Some think you can't improve your kicking but he certainly has, and his speed out of the backline is breath taking at times. still drops easy marks but his recovery is very good. He is gaining in confidence no doubt and he, Hibberd and Hunt make for a very attacking half back line. Hope he can maintain this level as he has not shown it before. It makes you think if he improved his marking, we could have a real beauty on our hands here.

Yes but we were able to convince Hibberd as well who is a quality player. Players will start to see we are creating a strong team here with plenty of hardness and flair. I like the Hawthorn model where they usually got in one real quality player each year, rather than 2 or 3 B graders i.e Burgoyne, Gibson, Lake, Frawley that filled a need at the time. slowly but surely building the jigsaw pieces to complete the puzzle. We have brought in Lewis and Hibberd who are big ticks so far. I think if we can get a quality key tall backmen, and they are hard to get, we will be doing well. The other would be a real quality outside runner like an Isaac Smith type. If we can complete just one of these in the off season we will be doing well. Quality will be the key.

Jesse deserved it as did Cotchin

who are they ? which ones ?

He is not express but he is not slow. quite a long kick too. Would like to see him more up the middle where he belongs. He could be one of those bloes who gets better and better as he is good at quite a few things. except short kicking at this stage.

Buddy was at that level.

Been a very good player for us, and asked to do jobs he may not be suited to personally. He is definitely one of the guys helping to lift us off the bottom, and we can't take that for granted. Sanderson didn't want him and he was our gift for Silvia leaving.

When things got tough against the Saints where was Kelly?. but im sure if they had their full side in and pumping the saints he would have looked a millions bucks. a very good outside runner but not worth close to a million. go for a lesser priced fast finisher and throw good money at a key back.

good post. Weideman should serve a fair bit of time in the twos. apparently was quite poor yesterday so let him play a full year at Casey. He obviously has some ability, a good mark and a nice kick. We just need to build him up to get more of the ball, so he can at least get 10-15 possession games.

He probably is right. Very Fair on Tom but you have to give Oscar a bit more time. I actually think Tom is the worst kick in the league.

yes we were bees to a honey pot yesterday, sometime with 4 up spoiling and mot one ground level player to contest.

Would much rather go the hawthorn rote and get one quality player that fulfills a need. E. G Hibberd is a perfect example. We need a quality talk backmen who can stand the Danihers, Hawkins, Pattons etc and ideally a good kick. Hawks god gibson, lake and Frawley knowing how vital they can be. Yes history shows spending $1.5 m on Fyffe will improve you but no one has won a premiership. We don't want a jealous group.

I might be in a minority here but Melksham brings much needed urgency and impacts contests a lot. I think people don't see what he and JKH were bringing defensively for us on the weekend. He also has some toe. I keep hearing Wagner is quick but I didn't see a lot of pace when he played. Melksham is not as bad as people think.