Bay Riffin

excellent summation. Stretch is the ultimate professional and I believe lacks the confidence self belief at the highest level. I look at a successful club like Hawthorn and they would hang on to him i reckon and let him develop in the twos until his experience allows his talent to shine through. especially when he has done everything right. plus he is a outside runner. Fritsch looks a real talent to me, still not sure on the defensive side but his Kenny Hunter type marking looks elite. and looks a beautiful kick. Height helps as well to spoil as we saw from Saprgos first goal which looked like as Essendon mark till the late spoil came. I wonder if he gets a bigger tank if the wing beckons? reminds me of Flower a bit.

I was at the game and had a great aerial view. Stretch - did not take the game on enough. we gave so much effort and were our own worst enemy at times. One play he received the ball at half back with a free man at half forward. an almost certain shot on goal coming up. he decided to go sideways and gave richmond time to man up. he gets in ok position but is playing too safely and to be honest was too fumbly all night. i would give him another game though and see if he learns. ANB - doesn't look half the player of last year where he was very reliable. tough, hard runner but looks out of form to me. just looks like a VFL player at present. both not great defensively either with 2 and 1 tackles respectively. Max Gawn had 8.

They always jump us with good clean footy, and we are on the back foot. Geez there is some big starts in there. A bit like what Brisbane face against us. By the time they drew level, they had given their all but then we ran away with it. Their defensive set up is always better than ours so im always prepared for the easy mark that goes to their key backs all day. i.e infuriating.

Was exceptional tonight. Very good all round game. Kicked the clutch goal at the end.

1. We looked gone at half time then came back hard 2. No one dominated yet we pushed them to the final siren. 3. Petracca looks fitter and set for a big year.

investigates? investigates the facts, or asks question she wants the right answer from. I think there is a difference. she knows what sells and works towards that. The fact she looks above most journs because she actually does something doesn't make her a legit investigative journo.

yes but that's about it maybe elite vision as well.

its a good sign to see the 2nd and 3rd categories so well stacked. I generally agree and maybe Lewis and Vince will drop off a bit in their autumn years now. I think the extra we will gain from Salem and Brayshaw will be more about getting them consistently on the park and performing. They already have both shown plenty. same goes for Hogan. I also think Oliver can improve quite a bit in metres gained. so often he doesn't go forward almost by auto pilot. he could break games open more and become even better.

yes we are all ears ???

Jack Fitzpatrick. it was seriously average.

not to mention Lever is young as well.

game on. now Adelaide are saying Lever wanting Melbourne is 'all good and well' but we are negotiating with 10 Victoria clubs. I think they need reminding of the Scott Thompson deal for a late first rounder.

and our opponents will tag him out of the game like the grand final.

and lose two years first rounders ? no thanks

that is very very interesting. I have used that Port game as an example many times. we absolutely shellacked them first half and should have been 10 goals up. but all the games since then seemed to be like another team out there, we went back into our shell, and by the end looked cooked. I like many just was stunned by those last few games.

if we make finals I would call it a resounding success, we needed leadership, in fact we were begging for it. Don't forget how many games last year where we jus could not stop the onslaught. You may not realise how often he senses the other team getting a run on and starts defending against it. We have had no idea how to do that until this year. In the first 12 games no-one really got hold of us and Lewis was a key difference (Hibberd as well).

yep we can only go on what we are seeing and his first year is a massive tick for me. absolute leader out there.

everyone who has said Lewis was finished last week, please hope on board and give us your view.

The assertion is not an insult to our leaders at all. Have a look at our record with those leaders in the team over the past few years. Lewis has been critical to us when the game is going against us. Far to often when the momentum swings like the 2nd quarter on Monday, we have curled up our toes and got shellacked. Goodwin will have him as one of the first picked every week.

Its why Hawthorn were so effective yet not winning the clearances. You can shut down the opposition in other ways. and when he gets his kicking game going he is vital to setting us up. will be top 5 in our B and F this year.

go watch the replay and concentrate on his defensive efforts, his positioning and being a key to stifling Collingwood in the second half. As someone on here said, you don't have to have the footy to be effective. He could do the same game again and he will not be dropped.

if he just looked to 'draw' the contests he would tackle more I think, but if his opponent isn't marking it his aim is to beat him and gain possession. We have a beauty here.

Yep credit where credit is due. We just want to see it more than one week. big game against the doggies, so we will see if he can back it up.

good luck getting Essendon to pay anyone for any wrong doing.

I was thinking the same thing. OMac is probably going to give more than Weideman as a forward and TMac can go back a bit more depending on the side. Would work for Collingwood with Frost taking Moore.