Bay Riffin

yes its is harsh. I wanted to put them away, but Hawthorn took it to Richmond as well in the finals. They played better than the quality of their list and have some old warriors. they also top up all the time which helps them be competitive.

yes when we were rubbish.

if they play 4 debutantes that's almost game over right there. lets hope so.

due back the minute AFLX finishes. lol.

I think ANB would be playing Harmes role by now, but Harmes just went to such a high level, he is an automatic selection. very under valued given he shuts down a big name often as well as being constructive with the ball. With Tyson gone he will still have a chance.

I thought our play in the second quarter was simply superb. and didn't kick a goal !! possible our best 'general play' quarter for the year.

very positive report. hope its on the mark. I noticed Melksham was very restricted during the finals with his hamstring. he was still in such good form for us. amazing really. I think hes more important the Petracca on our forward line so hope we get him right. the other is Viney. amazes me he was in rehab due to his foot, then played finals then back to rehab. Doesn't that suggest we were rolling the dice a bit?. we need to get him right and if you ever going to rest him its now.

sorry but that backline was all at sea in the preliminary final, both aerially and when we turned it over in the midfeild they strolled into goals. strolled. No way is it the envy of other teams without Lever ad May.

im very interested to see what Baker can produce for us. He was tracking nicely until injury curtailed his season, getting good numbers for Casey and should be pushing for his first game this year. We need someone with pace to break through. The most mouth watering prospect is May and then Lever to join what could be an elite backline by the end of the year. and if Weids becomes consistent, we should be very strong aerially. it certainly helped the weagles.

I’ve heard on the Monday after the preliminary he took too many Brownlow votes.

agree ch 7 is nauseating and MMM is in turn actual vomit. they have turned placement ads into the commentary into a disgraceful artform. "good tackle by McDonald, a contender for the 'insert product' tackle of the day right there. as we look as the 'insert product' scoreboard.

yes the minimum 35-45 min gap reaks of general pre-game chatter and a hundred ads pumped at you.

his recruiting whilst not great wasn't too bad. nothing like the Pendergrast years

Yes if Petty comes good where will we play him ?? he will be behind May and Lever for quite a while. and Oscar as well. Might be a case of team balance like the Hogan trade and trade him out for a quality player who can sure up a weakness.

are they realy that good at drafting in the last 5 or so years? or was it more 10 years ago. They just keep bringing in other teams developed players. Who is their young talent coming through?. I thought Sicily and perhaps Burton could be A grade. not sure there is much else. and they gave up Burton to again bringing in someone else's talent, Wingard. not sure they are the recruiters to be listening to.

Sounds like Charlie Spargo Mark II

at around the 70 game mark was my comparison. Reiwoldt was settling into an 11 possession 2.8 goals FF. Jess was around 18 possies 2.5 goals a game. I have Hogan ahead. He gets a LOT of the ball.

Hogan is clearly ahead of Reiwoldt at the same stage of their careers.

Exactly. or a rookie like Vandenburg. I think our supporters look down on depth players who may not seem as gifted. but the new coaching dept are developing later draft picks and rookies. So much is mental and I think blokes at 18 can be very immature in general life and can develop a lot in the next few years and settle a bit. this can reflect in their football. winning a VFL B and F is nothing to look down upon.

we believe he is worth at least pick 6. otherwise we would have gone to the draft.

absolutely, even moreso if they have a poor year and don't look like improving.

Totally agree. I think when talent isn’t fulfilled many just trot out the ‘not training hard enough’ despite little evidence from training he isn’t going 100% Watching every game closely I see a talent who gets elite numbers for a half forward (you can back him in for 20 possies), a player with little confidence when shooting for goal and a player without the tank to play as an on baller. He doesn’t quite have that acceleration I heard about as a junior either. I think like Ablett he will have that breakout year when he simply gets more of the ball, not being more exciting. Even if he just gets his kicking confidence up (e.g Hawks finals was sublime at times) he will be better than Robbie Gray. But will he ever become an on baller? Hmmm there are comparisons to Martin but he was doing major midfield minutes at the same stage. Perhaps he just wont have the tank.I’d like to see him play wing more and have more ability to run and carry.

No. No and No.

More than a couple of seasons in most cases. sometimes a decade. Lets look at Judd v Kennedy and Masten. carlton clearly happy first couple of years and streets ahead. Kennedy comes good and looks like Carlton in front but the gaps is closing. Weagles lose a grands final, Kennedy poor. Well Carlton probably won that deal right ? then Judd has to retire early, and now a few years later Kennedy is pivotal in a premiership win. Weagles win the trade in my opinion. And it only took 11 years to work it out !!

Collingwood desperately wanted May but he chose Melbourne.