Bay Riffin

did you watch him all year ? he's a shadow of the player he was. his last 2 years are hardly a $700k player.

Why is JVR deemed a fail?. Hes well ahead of Mihocek at the same age and i expect him to be just as good or better. he lost confidence this year but thats ok, most players go through that. Weideman was a bust and yes Jefferson to me doesnt look like making it.

so Larkey and Treacy were 'late in the draft'. 2 out of 20. a bit of needle in a hay stack strategy looking at the data.

I agree we caved in. the tail was wagging the dog. noone predicted the drop off by both players, but Oliver especially was a poor kick even at his best and can only play midfield, so it was too big a contract.

ummm what ? looking at the coleman medal top 10 this year im trying to find one that came 'late in the draft'. even top 20.

well that was a waste of a conversation

Develop beyond the midfield ? Clayton cannot play anywhere but midfield. He was terrible in the backline, and as a forward is a shocking kick.

who do yoiu think ? Clarry is one the phone minutes after. Do you think its coaches?

I've been a huge fan but you cannot convince me he now prepares to the same level as even up to 2023. I hope he gets his fitness and prep right for 2026 but like Trac he's dropped off significantly. being a top 5 paid player in the league leaves us hamstrung unfortunately. and appears untradeable.

pick 11 in a weak draft and will be pushed back a number of picks as we know. hes absolutely worth pick 11. cough up or weagles take him in the preseason draft.

A real positive to end the season with. I can see him being a Blake Acres type wingman but perhaps more damaging forward. Aerially very strong and nice kick.

agreed. i was surprised how poor he was. definite gun kick when given room, but when the heat was on his kicking and decision making was very ordinary.

we have that pain now. in games we look all over the shop in how we position ourselves as a team. Right up until that second last game against hawthorn. watching it live you'd think we've never trained together and got cut apart.

talls, especially defenders get robbed in these awards.

imagine without all these frees. Casey would be in front.

frankston using the hawthorn techniques to get vital frees

didnt look that fit with pies players roaming everywhere a couple nights ago.

watching the first quarter against the giants, they were getting the best umpiring run ive seen all year. never seen a side go into a contest ducking and lowering their body as much as the hawks. shame umpires are so poor now they get away with it.

Our first quarter and tackling all day was pathetic. We need a week on the tackling bags. Do that against the pies and it will be a disgraceful end to the season, and its all attitude to at least turn up !!

why is that ? he looks a great pick up. right now we are 7th last so with academies Essendon wont even get a top 10 pick. And that in a draft considered to be weak.

word is there is zero interest in Oliver. There is something wrong. After almost a full season he seems less fit, less acceleration and confidence is very low. i find it hard to believe he is living by the same standards this year as in his B and F years.

agreed. that and taking Windsor off the ground for one of our slowest, Spargo. Exactly what Ross Lyon would have wanted. they played witches hats in the last quarter. Premierships players, seasoned experienced players who were witches hats. unforgiveable.

Maynard and Cripps getting off was just plain nonsense. If this doesnt get up on appeal its a disgrace.

We had a good run no doubt, but no draft busts? hardly. 2016 was all busts except Mitch Hannan who played 50 games before delisting. I do agree it was a good run 2017 onwards but we still had busts such as Rossman, Nietschke, Kyle Dunkley. It was great recruiting.

well if we aren't that bad, lets win a chunk of games to finish the season. Then go into next season with genuine hope.