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One would hope if freo was off the table he might reconsider in the short term, really I don’t understand his rush. Dees in the frame for multiple flags, the money and deal with still be there in 2 years. Who is his manger really think they are giving him bad advise unless there is some extenuating circumstances we aren’t aware of

Wc will split pick 2 if he nominated them, no way they will they trade out of the first round assuming the afl would even allow it, best bet would be they split this years pick 2 into 5-6 or something to that effect, we would get one of them and next years first probably round pick 7-10 when it’s all done.

Exactly the Kelly deal with the best parallel in recent years. If only Jackson would give us 1-2 more years we could work on a better deal. The reason cats were able to get that deal was wc had effectively 2 years to come up with the picks.

With the rumour of rankine turning down 800k a year from GC what does that mean for our negotiations with Pickett who I’d argue is better, we certainly can’t afford another player at that price.

So with the 12 day concussion protocol is Papley 100% out if we play Thursday or could they down grade it on Monday

Saints just lack polish, should be winning this

Last year it is was 2v3 Friday and 1v4 on Saturday. With the other 2 games on Saturday and Sunday day

Difference is that was for top place, blues probably won’t even make finals, if we play like that vs cats, swans or pies it’s game over

Not a chance based on tonight that we beat lions, we have learned nothing from last week

That the issue, we need something to go our way to win, completely different to last year. Where it was the opposite

We are no better than a 8-5 side

Game over time to start planning for next year

Hate to say I didn’t see then happening but it was all to obvious once we made no changes

Definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and expecting different results

Wrap him in a bow and send him over, assuming Jackson is going

I’d take Grundy he is still one of the premier rucks in the league if fit and I don’t believe any of his injuries are debilitating. Just a question of at what price. If pies are willing to cover some of the contract and not require much in the way of picks then I’m all for it. If we could get him by paying 650k and a 2nd round pick I think that is a win.

Don’t see us finishing top 4 now, we probably beat blues and loose to lions meaning we finish 5th making a flag extremely unlikely, not that we would deserve it. We haven’t beaten probably the 3 main contenders in Cats, Swans or Pies this year, hard to see us going through at a minimum 2 of them of on a way to a flag when we haven’t all year.

The fwd line didn’t get 100 points scored against them for the 2nd time in 3 weeks, this is a defensive problem. If we are needing to score 100+ to win games we have already lost.

Hibberd and ANB both should be put in a hole to never be seen again. Bring in Bedford and Harmes

We are toast I think, pies evened out the contest which was our advantage, now they getting more supply they over run us

Seeing pies in person shows me why they have won 10 in a row, such a hard running team, they might be getting smashed round the ball but you can’t deny they know when to get on the bike. If they outlast us we might get overrun

Would make sense, but in that case y are the dogs after Lobb and not him. You would assume if he was on the table at a price there would be some interest from someone already and the media would be talking about. I’m just hoping we have someone in the pipeline, what time of year did the rumours start with Steven May and Jake Lever.

Didn’t we already try that earlier in the year, feel like weid has been tried in every possible combination and none have worked. Time to just face facts Weid isn’t going to make it and it’s time to cut out losses and try someone different

Feel like the best proxy for Jackson I’ve seen is Paddy Ryder who won an Anzac medal as a young ruck after taking over due to injury mid game. Not dissimilar to Jackson in the grand final last year during the 3rd qtr. Also handy as a resting fwd but not to the point he could play as a genuine fwd full time. It’s what makes Freo throwing big money at Jackson so bizarre when they arguably have the best young ruck already in Darcy. Surely they have other needs to address first. Jackson will probably go ok as fwd but you really want to be playing him as a 1st ruck to get full value and in a few years that would naturally happen at dees. At Dockers baring injury he might never get the chance.

Not sure how we make him stay if he nominates freo, our only bargaining chip is a game of chicken where we risk getting nothing and hope he grudgingly signs than risk going in the draft and ending up somewhere else. Best forget any ideas we even get back what he cost in a pick 3 in any trade let alone more. The best we can hope for is freos first this year and next. There won’t be any star players coming back our way.