hemingway

Time to move on. I am more interested in current and future postings about football. Most of the time posts reflect a variety of opinions that are worth reading. The Essendon drug saga was a case in point. Sure it dragged on to saturation point, but there were many well informed and intelligent views expressed on this the matter. However, material life is temporary and posters life on this site is temporary. People come and people go. However, I suspect that many lose patience and depart this site due to the ridicule and at times trivial criticisms of others. It's just a waste of time. I have never met Saty nor do I wish too. Assuming he has left this site for greener pastures its time to forget him. He seems to me just an ordinary guy who had his faults but was trying to do the right thing by posting training reports. Some liked them some didn't. . But it really is a waste of time to spend time talking about the past and dredging up the same old stuff. This is of course part of the deal with social media. If you don't like it don't use it. However, with Saty or whatever name his goes under its time to forget the past and move on. Forgive and forget.

Agree OD, absolutely done to death. There is really nothing that has not been said many times in many different ways, but is all amounts to the same thing, over and over and........

Very discrete Nut, who would that be, owner of a large shopping centre in Chadstone? Very well disguised. not even ASIO could work that out. My school never had millionaire parents let alone billionaire parents. In fact the rich kids distinguished themselves by having scalextric car sets, only one in my grade. Oh yes, one kid's parents had a swimming pool.

true OD thanks for your balance and common sense.

I find it hard to believe that an ex Scopus student is on this site. Would have thought they were way too smart. I thought they were all brain surgeons, rabbis, successful businessmen or checking out their next investment property.

Agree, he has the potential to be a great pick-up. Looking forward to seeing his attack on the ball and pace.

Jetta had a disappointing 2015. Whether he is a permanent player in 2016 will be a reflection and an indicator of our improvement. He has his limitations and I can't see him holding down a spot in a more offensive attacking side that starts to gets it act together.

As well as past foot problems, the name Weideman and the MFC do not go. They are polar opposites. Like linking the name Barassi or Flower with Collingwood. Call me old fashioned but any association would end badly . Important that we maintain proper standards here and give thought to the long history with our mortal enemy. Very bad karma to select Weideman..

Lots of non MFC players fall below my radar. I am amazed at all those Demonlanders who know so much stuff about players from other clubs. Hats off to you. Bugg's highlights on the MFC site are exciting. An aggressive and competitive left footer with pace and footy instincts. He looks a natural. I love the fact that we are getting players with that aggressive streak.

True indeed, however, you can be a dummy and still have common sense as well as proper standards of personal behaviour, You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know right from wrong.

I was feeling a little underwhelmed however this is against hoping for a "big fish". However, I am reassured after seeing the final wash-up. As others have commented, we have a group of blokes who show that they know what they are doing. They have the skills, know how and ability to get the best result. I have wondered about Mahoney, but this draft has shown that he is an intelligent and competent operator. He is clearly no dummy. As with other football matters this year, there are no damning media stories about us. Our guys clearly have done their homework, have a unified view and keep their cards close to their chest. What a difference from the past. Mahoney's comments in today's media reflect a realistic view of our position and what we can hope to achieve. You can see that we are slowly and surely building a list that has the potential to grow into something better. I have never felt so confident that we have a footy club that is going places. .

Yes he is. My nagging concern is that Collingwood never willingly let go top players or players with the potential to become top players, but they are prepared to let go players with deficiencies.

Our judgement call on players is usually based on potential. Many players seem to have potential but are not able to translate that into consistent good form at Casey or at AFL level. They get dropped back to Casey but are not able to dominate at that level. It is hard to justify a return to the AFL without consistent good form at VFL level or outstanding form on the training track. I reckon 5 or 6 years is long enough to gauge if a person is worth persisting with. After 5 or 6 years, the football club can hardly be said to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

You have a way with words BB. So eloquent.

I am glad you know who he is. I did not know he had any best days or any days at all.

I think he could have very good foot skills, but he is lazy in his execution and loses concentration. Not alone there.

ashdemons22 seems to have more authenticity than DTJ. And more imagination. You need to market yourself a bit better.

Yes you have said too much Ash. Very brave man. Many Demonlanders are now in a lather and will be in an excited state over coming days.. This is either the greatest call of all time or will be embarrassing. And you know how Demonlanders can turn and eat their own.

Yes that is a fair point. There was a leap in my logic

Whether we keep or trade Toumpas is naturally a judgement call. He clearly has talent, however, he is a slow developer. Like many others. Will he develop into a top-line AFL player? Maybe. He has been restricted by injury. Also, he has not had much game time to develop confidence in his own game and that of his teammates. There are others (you know the ones) who selectors have persevered with despite indifferent form and low possession count. Toumpas is one of those guys who has got something. But how long do you wait? That is the question. In two years time, he could be an established top-line player or still be a fringe player. What I do know is that the MFC has to be hard headed in its decision. There are clearly project players (Max King) that can be allowed time to develop. However you cant have too many young players that are on the long term development list. The MFC has to develop the best team possible in the shortest possible time. I would not trade Toumpas for another young player that needs development time. i would trade him for a player ready to go.

Perhaps a short term deal was proposed by the Dees and rejected. I agree that a 2 year deal would make more sense. A little easier for the Hawks when their list is so deep.

No doubt old chap but the values are just as important. Would the Hawthorn crowd have chanted Cyril's name so loudly if he had done a Frawley? More importantly what is your favourite Scotch ?

Warmed my heart to read Col's statement. A humble guy. This heartfelt comment is what all supporters want to hear from their players but in today's cattle market very rarely get to hear or read. Call me old fashioned but if loyalty completely disappears then the game will be much the poorer. It is encouraging to hear the sense of belief that players like Hogan and Garland have in our players, club and direction. This spoken belief sustains me. I was thinking on Sat that James Frawley might be happy and also lucky to play in a premiership side, but it never seems quite the same as for the one club player.

Simply a fantastic guy to have around a footy club. Great news and makes his delisting a little less disappointing....although I think we could have used him on the field. Very happy though he is staying with the Dees.

What a good idea. and a lets get David Hale thread as well.