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He's 185cm, only 1cm shorter than Tyson and Petracca. Hardly a midget.

Mate ideally we'd have all our players on 350k, all playing for the love of the jumper. But reality says if you want a good player to cross over to your club you need to pay them decent coin. We've done it in the past and there's no doubt that if we were desperate to land Prestia we'd offer him big money. Not stupid money, but big money. If Fyfe declared himself available do you think we'd say to him "come to the Dees Nat, we'll only give you $400k but you may get to play in a premiership"?! If youre desperate to sign a great player from another team you have to pay him like a great player.

But Adam the bottom line is if we desperately wanted him like we have for the past 2-3 years we'd be getting him. Why would any player, much less one whose entire family are mad Melbourne supporters, choose richmonds list over ours? It's blindingly obvious we've cooled on him. If we were desperate to land him we'd be paying him what he wants like Richmond are.

A former pick 2, captain of the club who's been debilitated by injuries and hasn't done a full pre-season in 3 years versus pick 80. It's really not a difficult decision. Deserves a one year deal to see if a proper pre-season can get him right. It's not like we're choosing between him and a potential next Jack Viney. Of course he may never get back to what he was but there's so much more potential in Jack Trengove than there is in a pick 80 in this years draft.

I can't stand the little rat but I'd have boomer for a season. He'd immediately become our best small forward. Still playing very good footy.

Jason Taylor? Hasn't got too many wrong has he?!

Hate it. Hate it. Our second round pick is more than fair.

Yeah I would've preferred any of Kennedy, Matt Jones, Salem or Trengove than the two mids that have come in but I don't see them at training or most of the games in the 2's...

Doesn't Mayes play for Brisbane mate?

Watts no chance. 3rd tall forwards don't win Brownlows, even exceptional ones. Viney is our best chance to win one in the next 5 years. In terms of the original question asked, I'd go 1. Petracca, 2. Oliver, 3. Brayshaw. Love all three.

Dawes and Kennedy weren't first rounders were they?

Mate I'm purely talking off-field, not on. It was the Paul Gardner board that nearly killed the club. In a lot of ways it was the Stynes/McLardy board that saved it, and put the building blocks in place for our current success. They had an absolute mountain of debt to clear which they did, negotiated some excellent sponsorship deals, moved the club from Junction Oval to AAMI Park and generally steadied the ship off-field. The board was made up of quality Melbourne people who were all leaders of their industries. The likes of Russell Howcroft, Guy Jalland and Peter Spargo are unbelievably clever and capable people. Calling that board incompetent just shows you're tarring the board with the same brush as the failed footy department.

Yep exactly. Complete unnecessary pot shot at a bloke who is one of the most passionate Dees men I know, a reluctant president who only stepped up when one of his best friends died. And despite presiding over a period of on-field failure he dedicated an unfathomable amount of hours in trying to turn the club around, often at the expense of his own business, purely for the love of it. As TGP said, completely misplaced sentiments.

Strongly disagree.

Vince, although less reliable lately, miskicks about 1 in 20. Hogan has many, many strengths but his long-range kicking isn't one of them. Not sure how even you could possibly argue with that.

Yes you're on the right track - the hard evidence he's produced on game days.

For someone who can't take any criticism at all, you pick an extraordinary amount of unnecessary fights.

I've watched the last ten minutes 7-8 times I reckon

I'm sure I'll be in the vast minority here but for me our appalling lack of on-field success under Neeld was as much, if not more, of an indictment on the playing group at the time as it was on him as a coach. Yes he may have gone too hard too early, but it's AFL football, if you're not prepared to hear some home truths and work your arse off then you're in the wrong game.

Not when we've already got a surfeit of inside midfielders and a dearth of decent KPD's

You must be beside yourself with Weid debuting and Oliver coming back into the side as well

Haha no toys thrown out of the pram here mate, I've been called much worse!

Yeah I worded that last post badly, was tired. No backtrack on anything in the first post. I meant he said he wanted to come back to Victoria to be close to family, Geelong was the ultimate for him but Melbourne is only an hour up the road so he was happy to come to us if Geelong didn't work out. Anyway, me posting this seems only to have angered people so if I ever get any info again I'll keep it to myself!

I'd never met Dangerfield before, I admit that. I'm mates with one of the Geelong players who I went to school with and I had a round with him, another school mate and Dangerfield. As a Dees supporter I just asked him the question as there were those rumours going round back then that we were heavily into him. He just wanted to get back to Victoria to be closer to family, that's what he said to me. I'm not claiming to be mates with Danger, maybe he was just messing with me, I'm just relaying what he said. I'm not in the know, I don't purport to have inside sources within the club. Anyway, I'm hitting the hay. Dazzle and Ethan you're two of my favourite posters on here so not interested in getting in a slanging match with you. If you think I'm bullsh1tting that's fine with me, I won't lose any sleep.

This was end of 2014, when the Crows were still hopeful they'd be able to get Danger to extend his deal during 2015 so didn't feel under any enormous pressure to get rid of him.