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Daniel Cross too.

His lack of size (173cm, 68kg) would have thrown the recruiters off, I think. What we've learnt from JKH so far is that there's no substitute in this game for class. IMO, it won't be long before these types start getting drafted in the first round again.

Like most, I don't think he should have a case to answer. I hope we go there tomorrow all guns blazing with a clear defence. It will need to be better than the Trengove effort a few years back, when our defence was Kelly O'Donnell (or some other no-name assistant from the club) "the club told Jack it was a perfect tackle." Very sloppy. On the bright side - Deledio probably won't be there when we play Richmond. He was offered 1 game and they have the Bye this week.

They are elite players in that position, there are also players like Kyle Cheney getting games at Hawthorn. Terlich's disposal errors are a worry (so much so, that I wanted him dropped after Carlton game) ... but his approach suits the Roos gameplan. He's a keeper for now.

At the moment, he reminds me of a poor man's Simon Black, with a touch of Scott Pendlebury. Now I don't expect him to reach the level of either (we are talking about two of the best players this century), but he's playing exactly the way you hope a Top 3 pick would. I'm a big fan.

I'll answer my own question Average score conceded, Rd 1-7 2013: 136 Average score conceded, Rd 1-7 2014: 78 So on average, we are conceding 58 points less every game than at the same time last year. Last year, every team from Rd 1-7 kicked 100+ points against us. This year, that has happened only once. We are still bottom 4 on talent but we are miserly, and as Roos said, a good defensive structure will allow us to win games like today. I love Paul Roos footy.

How do you gauge this? Pederson and Jetta were good today, yet most had them labelled 'not AFL standard' not long ago. There are senior roles there for most of the guys at Casey.

How does our avg points against compare this year to Rounds 1-7 last year?

Our first win in South Australia after 13 years and 17 straight losses, many of which were in excess of 50 points. The Crows of 2014 may not be world-beaters but for me this is a landmark achievement that will do wonders for the confidence of the team (especially the older ones).

I think Al Clarkson would have something to say about that, but our guy is right up there. We're not easy beats anymore.

Great highlights, and how about the leadership shown by the big fella when Watts neutralised Dangerfield over the boundary line late in the game. I knew we'd be hard to beat from that point. Passion!

6 - Dawes: it was a team effort but this guy was far and away BOG, IMO. The goal-kicking, the presence, the tackle, the leadership. Amazing. 5 - Tyson 4 - Viney 3 - JKH 2 - Terlich 1 - Cross Apologies to most of the team. One of the most satisfying victories of the past decade for mine (I know there haven't been many). To beat the Crows on their own turf in front of 50,000 of their feral fans, delightful.

Disappointing to see Salem sub again, although it looks a clear strategy from Roos and co, young players will be eased into it regardless of early form (JKH got the same treatment early on).

Fox Footy coverage starts at 4.30pm. The game itself is due to start at 4.10pm. Are we going to miss the start of the game or will there be a "red button" available? I'm new to Foxtel this year.

Most in the footy world suspect Scully signed with them at the end of 2010. At that time, he was coming off 400+ disposals in his debut season and runner-up in the Rising Star. What GWS probably didn't bank on where his limitations then (skinny, average footskills, overhead marking, goal-kicking) would still be limitations 5 years down the track. Sometimes young players appear to have high ceilings at draft time simply don't end up improving much on their teenage years. Scully is an example of that, IMO.

Sidebottom was a good get at 11 though. I think if we had our time again and got a free pass to select anyone from that top 10, I'd go for Hartlett.

I can accept that injuries happen, setbacks happen and young players like Hogan need to be treated carefully. That's footy. What I don't accept or like is that the club were clearly aware of the setback at the time of Misson's last injury update (and the time this thread was made). Instead of addressing the issue and informing the members of his condition, they conveniently leave Hogan out of the report altogether, instead letting us find out the bad news from Damian [censored] Barrett several days later. Not really good enough...

Really like Salem, I remember reading somewhere that the Hawks were big fans before draft time, can see why. He's looks a Hawthorn-type, hard at it, balanced, and left-footed. Looking forward to seeing more of him. Roos is doing a pretty good job, there's no way we would have lost to a team like Sydney by 30 points this time last year. But I have to wonder how often we'll be able to kick a winning score.

6 - Lynden Dunn (easily our best tonight, IMO) 5 - Bernie Vince 4 - Nathan Jones 3 - Matt Jones 2 - Daniel Cross 1 - Cam Pederson No votes, but encouraging signs from Salem in the last quarter too.

Drafting in those days (1995) was still a work in progress, it had nowhere near the time, resources, staff etc that we have today. And even now we still get errors.

Firstly, say what you want about Barrett (I can't stand the guy) but he got it right originally on this story and I'm going to guess he's bang on again here. The lack of update this week from the club and the stagnant 4-5 week return date makes me think this. I very much doubt it's career threatening, but he is OOC end of next year. You can bet the WA clubs will be all over him. That makes me more worried.

This wouldn't surprise me, but then why are they continuing to put forward the "4 weeks" on official injury reports. If his back is cooked they should just tell us.

Realistically, I think we are tracking OK. Not great, but OK. Let's not forget just how bad we were 12 months ago, I certainly haven't. However I worry that we haven't faced any of the REAL powerhouses and bogey teams yet (Freo, Geel, Hawks, Kangaroos, Coll), but I can see us snagging a couple of wins here and there against the others. 5-17 and a much-improved percentage is probably the best we can hope for.

I definitely think something is up. There's no way Burgan and Misson simply forgot, especially when many people including me would be watching that video solely for a Hogan-update. My assumption is that Burgan was instructed by the club not to ask any questions about Hogan. Either he has had a setback or they know he's not going to appear for a long time. Agreed that they should just put 'indefinite' rather than teasing us with 4 weeks. Misson was having a massive lend of us with his original quote about "not ruling him out of Rd 1".

It should work out quite nicely. Jonesy (and I suppose Grimes) will be slowing up about 4-5 years from now, perfect time for a 24-25 year old Viney to take over. I said it last week and will say it again. There's not a single kid from that draft I'd swap Viney for now. He's not necassarily the most skilled or most athletic player, but you can't teach what he's got. Gun.