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The puzzling things about the advocates for only pick 5 from Fremantle is the idea that Hogan has somehow gone down in value since he was drafted. Picks 3 and 14 for Hogan, Dom Barry and Pick 20. Hogan has gone on to win the rising Star Award and kick 152 goals from 71 games. With the draft still a lottery, surely Hogan's value has increased over the past 6 years...

I can't imagine how Rankine would be available by Freo's/our first pick...

Exceptional tackler! But can you remember the last holding the ball awarded to him?

Not a particularly memorable stat... I honestly can’t remember the last time Oliver or Brayshaw did either. I can remember when he kicked 47 goals from 20 matches, won 36 free kicks whilst giving away only 16, pulled in 125 marks and 365 disposals all while averaging over 2 tackles a game as a key position forward.

Coincidently, Martin toured the GWS facilities in 2014...

If Jesse could not run away from the press on that dodgy foot for another two weeks... that’d be great.

Giving him a taste of the scrutiny and pressure of life in a two horse town.

I understand the sentiment and frustration but disagree. He has committed to the club when he signed his last contract extension, it would be manifestly unfair if he honoured that contract, yet we demanded an additional extension on top of the one he's already committed to. There are plenty of players on our list who are out of contract next year, yet we're no demanding an extension from them...

This is an excellent get! There’s a risk there with his medical history, but a potentially huge reward if he can get through it. Great value.

I always find the BnF results to be fascinating. It gives an insight into the values of the coaches and the unseen things that players are asked to do during matches that the fans don’t notice. Jones in second place to round 16 with Oscar in seventh is intriguing and shows their value to those setting the standards and gameplan.

Yeah- he knows he’s gone. Jones demonstrates that he’s diplomatic, articulate, a leader and a decent human being in the way he spoke about Hogan.

Yeah. He’ll never have the Garlett, Davey, Farmer acceleration. Hannan and Spargo get that separation, Petracca tries to use his physicality instead. JKH never seems to have time or space when close to goal.

I think there’s ‘fast’ and there’s AFL small forward ‘fast’. He doesn’t have that lightning burst of speed that allows him to get separation, then time to steady and kick accurately. He has the sort of pace that he can play further up the ground, but seems to struggle for separation when he has a close checking opponent.

Can't imagine why he would want to come back to a club whose supporters have made it abundantly clear that he is utterly despised. The booing of him in the early matches was unlike anything I've ever heard from our supporters.

It's not the specific pick, it's the access to the pool of players. The following 'superstars' were taken between 10 and 20 since 2010: Tom Lynch (11), Brodie Smith (14), Isaac Smith (19), Toby Greene (11), Sam Doherty (12), Devon Smith (14), Brodie Grundy (19), Patrick Cripps (12), Lachie Weller (13), Jake Lever (14), Charlie Curnow (12), Daniel Rioli (15), Tom Doedee (17) Jade Gresham(18), Ryan Burton (19). That just in the 10-20 range and there are plenty more All Australian/ BnF winners outside of that range. This of course doesn't include players that would easily be in our starting 18. Draft picks are generally overrated, but there is some genuine A Grade talent available at pick 10, and we're looking at have 2 picks between 6 and 10.

Great game to watch as an impartial. The better team won on the day. Collingwood has an incredible 15 minutes in the first quarter, but west coast wore them down over the next three. I have no idea why such a big deal is being made of the runner. Had absolutely no impact on the final result: a) terrible kick b) no Collingwood player was going to get near it anyway c) West Coast we’re already all over Collingwood by that stage

When you’re trading for picks, 5 year minimum imho. You can’t judge a player by their output as a 20 year old. Plenty here have called for the heads of Brayshaw, Weideman, Harmes, McDonald x 2. Olivers and Hogans are the exception.

Exactly. You can only truly judge a trade 5-10 years after it’s happened. Regardless of the picks we get, it’s what we do with them that counts.

Whatever the compensation may be, it’s clear to me from Jones’ comments that Hogan is leaving. I have full trust in the club to maximise the compensation, but I hope we don’t cough-up too much for May. Any compensation pick we send to Fold Coast will hopefully net is May and KK at least.

Certainly getting most out of himself and won’t retire wondering what could have been. I wonder if he might be trialled down back next year? Doesn’t have the speed or smarts to be an AFL small forward, struggles with the pace and skills in the midfield... could he be trialled as a small defender in the mould of Neville Jetta..?

No crutches at the Brownlow...

Rate him! May + Kolo for pick 10 (should the Hogan trade eventuate)

I think Wanganeen played back pocket in 93...

Ive always rated him. He would (or should be cheap) and would happily have him taking Bugg/Kent’s spot on our list.

It's a shame that he hasn't fulfilled his early promise, but I've never been convinced that he'd be a consistent high level performer. Form and attitude have held him back, but in recent years it's been his body that's let him down. Maybe a new environment will see that luck change. We wont be getting a decent draft pick for him, 4th... maybe 3rd if we're very lucky. To tell you the truth, I would have done a straight swap for Goddard or Freeman, but they've been delisted so that's no help now. Billy Longer? Jack Lonie?