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Too soon.

Dangerfield is happy for one of the ‘best’ players to clean him up. So Lachie Neale is welcome to punch him in the face, without any recriminations.

Yes. Yes please.

If we were to split the pick, I would very happily hand one of them over form Laird. 25 years old, 2 x All Australian, Best and Fairest winner, prolific ball winner and good user of the ball out of defence... sounds like what we've been crying out for for 10 years.

Whilst I don't want Frost to go, I would be interested to see what could come back the other way...

I understand the people who are saying he doesn't necessarily address our need for outside speed. His arrival could free up someone whose pace and disposal isn't being used to full effect (ie. Melksham) into a more damaging position. However, even if he dislodges one player from our current best 22, then he improves our team. I'm very happy to have any quality player (especially a free agent) who wants to join our club.

Adds another layer to an absolute tragedy.

I rate him very highly as a player and was wrapped when he came to the club as he possess the polish and outside-skill that we've been missing. It's very concerning to see the effect that some fairly innocuous knocks have had on him.

We've had Leading Teams in on a few occasions I believe, even as far back as Neeld era. They were in over the 2016 pre-season, we then hired their facilitator (Jim Plunkett) as our General Manager, People Performance & Culture at the end of the year. So 'Leading Teams' philosophy has been there for the last three seasons. https://www.leadingteams.net.au/jim-plunkett-join-dees/ https://www.leadingteams.net.au/leading-teams-at-the-melbourne-football-club-pre-season-camp/

Moloney and Sylvia.

Would this be our first free agent signing since Shannon Byrnes?

Hore is a very good mature-age pick-up. Goodwin seemed reluctant to play him and Lever in the same backline, so hopefully there’s a role for him down there in the future. Lockhart did exceptionally well for someone with no AFL preseason or conditioning. To step straight in and play as well as he did, showed he’s got some talent and heart. No surprises that he ran out of puff though. All the kids... was good for three of them to get some games experience. We’ll know more in 2 years.

I’m really struggling watching on the TV. How could the two clubs not want to fix this??

Is this true? I’ve heard it mentioned but no idea where it comes from. Clubs are in contact with dozens of players during the year; is the suggestion that we never once spoke with him?

He's a bit of an enigma - definitely an untapped talent with all the makings of a very good player. To this stage, he has been comfortably 'good'. I've been keen for us to go after him as a free agent as he would add some much needed class and run to our side. The concern is that in 8 seasons, he's never really cemented a position on the ground. He's played forward, back and wing with some success, but has lacked the consistency and ball-winning ability to be considered a top player. Reminds me a little bit of Jack Watts in that regard.

Ha! That’s a stretch. "Personally, I weighed up a lot, and eventually found some perspective," Jones told the Melbourne website.

Jeebus, it’s not a race. And I suggest if we’re looking for role-models for how to run a club, Adelaide should be close to last on that list.

Very good player. If we spilt the pick, would very happily hand one of them over for him.

A full forward who averages 1 goal and 1 tackle per game? Sign me up!

Yes, they were excellent - no one can argue with that.

Hawthorn hasn’t won a final in four years. The players they’ve brought in are nowhere near the talent that has left. Those that are comparable, are injury prone. They were immense from 2007-15, but their rebuild is a myth and nothing to aspire to. Jones is playing one more year. This is exactly what the club did with Vince in 2018 and Lewis in 2019. There’s no shock or surprise here.

Source for No.5? Also, if Viney is as bad a player as you claim he is, we’d be lucky to get pick 60... May as well keep him then.

My post was saying that Hawthorn made a mistake in cutting Hodge. It was in response to a poster saying we should do what Hawthorn did. Hawthorn acted in haste.

No- it’s one error being viewed in isolation. Cyril Rioli had Hawthorn’s last possession in the 2011 prelim. Turnover. Hawthorn lose by 3 points. Rioli is a terrible player.

Nathan Jones is 31. Hodge is 35. Mitchell was 34 when he left Hawks. Roughead is 32. Lewis is 33. Hawks only wanted to move on one of Lewis and Mitchell as they went 1 and 2 in their BnF the year they left. It was to relieve the salary cap. Both could have easily played on and made the Hawks best 22. Roughead was cooked 12 months ago. Completely cooked. Hawthorn kept him on the list for leadership and because of what he means to the club and supporters. Hodge has clearly been a huge part of Brisbane’s success. Who would you rather have young players look up to- Luke Hodge or Ben ‘pinchy’ Stratton. Hawthorn erred in cutting all 3 at the same time; their list is running on fumes and their half-rebuild is being papered over by Clarkson’s nous. Jones is younger than all of them and is playing better football.