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Good on both of them. Never heard a bad word uttered about either of them and they certainly got the most out of the talent that they have.

Butcher was a lock for pick 2, twelve months out from the draft. Top 3 going into the U18 season were Scully, Butcher and Lucas... Things can change very quickly with these kids.

Young followed by Kemp please.

Does such a player exist full-stop..? 50 goals from a third tall seems like a lot. What are the 1 and 2 kicking??? (6 teams in the league had 1 player kick over 50 this year. No teams had more than 1)

And that's his choice - but just like any draftee, he goes to whichever club selects him. If he wants to behave like a free agent, he needs to earn that right through another contract with GCS. If he wants to enter the draft he can: a) Go to the club that selects him. b) Play a couple of years in the local leagues, then try again. I'm not just saying this as a Melbourne supporter - it is akin to draft tampering to attempt to scare away other clubs. The integrity of the draft depends upon honest engagement with the process.

Because you draft a player who will hopefully play for the next 15 years, not someone who will step in and peak from year one (palmer, Rich, Lewis Taylor). Losing most/all of your first year is not the end of the world. Cripps managed just 3 games due to injury, Max King was drafted with pick 4 following a knee reco and Hogan and Petracca played no games due to back and knee injuries. Draft for the long term. There's also nothing to suggest that he won't be back to his best when recovered. If it were a broken leg, I'd have big reservations, but there are plenty of examples to draw on where players have returned from knee injuries to have exceptional careers. If he's there at pick 8, I say we grab him with both hands.

Having a player of Martin’s talent fall into our lap is nothing short of a miracle. We have to take advantage of this. The memory is still fresh of Collingwood bullying Luke Ball through to pick 30 in the ‘09 draft. People have been calling for the club to grow a pair and take a stand... this is our opportunity.

Was a complete blindside. We were going to select him in the Rookie Draft, Freo took him in the preseason draft which took place just before it.

Jack Hannath. Burst into tears at training when given the news Fremantle had drafted him.

If he nominates for the PSD. If he does, we should definitely take him. If he nominates for the National... not worth pick 3 or 6. Shades of Luke Ball.

So now we get in Jack Martin’s ear...

The 'pick points' comparison is ridiculous in any context outside of matching an academy or father-son pick. Suns would accept the actual pick 13 for Martin, not some combination of later picks that 'equals' pick 13.

I'm not sure I understand the angst on this one either... if he's assessing 2019 output, seem just about right.

Outside pace.

I’ve no interest in any of GWS’s picks in next year’s draft. If they want to move up to pick 3, then I’d be wanting 6 and a player. Unfortunately, I can’t see a player being traded this late in the game without being vetted.

Gonna get in early for what is going to be a very big thread... Huge win for the club! Masterstroke!

Last year we traded away a 23yo key forward for a 26yo key defender. Nothing to do with this years deal and Goodwin’s job was not under any threat at all. No panic. No trying to ‘save his job’.

So let's get snooty when it actually happens, rather than having meltdowns like in the 'Petracca requests trade to Geelong' thread..

Nothing to do with Goodwin trying to save his job - this is a long term deal. Bringing in another highly rated 17/18 year old will do little for our prospects next year. The real benefits of this, if we draft well, will be in 4 - 5 years from now. You keep going on about Goodwin being in a panic and trying to save his job, but this deal has little short-term value. If we trades these picks tomorrow for two 27 year olds, then you might have a point... but that hasn't happened yet.

Draftees aren't going to be a quick fix to anyones problems. Langdon, Tomlinson and better luck with injuries improves us immensely for 2020. This is better for the club.

I like it. If recruiters are spooked by Brodie Kemp's knee injury and he's still there at pick 8, this'll be a huge win. Kemp then takes next year to recover and hit's 2021 as a new top 5 recruit. Failing that - Caleb Serong. Pick 3 on Young and we'll be well set.

There has been consistent talk of GWS needing to get a 'low pick' to get Green and a high quality draftee. If they stop where they are, it more or less places his value at pick six (or we have offered too high a price for our pick).

Joe Daniher was an All Australian 2 years ago and has a similar injury history to Hogan, who Fremantle traded in with a serious navicular injury. The trade value you've proposed is essentially the same. I'd prefer Daniher in the team.

This is one of those 'high risk, high reward' trades that some people complain we never do. If it comes off, we've gained a gun player as the steak knives in the May trade. If it doesn't, people criticise the risky trade and bemoan us not taking a safer route.