ManDee

It staggers me that the EFC have told their players that they have nothing to worry about with regard to the supplements program. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-players-shrug-off-cancer-talk-20140704-zswcf.html Is this the same EFC that have no records about what the players were given? No records, drugs from Mexico, drugs from unmarked vials, thousands of injections but the EFC have the temerity to tell their players they have no risk as a result of the program. How gullible do the EFC think we are? I am outraged!

PJ_12345 You pose this question "If you think that's how the word bummers is used correctly then I implore you to walk up to someone and call them that. Even better, please do it on a Saturday night, on Kings Street, preferably to a group of guys or bouncers." That is not how bummers was used, see above "program at the bummers" surely you can see this is a reference to the club. Your context has nothing to do with the context of this thread. Essendon are the bombers. Bummer has negative connotations (NOT SEXUAL) in this context It is a clever play on words to transpose bombers with bummers. If you are offended I think that is your issue. I am usually the first one to jump onto the moral outrage train if someone on here is inappropriate, but language should not be reduced because one person misinterprets a correctly used word. I would never use bummers to describe a group of guys in the street. But on here describing Essendon I think it fair. If that offends you please block me.

I know he didn't have to prove it. I don't think travelling to the Northern Hemisphere is/was a disgrace. Poorly timed yes. My response has been to "the end of Vlad's reputation" line you used earlier #6008 which I thought was wrong. But I am happy to disagree.

I think you just did what you are complaining about.

Sorry bout that, I stand corrected.

My brother, who knows the family, told me that Scotts father fell out with Neil Balme (correction - Neale Daniher) because Balme (Daniher) kept playing Scotty injured. The dad said "play him again injured and he will never play for Melbourne again". And so it happened. Now this is hearsay but I believe my brother. Edit:- Must not get my Neils Neales confused.

I don't disagree, I think he had a very good idea of what was going on. But could he prove it? I say no, and therefore he did not know, he suspected.

What's the problem? Don't all Melbourne supporters drive Beemers now? I thought its was compulsory, well it is in Mansfield.

I was told that Fred B has underworld contacts. He may even be a honey thief!

I disagree. I think he was trying to do the right thing by helping EFC. I do not think he would be stupid enough to break the law, so he would have operated in a manner that was legal but let EFC know that they should clean up their act. e.g. Listen, there is a club that has been up to no good. If I were that club I would clean up my act. The s4it is about to hit the fan, so if it is you guys do the right thing. Hard to type s4it these days,

BB are you suggesting that AD was in the wrong?

AD said he could not have known because he had not been told by ACC. The ACC did not investigate because they knew that they had not told AD. AD most likely presumed it was Essendon and that is not a problem. All this rubbish coming from the EFC is subterfuge. For goodness sake, if AD warned EFC he was trying to do them a favour, and in return Hird & co. want to repay that favour with what could amount to a jail term for AD. This typifies the twisted, delusional belief held at EFC. They behave as if they are the victims in this matter. They are the perpetrators.

Yes bummer was used as a noun, because it is a noun. Bummers is a plural noun. You're sensitivity to this is coming from you. The term bummer or bummers most common usage has no homosexual meaning. To imply that its use in this case has homosexual meaning is patently wrong. I ask you, if you were to describe the EFC would you say they were best described by, a- Often highly destructive in nature, bummers became notorious among Southerners for looting and vandalism, and they did much to shatter the illusion that the Confederate Army was successfully defending its territory on all fronts. - Wikipedia b- Old fashioned UK slang term for a homosexual man. -Urban Dictionary It is nonsensical to describe the EFC by the latter. I think bummers was used correctly.

Not all the evidence was gathered using the questionable process. I think I heard McDevitt say that more evidence has been gathered since the cessation of the AFL joint investigation than during. And that he thought the later evidence should be enough. Edit: McDevitt not Devitt

Thought I was back doing cuisenaire at primary school. But the point is valid, WADA wrote the rule book, the players agreed. WADA will win.

More to the point, lack of administration of the program.

That's the problem cyclops (is that ok?). There is far too much attention paid to the big picture and not enough to the smoke and mirrors. It's a sunny day in France, hardly a cloud in the sky, but young Lord Jimmy is 10,427 miles away, deep in thought. That evil Darth Demetriou has conspired against young, innocent, sweet, talented Lord Jimmy and Jimmy won't stand for it. "Time to launch the countermeasures"' barked Lord Jimmy. So all over the land smoke and mirrors were deployed, with zealots posted to operate them. "Oh the subterfuge", sniggered Lord Jimmy as he rubbed his hands together in glee, for he could afford the best mirrors and smoke in the land, and he was not afraid to use them.

Speaking of loyalty, what do you think $cully will be offered next contract?

See the bummers fly up, up to the Federal Court Gig See the bummers fly See the bummers fly See the bummers fly up. No, bummers is not a homosexual reference. No, fly is not slang for zip fastener No, See is not the third letter in the alphabet. Yes the Federal Court is the Federal Court.

Consider a swap? Mansfield is beautiful this time of year. Plenty of snow on Buller. Sorry I can't lend you the Range Rover, it had to go for the BMW X5. Sad and true.

I want to see Hird standing on a dais one more time. "James Albert Hird we find you guilty, and sentence you to..........insert harsh penalty here................and ban you from attending AFL games, clubs or functions for the term of your unnatural life"

I've been weighing up my options and damn it all, I'll do it! $750,000k pa + incentives to get my team out of the mire, it's worth the pay cut. When do I start?

Damn, on paper that list looks good!

PJ I finally decided to go to your reference, In all seriousness the homosexual angle had not occurred to me, nor do I think it relevant. Note your reference first meaning is:- Urban Dictionary 1. bummer 1. A word describing the misfortune of something or someone. 2. A situation in which no desireable result can occur 3. A negative form of agreement. 4. A response used when the respondee couldn't care less about the topic at hand. 1. Friend 1: My wife left me last night Friend 2: Bummer for you. 2. Man 1: We're surrounded by venomous snakes! Man 2: Wow, this is quite the bummer. 3. Girl: Do you find me attractive? Guy: Bummer 4. Friend 1: It appears that tomorrow is my last day to live. Friend 2: Bummer Urban dictionary's second meaning refers to "Old fashioned UK slang term for a homosexual man." This is not how i would use the term bummer.

Mind you, you and I have come to blows over words in the past. What a bummer.