ManDee

I think the AFL are happy for ASADA to do the hard yards on this. They can be seen to admonish the bad behavior of the EFC but to support the players and club for the good of the competition. I think their position is predictable. I also think James Hird is still in the AFL's guns. I'd be happy to take bets that he never coaches AFL again.

vas te faire encule AFL! - James Hird

With him they buried the muzzle his teeth had kissed, And truthfully wrote the Mother “Tim died smiling.” The last 2 lines of the Wilfred Owen poem SIW Self Inflicted Wound. I cannot help but think, I wonder if James Hird is smiling? EFC suffer at their own hands. No one else is to blame, incompetence is no excuse. The path that EFC took was to gain advantage, to bend the rules to push the boundaries, to cheat. That path has led them here, it is the path they chose to take. Distraction and obfuscation will work no more. If the EFC suffer it is at their own hands, a Self Inflicted Wound. NB: I acknowledge that EFC's actions are inconsequential in comparison to war, but the AFL is not a war, it is a sport and EFC have violated our game. May they die smiling.

They are cheats! They deserve to be punished. It is a good thing when cheats get caught. I think it has a cleansing effect, somewhat like lancing a boil.

You're on fire BB

I hope no one minds, but I had to re-post this.

So does that mean the players might get six months but the club two years? I like the sound of that. So the players would have a restraint of trade action against the EFC and could leave to play for other clubs? Sounds fair to me. The club are the cheats here, the players are victims. (Guilty none the less)

Something smelly has hit the fan. At last. I feel sorry for the players, but feel they should receive the harshest penalty if only for being stupid enough to trust that cheat Hird and his cronies. If this cripples EFC I would be delighted. Lets give them a flogging this weekend. Go Deeeeeees!

A cockroach on his good days Barrett dreams of being a beta-male. He is not even human, he certainly doesn't exhibit the normal traits of one.

You are such a positive chap Machsy. This is the Jesse Hogan injury update forum is it not? Many on here may wonder about Hogans demeanor, my comments were more to do with his apparent happiness. An update on his freedom of movement I thought may bring some happiness, not to you obviously. You are no doubt such an astute observer of sportsmen to state "Of course he's moving without pain" How would you know? Many of the guys actually playing are carrying niggling injuries and managing pain. Have a nice day Mr Negative. Edit- Fix typo.

Saw Hogan at the G before the match. He was with Max King and (Riley I think). They all seemed happy and joking together. Hogan appeared to be moving without pain and in good spirits.

Saty, almost 20 years a grammar schoolboy, you should have tried harder. Yes I know in that instance a majority is over 10 years. Maybe we could add "heave ho we are the Melbourne Demons!"

Rolling the dice is plural. The singular is rolling the die. Otherwise I agree with outs. In - McKenzie Kent & Riley.

I think he is like a cockroach. Will probably survive a nuclear holocaust, scurrying around in the dark wallowing in filth.

Quick on the uptake? He gains pleasure from attempting to undermine MFC. He is the worst kind of journalist (pseudo journalist) he makes stuff up and peddles it as news. We should fight back using his style. ---- It has been suggested that Damian Barrett shares more than a nickname with Rolf Harris.--- No factual basis for this but what the heck that's how he writes.

I noticed that too, it seems to me that the CEO's were more worried about gambling. I want the ASADA stuff to be over, so they can bury the EFC

12 If Tyson leaves (gets injured) you can swap around the numbers then have Hogan or N Jones or if adventurous Cam Pedersen!

Could not agree more. These are my sentiments exactly.

Spencer is in front of Jamar at the same age. Remember Jamar was a late bloomer. Ref :- Fooytwire. http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=12&pid1=2751&tid2=12&pid2=282&type=A&fid1=O&fid2=O

No one would believe that. I think he may have a LisFranc injury leading to bouts of depression. (No I am not having a dig at Mitch)

Collingwood don't have the problem other than white with North, Geelong, StKilda, Pt Adelaide, Fremantle, Sydney, Western Bulldogs at to a lesser extent Carlton. Black with StKilda, Essendon, and Richmond. Other than that no clubs really. Hawthorn yellow only Giants, Richmond, GCSuns, Adelaide, Richmond and Brisbane. No one else would use poo brown.

I don't think this is an issue. If they lost out on the deal they may think they will win the next one. We did not force them to trade , they wanted to. I think both clubs are willing to trade with each other, that is good, they would appear to have plenty of players wanting to move back home. What sensible person would choose to live in Western Sydney. (Scully - I rest my case)