Mickey

Finances aren't the only thing causing the AFL to drag their feet. Tassie doesn't give them anything the don't already get. It doesn't grow the game. You could argue GC and GWS don't either, but they are at least in non-AFL states, so there is that argument. People in Tassie will support a team, regardless of whether it's in Tassie or not.

Knowing our luck, the AFL will rule we need to be in possession of a future first before we can trade our future second... for a future first

Which is why I've only mentioned it in a trade that brings in a future first. 18 and future 2nd for pies future first. I don't know if they'd do it though

I'm not a draft guru by any means, and have very little knowledge of this year's crop. But I wouldn't do that unless there was a standout player at 11. I'd back Taylor to pick two at 18 and 19 than 1 at 11. But trading 18 and future second (lets say it becomes 28) for the Pies first (which realistically could be 6-10) would be a great get.

Will they be in deficit? I didn't think they had a highly rated kid this year. If they trade their 2021 first for, say, our 18 and future second, then they are doing what we've done the last few years; move their first forward a year. Then they can use lesser picks for Daicos next year, without their first being eaten by an early bid. Oh, and we get to deathride them next year, which would be fun

I'd be amazed if Freo would drop 7 places in the first round to move up for 4 in the 2nd and add a very speculative pick 50. I get the points work, but that doesn't really come into play if they are using all the picks to draft, and not to match an Academy pick. 18, 19 and 50 for 11 and 32 is more likely needed to get them to bite, which I think is too much for us. I like the idea of using one of our first rounder to buy back into next years first round. Either Syd or Collingwood, if we can manage it. But an end of first and late 3rd round isn't likely to do it for us. Deanox's option a few posts above may be our best bet.

I agree with this, but it will get to the stage where clubs don't want to trade out of a strong draft anymore. Especially with the discounts for NGAs being removed. That could well be next year.

He did, but he also said, now that they know list sizes, they'll have further discussions. Could be a rookie for depth. Might also find a spot somewhere else as a DFA

For a pick in the 60s, according to Mitch

Maybe, but I'd be disappointed if that's what it ended up being. GWS have shown clubs they can match RFAs. Unless next year is for a UFA, we'll be in trouble

Yeah, I don't like it. Phillips has been out if their team, he's not worth a first and a player, even if one is a salary dump

Would have to be that and a bit more. Reckon they will drop big time next year

God, I hope not with any of those picks.

Which we can always split draft night if our guy looks like sliding e.g last year. I'm loving our pick trading. We never have a future first, but get back into drafts by trading futures.

So we effectively split our future first in to 18 and 19, and swap 25 and some trash for a future second (Could be 30-36 ish). I don't mind it. Could backfire, but at least we are being bold

2 Mahoney - played in Port's 2004 flag Pert - CEO of Collingwood in 2010 Richardson missed the Pies 1990 win after breaking his collarbone the game before.

While it won't be in the same ball park as what Geelong get, we won't be building or funding our new facilities by ourselves. We'll probably be benefiting from a far chunk of Vic Gov money ourselves in the next 18-24 months.

How it started How it's going

I know GC have picks and players to burn, but surely even they won't give up pick 5 when Collingwood is shoving Treloar out the door. Pies would be lucky to get a mid-first round pick

Esava is the classic example of an athlete, not a footballer. Does some amazing things but doesn't have the game sense or the skill.

Have heard this a couple of times. Any idea what the bad history is?

They are in desperate need of a KPF, they'll make room if they have to

Wouldn't surprise to see Collingwood get mentioned now they are out of finals.

That's signings announced three days in a row. I wonder if it will be leading up to Viney's signature