I'm sorry, but I don't understand why everyone is rating Brisbane so highly. Sure, they have a good midfield and the best CHF in the comp but their ruck division is severely lacking, they lack a key defender and they could probably do with another key forward.

Their preseason form hasn't been that great either. I'm not writing them off making finals, but seriously, top 4??!!

On the other hand, I think people are under-estimating Port - they'll be right there again this year.

I dont particularly rate the Lins either..they are neighter great...nor bad.. probably amongst a group of teams I would put us in. A "who knows on the day" type category.

I have a funny feeling Port will slip this year.. they have at times some talent, but are mentally soft. Just my view

Geelong - Boring.

Boring??? If the Cats are boring I must be watching the wrong game, they went out and pumped everyone last year with hard direct footy.

I would love the Dees to be boring like that!!

Geelong

Collingwood

Hawthorn

Port Adel

St Kilda

Fremantle

West Coast

Brisbane

North Melb

Sydney

Essendon

W Bulldogs

Adelaide

Carlton

Melbourne

Richmond

I dont particularly rate the Lins either..they are neighter great...nor bad.. probably amongst a group of teams I would put us in. A "who knows on the day" type category.

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Well, their midfieed is top calibre, and that includes their ruck division (which could be the best in the AFL by seasons end)

They have some great youngsters who actually look better than ours (Adcock, Selwood, Sherman, Leunberger, Rischitelli, Clark, Patful, Hooper, Henderson etc...)

Their forward line could be the best in the game with the return of Bradshaw to join the almighty Jonathan Brown and Jared Brennan

Underrated backline

They are coached by Leigh Matthews

They have a great homeground advantage

Dees finish last with 3 wins. Gather two picks in the top 3. Get that Natanui fella and another gun

Yay! YM's put the kiss of death on someone else for a change, every game for the first 9 rounds he predicted us to "bounce back". I also believe his prediction for 2007 was 3rd or 2nd.

Thanks YM!

Sure, they have a good midfield and the best CHF in the comp but their ruck division is severely lacking, they lack a key defender and they could probably do with another key forward.

Brown and Bradshaw is plenty of quality key forwards for mine.

Brown and Bradshaw is plenty of quality key forwards for mine.

Add Mitch Clark to the list.

Boring??? If the Cats are boring I must be watching the wrong game, they went out and pumped everyone last year with hard direct footy.

I would love the Dees to be boring like that!!

i think it was meant boring as in boring prediction, as in that's what everyone will say

Correct. I want to put someone ahead of them, and I think a club will probably do it given the even-ness of the comp and Geelong's luck... But I can't figure out which it will be... Too much crystal-ball gazing...

Oh thank **** Yze Magic tipped us to finish last. That means we'll go Top 4 at least!

Oh thank **** Yze Magic tipped us to finish last. That means we'll go Top 4 at least!

Ha !!!

My totally uneducated guess would be at the bottom of, or just out of, the eight.

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Well, their midfieed is top calibre, and that includes their ruck division (which could be the best in the AFL by seasons end)

They have some great youngsters who actually look better than ours (Adcock, Selwood, Sherman, Leunberger, Rischitelli, Clark, Patful, Hooper, Henderson etc...)

Their forward line could be the best in the game with the return of Bradshaw to join the almighty Jonathan Brown and Jared Brennan

Underrated backline

They are coached by Leigh Matthews

They have a great homeground advantage

I agree with you except for the forward line which is no way even close to the best. Geelong, St Kilda, Sydney, Port, Freo, Melb, Essendon and Collingwood have better forward line than lions

1.Geelong

2.Hawthorn

3.Port Adeliade

4.West Coast

5.Collingwood

6.St Kilda

7.Fremantle

8.Melbourne (either there or 9th don't underestimate us)

9.Brisbane

10.Sydney

11.Adeliade

12.Essendon

13.Kangaroos

14.Essendon

15.Carlton (could be higher if they don't tank and if Judd plays)

16.Richmond

Im absolutley astounded so many have such little faith.

I cant wait to bring this up round 22

Geelong Everyone is playing for second

Brisbane Have recruited well - If J Brown was CHF in most other teams, the would be talking flags

Adelaide Under rated - very fit

Port Adelaide Gun List - Would have loved to get their recruiting guru

Hawthorn I hate this club. Hope I'm wrong, would be wonderful for them to finish outside the 8

St Kilda Window closing... tick tock tick tock Harvey and Gerhrig.... tick tock tick tock

West Coast Well coached, home ground advantage

Femantle Window will slam shut at the end of this year - list getting very old.

Richmond It's been my experience with doing these things in the past that Richmond at 9 is a safe bet

Kangaroos Will fight hard, but not good enough. Key players are also getting old

Sydney Bang, Crash Thud. Hope they have some injuries for the first time in their life - We would win premierships if we only had to play 26 players a year!

Bulldogs 1 dimensional

Essendon Will start well and will die approx round 8. Also Knights has only read about success - never come close to achieving any

Carlton Don't know how to win, a bunch of losers

Collingwood Do not under estimate the last of leadership and experience on their list (Maybe hopeful, but I hate them)

Melbourne

If we don't make the 8, this is where I want to finish. Tough Draw, 3 wins, get the priority pick, none of this pick 3 or 4 or 5. I WANT THE GUN! A big GUN, 2 Guns, Nantinui and Someone 6ft 5, in the Jonathon Brown Mould.

Bailey will be good for Melbourne, but there is more water to go under the bridge. Melbourne will trade for a first round pick again this year.

PS also, you can flip my ladder at the end of the year and I will also be happy

1. Geelong

2. Hawthorn

3. Port

4. West Coast

5. Adelaide

6. Brisbane

7. St. Kilda

8. Sydney

9. Collingwood

10. Freo

11. North

12. Bulldogs

13. Dees

14. Essendon

15. Carlton

16. Richmond

I'm sorry, but I don't understand why everyone is rating Brisbane so highly. Sure, they have a good midfield and the best CHF in the comp but their ruck division is severely lacking,.

Mate, let me tell you this

Jamie Charman on his own is better than White/Meesen/Jamar and PJ combined

And I havent even mentioned the fact that Brisbane have Matt Luenberger, who is a future AA ruckman

Geelong

Hawthorn

Adelaide

St Kilda

Port

Collingwood

West Coast

Kangaroos

Melbourne

Brisbane

Sydney

Fremantle

Carlton

Bulldogs

Essendon

Richmond

Is it just me or does it seem harder to do this year? The competition really is even. I am having trouble justifying the final positions with myself so I don't like my chances of convincing anyone else.

Having said that Brisbane to do the business for mine. Brown and Bradshaw have the forward structure covered, Charman is more than adequate in the ruck. They have added TJs flair and touch to a hardworking midfield with a bit of grunt and they are big enough down back to cover most teams if Merret and Roe can cover the key posts. On top of that they have the best coach in the league. Probably int he best 3 coaches of all time.

Melbourne on the other hand will struggle for mine. I feel I am being optimistic sticking them in at 11th. I hope like hell that prove me wrong.

1. Brisbane

2. Geelong

3. Hawthorn

4. Fremantle

5. Port

6. Collingwood

7. West Coast

8. St Kilda

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9. Sydney

10. Bulldogs

11. Melbourne

12. North

13. Adelaide

14. Carlton

15. Essendon

16. Richmond

Bruce, Green, Miller and Carroll ... who have all proven huge disappointments and have not lived up to their potential.

A pick in the 60s, an early second round pick, a pick in the 50s and a rookie. What exactly was their potential?

A pick in the 60s, an early second round pick, a pick in the 50s and a rookie. What exactly was their potential?

i suppose you expect consistency of proformance and you dont get it from those players IMO.

OK ill start...So here goes

Geelong

North Melbourne

Port Adelaide

Melbourne

Fremantle

Brisbane

Adelaide

Carlton

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Hawthorn

Sydney

St Kilda

West Coast

Essendon

Footscray

Collingwood

Richmond

I rekon thats even worth a couple of bucks....

I reckon with a decent run without too many injuries we can be VERY competitive this year.

Here are my thoughts. Geelong, West Coast, Adelaide, St Kilda, Port, Hawthorn, Sydney, Freo, Melbourne, Brisbane, Collingwood, Essendon, Bulldogs, North, Carlton and Richmond.

Port Adelaide

Geelong

Brisbane

Collingwood

West Coast

Hawthorn

Sydney

St. Kilda

Adelaide

Western Bulldogs

Fremantle

Kangaroos

Essendon

Carlton

Melbourne

Richmond

Brisbane will challenge this year.