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I'm not sure how it will be viewed but given that he is eligible to play in the finals for Sandringham, would a suspension preclude him from playing at all in the finals?

Good question...

Posted
he will get off i think

Didn't look good at first live. When replayed several times on television he can be seen turning in mid air and only light contact with his shin to the back. If Buchanan's hit to the face front on was 1 week this can't be the same as contact is to the back and minor. If he is outed it could mean all the Sandy finals which is ridiculous.

Posted

I think he is in trouble, but I've given up trying to predict the outcomes of reports.

As to whether he is eligible for Sandy if suspended, I would think he has to serve his suspension for Melbourne, so he might be alright to play for Sandringham, but would miss early Melbourne games next season.

Posted

Let me start off by saying that I love Juice.

However, I think that last night we saw glimpses of the old Juice, the one who couldn't get a game earlier in the year because he was all over the place.

Earlier in the game he got dragged for not playing a team game, he then lost the plot and got reported. Basically, he let his emotions get the better of him.

I sort of hope that he gets a week for stupidity, and that it teaches him to think before acting on the field. He still has a lot to learn, but when he does, he has the potential to be an absolute star.

Posted
Let me start off by saying that I love Juice.

However, I think that last night we saw glimpses of the old Juice, the one who couldn't get a game earlier in the year because he was all over the place.

Earlier in the game he got dragged for not playing a team game, he then lost the plot and got reported. Basically, he let his emotions get the better of him.

I sort of hope that he gets a week for stupidity, and that it teaches him to think before acting on the field. He still has a lot to learn, but when he does, he has the potential to be an absolute star.

What did he do that wasn't team oriented?


Posted

i wasn't overly impressed with his yze-esque performance from the boundary line, the wrong boundary mind you.

i must say the charge looked bad at first. had to laugh at him trying to claim the 50 though, ha!

if a player gets suspended in vfl it counts for afl, so i imagine it works the other way round.

Posted

im pretty sure the umpire handed him the ball and told him it was his free for the retaliation, the other ump came in and overruled him though...

i thought juice had good reason to be annoyed today. 2-3 times he was 1 out in the goal square, only players in the 50 and team mates didnt kick it to him, if he was a more senior teammate they would have, and juice is a key forward...and all of these times they fluffed scoring the goal...

he had a couple of leads ignored...and got dragged at one stage when he had been doing nothing wrong. he was then thrown onto the wing because 'he was struggling to get into it'.

he is a key forward. kick it to him and let him do his thing.

Posted
i wasn't overly impressed with his yze-esque performance from the boundary line, the wrong boundary mind you.

i must say the charge looked bad at first. had to laugh at him trying to claim the 50 though, ha!

if a player gets suspended in vfl it counts for afl, so i imagine it works the other way round.

yeah - but then would that count as his, for example, week off?? what are the rules

Posted
if a player gets suspended in vfl it counts for afl, so i imagine it works the other way round.

That's true during the regular season. But seeing Newton was reported representing Melbourne, I doubt he'd get away with serving the suspension for Sandringham seeing as Melbournes season is finished.

So I would guess that he could play for Sandringham this year, and serve his suspension for Melbourne next season.

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That's it for me. Early plea leaves 93.75 points and a reprimand. All this is taken from "AFL Tribunal 2007".

Posted

Can accept one week with an early plea.

From the AFL:

Michael Newton, Melbourne, has been charged with charging Paul Bower, Carlton, during the second quarter of the Round 22 match between Melbourne and Carlton, played at the MCG on Sunday September 2, 2007.

In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-match sanction.

Posted
Can accept one week with an early plea.

From the AFL:

Michael Newton, Melbourne, has been charged with charging Paul Bower, Carlton, during the second quarter of the Round 22 match between Melbourne and Carlton, played at the MCG on Sunday September 2, 2007.

In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-match sanction.

How does that affect his ability to play for Sandringham or in the NAB Cup next year?

Posted
The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-match sanction.

Poor kid. The classifications of "reckless" and "high" are both arguable but even having both reduced still results in a Level 1 offence and a 1 match penalty (with no 25% early-plea reduction). Of course the Tribunal might just turf it, there's not much difference between 1 game and 2.

Posted
How does that affect his ability to play for Sandringham or in the NAB Cup next year?

I know he can play NAB Cup.

Dno about Sandy, I would assume he can. Different league.


Posted
Poor kid. The classifications of "reckless" and "high" are both arguable but even having both reduced still results in a Level 1 offence and a 1 match penalty (with no 25% early-plea reduction). Of course the Tribunal might just turf it, there's not much difference between 1 game and 2.

If you successfully challenge a grading (ie. say it was reckless, same impact, but to the body), I thought you could still claim the 25% plea reduction?

Any idea about the VFL finals/AFL pre-season question?

Posted
If you successfully challenge a grading (ie. say it was reckless, same impact, but to the body), I thought you could still claim the 25% plea reduction?

Any idea about the VFL finals/AFL pre-season question?

1st point you are correct.

I'd say he would serve it for Melbourne games, so he could play for Sandy. I am also pretty sure he has to serve H & A games next year, see Brodie Holland from last year.

Posted

I remember they changed the rule after Michael Long's very cowardly bump on Troy Simmonds in the 2000 GF. He served out all (if not most) of his suspension in the pre-season cup.

Newton will miss the first 08 Home and Away game, but will be eligible for Sandy finals and pre-season cup

Posted
Can accept one week with an early plea.

From the AFL:

Michael Newton, Melbourne, has been charged with charging Paul Bower, Carlton, during the second quarter of the Round 22 match between Melbourne and Carlton, played at the MCG on Sunday September 2, 2007.

In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-match sanction.

I am off to recheck the vision. I agree with reckless and low impact but it was not high contact as his shin contacted the players back. If the vision confirms this they should challenge it to bring it down to 1 point and then it becomes a reprimand. If however he can play for Sandy and it is seen as risky he can miss the first game next year, Neita should be fit for that one.

Posted
I am off to recheck the vision. I agree with reckless and low impact but it was not high contact as his shin contacted the players back. If the vision confirms this they should challenge it to bring it down to 1 point and then it becomes a reprimand. If however he can play for Sandy and it is seen as risky he can miss the first game next year, Neita should be fit for that one.

"High" accordingly to the AFL is "above the shoulders". I only saw the incident from directly behind (and didn't see the replay) but it seemed like a back-level impact. If there's any doubt it should go to the reported player.

Posted

Has decided to challenge his suspension at the tribunal.

From the AFL:

The AFL wishes to advise the Tribunal will sit tonight at 5pm, Tuesday September 4, after Melbourne's Michael Newton chose to contest the charge laid against him by the Match Review Panel from the weekend's round of matches. Please also find detailed below those sanctions accepted.

AFL Tribunal, 5pm, Tuesday September 4:

Michael Newton, Melbourne, has been charged with charging Paul Bower, Carlton, during the second quarter of the Round 22 match between Melbourne and Carlton, played at the MCG on Sunday September 2, 2007.

The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record.

Can accept one week with an early plea.

From the AFL:

Michael Newton, Melbourne, has been charged with charging Paul Bower, Carlton, during the second quarter of the Round 22 match between Melbourne and Carlton, played at the MCG on Sunday September 2, 2007.

In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-match sanction.

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