2 hours ago, Redleg said:

If I recall correctly, Saints sent Luke Ball to draft and Port sent someone whose name I forget, think he went to Carlton.

Nick Stevens.

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Nick Stevens.

Yes thanks.

Bit of a watershed moment I feel for the Dees.

Stars leaving, so we need to get the deals right or it will hurt for quite a while.

I refuse to believe there is no talent in this draft. Maybe not deep but surely there are 20 decent players. An early pick or two would hopefully give us 2 more talented young players.

So if we can trade in a couple of good players and obviously atm Humphrey and Walter seem the best possible we should use Tracc and Oliver deals to get them if we can convince them to come.

I am stunned Suns are looking at JUH, unless they think Walter or King may leave.

What do you think of Steele cheaply for 2 years? I have warmed to him, to partially replace the loss of Tracc and Clarry and imo, as he is a salary dump, we could get him thrown into the Heath deal and cost nearly nothing.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Redleg

13 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Yes thanks.

Bit of a watershed moment I feel for the Dees.

Stars leaving, so we need to get the deals right or it will hurt for quite a while.

I refuse to believe there is no talent in this draft. Maybe not deep but surely there are 20 decent players. An early pick or two would hopefully give us 2 more talented young players.

So if we can trade in a couple of good players and obviously atm Humphrey and Walter seem the best possible we should use Tracc and Oliver deals to get them if we can convince them to come.

I am stunned Suns are looking at JUH, unless they think Walter or King may leave.

What do you think of Steele cheaply for 2 years? I have warmed to him, to partially replace the loss of Tracc and Clarry and imo, as he is a salary dump, we could get him thrown into the Heath deal and cost nearly nothing.

Am also a big believer that there is always talent in the draft regardless whether its a weak draft or not.

History will say that over the past 10 years there has been exceptional talent that has come from each draft. So if we are able to.get a couple of early draft picks then i back Jason Taylor in doing a great job.

The only issue with Steele is based around Steven King's reasoning around wanting to get rid of Oliver due to evolving nature of where the game is going and thats being able to transition.

King feels that the game is shifting away from contest and having one dimensional inside mids which both Steele a s Oliver are.

I just cant see a world where we get rid of Oliver only to then pick up Jack Steele.

15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Am also a big believer that there is always talent in the draft regardless whether its a weak draft or not.

History will say that over the past 10 years there has been exceptional talent that has come from each draft. So if we are able to.get a couple of early draft picks then i back Jason Taylor in doing a great job.

The only issue with Steele is based around Steven King's reasoning around wanting to get rid of Oliver due to evolving nature of where the game is going and thats being able to transition.

King feels that the game is shifting away from contest and having one dimensional inside mids which both Steele a s Oliver are.

I just cant see a world where we get rid of Oliver only to then pick up Jack Steele.

How do you rate the draft Daz? I believe it's not that bad a pool but the AFL have just gone too far with all the compromising picks and stuff, are there a few good players that could be around the mark of the potential Trac picks?

9 hours ago, Robbie87 said:

Pleased to hear someone else has a similar view - I was trying to refrain from being outrightly derogatory, but 'drivel' is indeed the word I use myself to describe much of it! 🤪

I'll see your 'drivel' and raise it to 🐃💩

9 hours ago, rpfc said:

Good! You didn’t forget about Dre!

It’s a real problem apparently

"Nowadays, everybody wanna talk like they got something to say

But nothing comes out when they move their lips

Just a bunch of gibberish"

41 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Am also a big believer that there is always talent in the draft regardless whether its a weak draft or not.

History will say that over the past 10 years there has been exceptional talent that has come from each draft. So if we are able to.get a couple of early draft picks then i back Jason Taylor in doing a great job.

The only issue with Steele is based around Steven King's reasoning around wanting to get rid of Oliver due to evolving nature of where the game is going and thats being able to transition.

King feels that the game is shifting away from contest and having one dimensional inside mids which both Steele a s Oliver are.

I just cant see a world where we get rid of Oliver only to then pick up Jack Steele.

Fair enough but we probably need two extractors and Viney appears the only one left, so Steele could be handy and cheap for 2 years.

I am confident 2 early picks could get us two kids to add to Kalani and Sinemma and who we get in Tracc deal.

37 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

How do you rate the draft Daz? I believe it's not that bad a pool but the AFL have just gone too far with all the compromising picks and stuff, are there a few good players that could be around the mark of the potential Trac picks?

I certainly think the first round of the draft there is enough talent there at least. Top 15 has enough class and elite young talent there, especially if we end up with a few early picks from the Petracca deal.

Around the pick 7 mark guys like Robey, Grlj, Sharp, Lindsay, Taylor and Marsh are all high end talent.

Definitely from 20 onwards there is a drop in terms of depth of talent. If you can grab a couple of nuggets in the mid range area that we will have done exceptionally well.

4 hours ago, bing181 said:

Of course he did. He has to. All posturing around getting the best deal we can for Trac.

The minute anyone from the club says that we want him gone, we’ll be lucky to get a future 2nd rounder.

But do you acknowledge that the club's messaging about Petracca - "he wants to expore new opportunities and we're open to that only if it provides a good return" has been different from Oliver and May who we've openly encouraged to look for new opportunities without the good return caveat?

I guess you're going to say that the only reason we were able to say that about Petracca is because he wants to leave, but what if he didn't? Would we be pushing him out too like @BLWNBA implies for "future second rounder".

And if that is the case and it's as obvious as you both imply and that "only in the delusional world of football supporters" would believe it then why would GC be fooled and offer more than an F2?

I don't think your "reading in" holds water. Petracca won't be traded at a discounted price.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by old55

5 hours ago, bing181 said:

Not just King. The Trac meeting happened in GF week without King. List management décision, as King acknowledged.

Oh you mean Lamby is responsible for a hardnosed list management decision? Better not tell Dazzler. Lamb is hopeless and also moonlights as a recruiter apparently.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Adam The God

3 minutes ago, old55 said:

But do you acknowledge that the club's messaging about Petracca - "he wants to expore new opportunities and we're open to that only if it provides a good return" has been different from Oliver and May who we've openly encouraged to look for new opportunities without the good return caveat?

I guess you're going to say that the only reason we were able to say that about Petracca is because he wants to leave, but what if he didn't? Would we be pushing him out too like @BLWNBA implies for "future second rounder".

And if that is the case and it's as obvious as you both imply and that "only in the delusional world of football supporters" would believe it then why would GC be fooled and offer more than an F2?

I don't think your "reading in" holds water.

I’ve never said he’ll be sent away for a future second rounder, I’ve said there’s no world where he is at the Club next year and there is a strong desire from the top down for him to depart.

The Club can maximise his departure and still be steadfast that he’s not around next year.

You’re also ignoring the other fact, there would be multiple suitors for Petracca if the GC negotiations fell through; Adelaide would likely revisit this, I imagine other Victorian clubs may come knocking too. A future second rounder, in your words, would be laughed out the door because even if GC looked to lowball, other clubs would be prepared to offer something far greater or overpay for him.

5 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Oh you mean Lamby is responsible for a hardnosed list management decision? Better not tell Dazzler. Lamb is hopeless and also moonlights as a recruiter apparently.

Hows that been working out of late?

Or we blaming the board whenever it suits your hatred narrative towards Brad Green and and the rest of the board members?

10 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Lamb is hopeless and also moonlights as a recruiter apparently.

Was referred to by both David King and Sam Edmund the other day as one of the best list managers there is.

Rumours around that the filth are joining GWS and Crom in the battle for Oliver.

7 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

I’ve never said he’ll be sent away for a future second rounder, I’ve said there’s no world where he is at the Club next year and there is a strong desire from the top down for him to depart.

The Club can maximise his departure and still be steadfast that he’s not around next year.

You’re also ignoring the other fact, there would be multiple suitors for Petracca if the GC negotiations fell through; Adelaide would likely revisit this, I imagine other Victorian clubs may come knocking too. A future second rounder, in your words, would be laughed out the door because even if GC looked to lowball, other clubs would be prepared to offer something far greater or overpay for him.

Old mate @bing181 who is running the same line as you that it's impossible for Petracca to remain at the club said he'd be traded for a F2 if we didn't say we wanted a fair price.

I'll try to spell out what the club and I am saying. Petracca won't be traded for a discounted price. That means if the price is discounted then Petracca won't be traded.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by old55

6 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Was referred to by both David King and Sam Edmund the other day as one of the best list managers there is.

But a fan on a fan forum with no knowledge of the ins and outs of Lamb's position knows more than those in the industry.

2 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Was referred to by both David King and Sam Edmund the other day as one of the best list managers there is.

But he’s not? That’s just a fact. His work is there to see, it’s not hidden, how has he improved us in five years? Tell me. King and Edmund have 17 other clubs to think and talk about, I doubt they’ve bothered to have a look at Lamb’s work since the premiership, it’s bought him a lot of time and credits that have well and truly run out

8 minutes ago, KoltTheRam said:

Rumours around that the filth are joining GWS and Crom in the battle for Oliver.

If he goes to the Pies I will cry

26 minutes ago, old55 said:

But do you acknowledge that the club's messaging about Petracca - "he wants to expore new opportunities and we're open to that only if it provides a good return" has been different from Oliver and May who we've openly encouraged to look for new opportunities without the good return caveat?

I guess you're going to say that the only reason we were able to say that about Petracca is because he wants to leave, but what if he didn't? Would we be pushing him out too like @BLWNBA implies for "future second rounder".

And if that is the case and it's as obvious as you both imply and that "only in the delusional world of football supporters" would believe it then why would GC be fooled and offer more than an F2?

I don't think your "reading in" holds water. Petracca won't be traded at a discounted price.

Agree.

If we’re “delusional” for suggesting we’ll hold Trac, it follows that it’s obvious that we won’t. Which therefore GC knows, and we’re up for that future 2nd rounder @bing181 mentioned.

For our stance to work, we have to genuinely be prepared to take him back, which is 100% consistent with every line that has come out of the club to date. Those lines are markedly different to what we’ve said about Oliver and May.

1 hour ago, Macca said:

Fritsch, Salem, Chandler, Bowey, Sparrow & Turner are all out of contract after the 2026 season

Would any of the other clubs offer 2, 3 or 4+ year deals for any of the aforementioned 6 players?

Turner, Bowey & Chandler the most likely (?)

I wouldn't like to lose any of the 6 but all the clubs are trying to improve their lists

A lot of long term contracts are bandied about these days along with player managers constantly on the lookout for their clients

For instance, a 4 year deal at $700k per annum means $112k goes in the player managers pocket (4%)

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Am also a big believer that there is always talent in the draft regardless whether its a weak draft or not.

History will say that over the past 10 years there has been exceptional talent that has come from each draft. So if we are able to.get a couple of early draft picks then i back Jason Taylor in doing a great job.

The only issue with Steele is based around Steven King's reasoning around wanting to get rid of Oliver due to evolving nature of where the game is going and thats being able to transition.

King feels that the game is shifting away from contest and having one dimensional inside mids which both Steele a s Oliver are.

I just cant see a world where we get rid of Oliver only to then pick up Jack Steele.

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Am also a big believer that there is always talent in the draft regardless whether its a weak draft or not.

History will say that over the past 10 years there has been exceptional talent that has come from each draft. So if we are able to.get a couple of early draft picks then i back Jason Taylor in doing a great job.

The only issue with Steele is based around Steven King's reasoning around wanting to get rid of Oliver due to evolving nature of where the game is going and thats being able to transition.

King feels that the game is shifting away from contest and having one dimensional inside mids which both Steele a s Oliver are.

I just cant see a world where we get rid of Oliver only to then pick up Jack Steele.

If King feels that the game has changed,I'd be getting rid of Viney,contest beast(yes)but the best one deminsional player in the AFL,its like he plays for the other team with his turnovers

3 minutes ago, Greg Schneider said:

But he’s not? That’s just a fact. His work is there to see, it’s not hidden, how has he improved us in five years? Tell me. King and Edmund have 17 other clubs to think and talk about, I doubt they’ve bothered to have a look at Lamb’s work since the premiership, it’s bought him a lot of time and credits that have well and truly run out

I’m not certain you know what a ‘fact’ is.

2 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

I’m not certain you know what a ‘fact’ is.

Cool, now tell me what Lamb’s done in five years to be one of the best list managers in the comp if that’s what he is?

None trade related but what a family

3 minutes ago, Greg Schneider said:

But he’s not? That’s just a fact. His work is there to see, it’s not hidden, how has he improved us in five years? Tell me. King and Edmund have 17 other clubs to think and talk about, I doubt they’ve bothered to have a look at Lamb’s work since the premiership, it’s bought him a lot of time and credits that have well and truly run out

Referencing Kane and Kingy to justify how good Tim Lamb is as funny as Adam saying that Gawn and Viney contracts last year were board only decisions and not list management.

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Referencing Kane and Kingy to justify how good Tim Lamb is as funny as Adam saying that Gawn and Viney contracts last year were board only decisions and not list management.

17 other clubs think he’s a laughing stock but all good Kane and Sammy Edmund think he’s a ripper 🤦‍♂️😂