Christian Petracca

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10 hours ago, adonski said:

 

Thanks for posting that. Surely there’s more to it that? A professional sporting organisation in turmoil over communication issues, I’m not buying it.

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9 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Yeah there’s something not right here. 

IMO clearly communication between Trac, club and players has broken down. That doesn’t just happen out of nowhere though and so there must I think have been a deterioration of his relationship with the club and his teammates prior. 

 

This has to be the case otherwise the whole two way frustration starting from KB doesn’t add up.

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7 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Wouldn’t he just be in the Nick Daicos shadow though? 
 

Pies just don’t work in so many levels.

1- He’ll be second fiddle

2- Can’t afford to pay him as well as we would

3 - Their list is going nowhere 

 

If CP's family is so red hot for the Pies I reckon they would be drooling at the thought of their boy playing alongside Nick Daicos. Not much of what has consumed this thread makes much sense given, as others have observed, this apparent tantee does not put Trac in a good light. A fleeting thought that is of no greater value than any other speculation here is that maybe Tom Morris' link is with the family rather than the Connors group and that this whole thing has become a Petracca clan fever dream.

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1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

Tom Morris isn't going to back down. None of the media ever do. On the basis everything sorts itself out, he will just say that he understood it was true at the time but things changed. 

That's absolutely correct. "True at the time" is the universal self justification escape clause. And that's true ALL the time.

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A bit too much noise on this.

"IF" any of this is true and Trac is causing this.  I think the club need to bring him in, and have a stern word to him.

something along the lines of: "you are a leader of this club on 1mil+ a year, we have had 1 bad year. if you have issues come to us. we will work through them, we don't want our club dragged through the media like this."

Now this is assuming Trac hasn't talked to anyone about these issues and his management etc are leaking info.

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Tom Morris on SEN this morning suggesting that if a big club like Carlton want Petracca they would need to give up 2 first round picks and a McKay or Curnow. 

Edited August 18 by pingu

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3 minutes ago, pingu said:

Tom Morris on SEN this morning suggesting that if a big club like Carlton want Petracca they would need to give up 2 first round picks and a McKay or Curnow. 

Where do I sign?

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5 minutes ago, pingu said:

Tom Morris on SEN this morning suggesting that if a big club like Carlton want Petracca they would need to give up 2 first round picks and a McKay or Curnow. 

I haven’t listened but assume it’s in here. 

 

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9 hours ago, praha said:

This is all very bizarre. There must be more to it. And tbh it's leaning towards not looking good for Petracca. Maybe it's just me but it seems like his management is using this whole thing to help drive and justify a trade request. 

If I were Petracca's publicist right now I'd be strongly encouraging him to come out and either make a commitment to the club or make a trade request. 

Allowing Tom Morris to control the narrative here is doing huge damage to his brand.

For the sake of argument, let's say tracc really does want to get to a 'big' club.

And for this exercise, let's say he means a Victorian club

And let's say a driver for that is not being happy with the club's 'direction', which I assume includes our chances of winning a flag.

The big clubs in Victoria are the pies, bombers tigers and blues.

The pies missed the 8 after winning their flag and have multiple best 22 players above 30 and a dearth of talented players in the key 50 to 100 game bracket.

I'm not going to write them off but i honestly believe we are much better placed in the next few years to win a flag.

The blues are still in the hunt for finals this year, just, and have good upside. But they have cripps and walsh  - do they really want another  bull inside mid? 

And sure, tracc can go forward- but they have McKay and Curnow 

The tigers are in full rebuild mode. And so years away from a flag.

And the bombers are, well, the bombers. They would love to have tracc, and he actually would be a great fit list wise. 

But are the bombers realistically closer to a flag than us?

And the bombers have more dramas than even us. 

And leaving aside flag chances, it's hard to see how any of those four clubs get a deal done.

The problem for tracc is at this stage of his career, with the salary he would command (not to mention what a club would have to trade and/or give up in terms of draft picks), even if we were willing to trade, there are very few clubs for whom it would make sense to trade him in. 

For example, for starters the tigers would have to give up their number one pick, which makes no sense for a club in rebuild mode.

The pies might be able to get it done, but it would be at the expense of adding yet another best 22 player in the back half of his career.

And given he would instantly become their highest paid player, trading in tracc would create chaos in terms of their player payments.

The blues, as a starting point, would have to give us Curnow or Mackay and basically all their draft picks.

It all feels like a shot accross the bow by tracc and his management.

That's to say it is an ambit claim, a flex. As ive noted, they've over played their hand.

So I predict they are left with one play - lean into the redemption, reconciliation narrative.

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1 minute ago, Demonland said:

I haven’t listened but assume it’s in here. 

 

PodTRAC...ominous 🫣

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After 64 pages it looks like we have established that Tracc is frustrated about something...

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3 minutes ago, binman said:

For the sake of argument, let's say tracc really does want to get to a 'big' club.

And for this exercise, let's say he means a Victorian club

And let's say a driver for that is not being happy with the club's 'direction', which I assume includes our chances of winning a flag.

The big clubs in Victoria are the pies, bombers tigers and blues.

The pies missed the 8 after winning their flag and have multiple best 22 players above 30 and a dearth of talented players in the key 50 to 100 game bracket.

I'm not going to write them off but i honestly believe we are much better placed in the next few years to win a flag.

The blues are still in the hunt for finals this year, just, and have good upside. But they have cripps and walsh  - do they really want another  bull inside mid? 

And sure, tracc can go forward- but they have McKay and Curnow 

The tigers are in full rebuild mode. And so years away from a flag.

And the bombers are, well, the bombers. They would love to have tracc, and he actually would be a great fit list wise. 

But are the bombers realistically closer to a flag than us?

And the bombers have more dramas than even us. 

And leaving aside flag chances, it's hard to see how any of those four clubs get a deal done.

The problem for tracc is at this stage of his career, with the salary he would command (not to mention what a club would have to trade and/or give up in terms of draft picks), even if we were willing to trade, there are very few clubs for whom it would make sense to trade him in. 

For example, for starters the tigers would have to give up their number one pick, which makes no sense for a club in rebuild mode.

The pies might be able to get it done, but it would be at the expense of adding yet another best 22 player in the back half of his career.

And given he would instantly become their highest paid player, trading in tracc would create chaos in terms of their player payments.

The blues, as a starting point, would have to give us Curnow or Mackay and basically all their draft picks.

It all feels like a shot accross the bow by tracc and his management.

That's to say it is an ambit claim, a flex. As ive noted, they've over played their hand.

So I predict they are left with one play - lean into the redemption, reconciliation narrative.

Pies may be the least likely. No first round pick.

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1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Clarrys situation perhaps?

Maybe Joel Smith as well.

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7 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I haven’t listened but assume it’s in here. 

 

Look, i am a reasonable guy, if they give us Weitering, Walsh, Cripps, Curnow and Mckay, plus pay their salary for us and agree to take Lachie Hunter as well, they can have Trac. 

Oh and 2 first round picks.

Edited August 18 by Ted Lasso

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5 minutes ago, binman said:

For the sake of argument, let's say tracc really does want to get to a 'big' club.

And for this exercise, let's say he means a Victorian club

And let's say a driver for that is not being happy with the club's 'direction', which I assume includes our chances of winning a flag.

The big clubs in Victoria are the pies, bombers tigers and blues.

The pies missed the 8 after winning their flag and have multiple best 22 players above 30 and a dearth of talented players in the key 50 to 100 game bracket.

I'm not going to write them off but i honestly believe we are much better placed in the next few years to win a flag.

The blues are still in the hunt for finals this year, just, and have good upside. But they have cripps and walsh  - do they really want another  bull inside mid? 

And sure, tracc can go forward- but they have McKay and Curnow 

The tigers are in full rebuild mode. And so years away from a flag.

And the bombers are, well, the bombers. They would love to have tracc, and he actually would be a great fit list wise. 

But are the bombers realistically closer to a flag than us?

And the bombers have more dramas than even us. 

And leaving aside flag chances, it's hard to see how any of those four clubs get a deal done.

The problem for tracc is at this stage of his career, with the salary he would command (not to mention what a club would have to trade and/or give up in terms of draft picks), even if we were willing to trade, there are very few clubs for whom it would make sense to trade him in. 

For example, for starters the tigers would have to give up their number one pick, which makes no sense for a club in rebuild mode.

The pies might be able to get it done, but it would be at the expense of adding yet another best 22 player in the back half of his career.

And given he would instantly become their highest paid player, trading in tracc would create chaos in terms of their player payments.

The blues, as a starting point, would have to give us Curnow or Mackay and basically all their draft picks.

It all feels like a shot accross the bow by tracc and his management.

That's to say it is an ambit claim, a flex. As ive noted, they've over played their hand.

So I predict they are left with one play - lean into the redemption, reconciliation narrative.

I agree with most of this hut playing devil’s advocate, if the AFL allow clubs to trade picks two years out, most of those clubs will be able to offer first rounders in 2024, 2025 and 2026. 

If he wants to go, Trac will put that to the club with a trade request and try to convince us that we’re better off with three first round picks than a player who doesn’t want to be here. 

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The Morris segment didn’t shed any new light really. I’m still very confident Trac will not be traded. When the head coach says “I can guarantee you, Christian and Clayton will both be in the red and blue next year” and the club puts out a statement saying Christian will not be traded I think it’s pretty safe otherwide lots of people will have egg on their faces.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the conversations with the club and Christian are a lot more advanced in the repair of the relationship based on those statements.

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1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

I agree with most of this hut playing devil’s advocate, if the AFL allow clubs to trade picks two years out, most of those clubs will be able to offer first rounders in 2024, 2025 and 2026. 

If he wants to go, Trac will put that to the club with a trade request and try to convince us that we’re better off with three first round picks than a player who doesn’t want to be here. 

Only allowed to trade one year ahead this offseason. 

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17 minutes ago, pingu said:

Tom Morris on SEN this morning suggesting that if a big club like Carlton want Petracca they would need to give up 2 first round picks and a McKay or Curnow. 

So Tom Morris is still on the Dees payroll then?

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I don’t think it will get to him wanting to be traded but if it does future firsts should not or part of it unless it’s Richmond’s. Too easy to get caught out with them.

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31 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

If CP's family is so red hot for the Pies I reckon they would be drooling at the thought of their boy playing alongside Nick Daicos. Not much of what has consumed this thread makes much sense given, as others have observed, this apparent tantee does not put Trac in a good light. A fleeting thought that is of no greater value than any other speculation here is that maybe Tom Morris' link is with the family rather than the Connors group and that this whole thing has become a Petracca clan fever dream.

Christian's brother Julian works for Connors Sports Management, the same firm that manages his affairs. Family and management are one of the same.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1119542/player-agent-julian-petracca-switches-to-rival-management-group

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4 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Only allowed to trade one year ahead this offseason. 

Well that helps. 

Morris in his radio segment this morning said:

- Trac went to Noosa for “private reasons” and teammates didn’t know what they were initially

- Trac is “holding out” to see if he can find a club with three top 10 picks or two and a player

- He’s still disgruntled but club doing what it can

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I keep clear of footy journalism so I am totally in the dark about Morris. 

If Tracc's managers are leaking, why are they leaking to only Morris?  What's in it for them to give him exclusives?

Edited August 18 by sue

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7 minutes ago, gs77 said:

So Tom Morris is still on the Dees payroll then?

Smart…. He’s a double double agent… am I getting that right?

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2 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I don’t think it will get to him wanting to be traded but if it does future firsts should not or part of it unless it’s Richmond’s. Too easy to get caught out with them.

100%

And we are clearly still trying to get a flag with our current list, so we need a first rounder this year (definitely inside the top 10), AND a ready made quality player who will fill a need either in the midfield or up forward.

If for example he wants to go to Carlton, then what a trade should look like is one of McKay/Curnow/Walsh (anyway Carlton will need to move one of them on to make space to take on Trac's contract, unless they're back to handing out paper bags!), plus a first round pick.

The reality is that any of the big VIC clubs will either struggle for cap space or for currency, unless we are talking Richmond, and somehow I can't see Trac going to a side destined to be in the bottom 4 for years to come. 
If he wants to go to Essendon, and again, why? Then we may be able to strike a deal with them. But I can't see how he gets to Carlton, let alone Collingwood

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15 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I agree with most of this hut playing devil’s advocate, if the AFL allow clubs to trade picks two years out, most of those clubs will be able to offer first rounders in 2024, 2025 and 2026. 

If he wants to go, Trac will put that to the club with a trade request and try to convince us that we’re better off with three first round picks than a player who doesn’t want to be here. 

If those picks are late tens(or worse early twenties), are close to useless for us.

It's not just about the quantity of picks but the quality.

Give me 2 top 5 picks, instead of a haul of late first rounders.