Sounds like Roffy could sue a certain journo

7 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

And Mark Robinson is devoting an article to Joseph Gutnick's thoughts. Hahahaha!!🤣🤣🤣Unbelievably hilarious.  You couldn't make this stuff up. Robbo can't even speak the 'King's English'. So terribly embarrassing.  Does anyone actually pay or subscribe to the HS any more? OMG.

I’m glad you didn’t refer to the Feral Hun as a ‘newspaper’ which it most certainly isn’t.

A purveyor of propaganda, conspiracy theories, misinformation at best, and I’m being kind.

These journos get away with way too much and it’s gone too far now.

i would definitely be threatening legal action.

17 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

I got the impression that Kate Roffey was very careful to protect Petracca in a number of her responses to Whately's questions. She was determined not to offer any information that would compound the difficulties Christian is obviously facing at present.

I get we may have differing views on this and that’s fine. I personally thought the Roffey interview was really poor communication for a club president. She didn’t choose her words very carefully and came across (to me anyways) as kinda flippant, trying to distance herself from the situation and not being careful about ‘optics’, which whether people like it or not, are important especially when all eyes are on us. I’m also not saying she was trying to distance herself, but her choice or language, would be the same as someone that is trying to distance themselves. Thus, very poor choice.
 

So this is only a small, and I stress small, example, but I haven’t seen it mentioned. When she was talking about the club speaking to Tracc since the injury, she said, the club had been speaking to Tracc ‘for 5, 3 or 6 months, whenever the injury happened’ (I’m paraphrasing but that is very close to exact words)

That is extremely sloppy for a President of a professional sporting organisation, when seemingly, the club is in turmoil? How difficult is it to know that it was basically 2 months ago. Not, anywhere from 3,5 or 6 or whenever the injury happened. 

I expect a bit more professionalism from the figurehead of our club to at least be across very very basic details when in front of the media? Just made her sound lazy and/or incompetent.

In my opinion of course, others will disagree and that’s fine.

 

2 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said:

I’m glad you didn’t refer to the Feral Hun as a ‘newspaper’ which it most certainly isn’t.

A purveyor of propaganda, conspiracy theories, misinformation at best, and I’m being kind.

My apologies.  You're right. For those old enough to remember the rag 'The Truth' the HS is now very much in that category. Only thing missing is 'Hart Balm'!

9 hours ago, beelzebub said:

HWSNBN-11 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's either that or BBP haha

30 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

In her (very ordinary) interview the subject was homesickness, referring mostly to the Kozzie situation but also to others (eg Petty) she said 'they' always get homesick which I interpreted as referring to interstate players (makes sense) but others have seized on this as a racist thing. ie. 'they' being indigenous players.

FWIW, I think she performed very poorly, but most of it has been misinterpreted which is in part down to Roffey but the remainder is circling journos itching for a kill. 

Yeah and Sam McClure is taking her saying "I haven't spoken to Trac about that" (meaning she hasn't spoken to him about leaving the club - she most likely has not had that conversation with him, he would address the FD) as that she hasn't spoken to him at all. 

2 hours ago, praha said:

Jimmy was fantastic at getting people to donate but he oversaw some of the worst administrative and hiring decision the club AND league have ever seen. If it weren't for GC and GWS entering the league we quite possibly might have gone winless across two seasons, in his 3rd and 4th seasons as President.

And don't forget Garry Lyon's role at that time. It was laughable to hear Dees fans phoning Whateley after Roffey's interview calling for Garry to get involved - the same bloke who was key to appointing Neeld.

It's tough to judge Jim because he fell ill not long after taking the presidency, but the fact is his administration, aided by a well-intentioned G Lyon, left the club in ruins.

Joe Gutnick is still alive?

 

He must be like 120 by now

36 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

So the puerile tabloid that is the Herald Sun has a headline 'Disintegration Demons'. And we just blindly believe this dross? Next you'll be telling me that the Daily Star in the UK is a reputable read. Give it a spell. The media is salivating with all this nonsense and so many are falling for it. I'll listen to our 7 time AA Maxy we'll before these losers. He summed up the situation perfectly. 

If headlines and wild claims are "dross", it is the job of the president, the board and the CEO to demonstrate this by providing an effective counter-narrative.

So far they have been unable or unwilling to do so.

Of course the sensationalist media are not interested in balanced reporting. But given that we plunged 10 places on the ladder this season and have been in constant turmoil over issues affecting two of our biggest stars, Clayton Oliver and now Petracca, they may just have a point.

Everyone wanted the President to talk, now she has and everyone thinks it's pathetic.

It's sort of like when someone says that there's too many streaming services around and how good would it be if there was a centralised service that had all these shows. 

We had it. It was called Foxtel, everyone hated it..

1 minute ago, layzie said:

Everyone wanted the President to talk, now she has and everyone thinks it's pathetic.

It's sort of like when someone says that there's too many streaming services around and how good would it be if there was a centralised service that had all these shows. 

We had it. It was called Foxtel, everyone hated it..

I never wanted her to talk. Now you know why. 

You know, the more this goes on, the more it has me thinking that there could be some issues at the club. 

7 minutes ago, layzie said:

Everyone wanted the President to talk, now she has and everyone thinks it's pathetic.

 

Well that's a bit frivolous.

Of course people wanted her to talk and explain, but not pathetically, which she was.

If I am starving and have a meal, I am still entitled to be angry if I get food poisoning.

26 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

These journos get away with way too much and it’s gone too far now.

i would definitely be threatening legal action.

I agree. On top on the the despicable attempt by Tom Morris to insinuate Kate Roffey had said something racist by presenting her words out of context, somehow Mark Robinson gets away with writing this; “Unbelievably, Roffey said she wasn’t aware of Petracca’s grievances and even alluded to a belief that it was all media-driven.”

There has to be some accountability.  

1 minute ago, Dee-tonator said:

If headlines and wild claims are "dross", it is the job of the president, the board and the CEO to demonstrate this by providing an effective counter-narrative.

So far they have been unable or unwilling to do so.

Of course the sensationalist media are not interested in balanced reporting. But given that we plunged 10 places on the ladder this season and have been in constant turmoil over issues affecting two of our biggest stars, Clayton Oliver and now Petracca, they may just have a point.

No they don't.  Show me where they have printed facts like Brayshaw gone and not replaced, Smith gone and not replaced, Petracca misses half a season,  Oliver no pre season and playing injured, Five AA and others missing from our last game, one of the toughest fixtures in the league, lose four games by under a kick etc,etc, etc. Injuries and fixturing are not 'sexy' enough for the sensationalist driven media. The old 'don't let the facts get in the way of a good story ' is alive and kicking. Didn't the same media tell us Viney was leaving a week ago? Didn't the same media tell us Oliver was 100% gone? Does your memory go back to 2019? The media had us written off as a basket case of a club. Never mind we had a squillon Injuries and 12 blokes doing pre season. Fought back in 2020 to miss the finals by % with the worst fixture in the history of the game. The club that was in crisis with an appalling culture then went onto win the flag in 2021. No, the media has no point currently, if ever.

With all this great press and attention with many chapters to go. Maybe the Petracca’s genius plan is to build the MFC into a “Big club!” So he can be sufficiently adored.

win win

Go Demons

5 minutes ago, layzie said:

Everyone wanted the President to talk, now she has and everyone thinks it's pathetic.

It's sort of like when someone says that there's too many streaming services around and how good would it be if there was a centralised service that had all these shows. 

We had it. It was called Foxtel, everyone hated it..

To be fair, if she’s going to be a club President, being proficient in front of the media goes along with the role. It’s not really anybody else’s fault if she did poorly?

And yes I understand some people will have a go at her no matter what she says, but there’s also the possibility that she also did a bad job.

Just now, BoBo said:

To be fair, if she’s going to be a club President, being proficient in front of the media goes along with the role. It’s not really anybody else’s fault if she did poorly?

And yes I understand some people will have a go at her no matter what she says, but there’s also the possibility that she also did a bad job.

Wasn't perfect by any stretch but definitely gone from a 5 out of 10 to 1 pretty quickly and crappily

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Well that's a bit frivolous.

Of course people wanted her to talk and explain, but not pathetically, which she was.

If I am starving and have a meal, I am still entitled to be angry if I get food poisoning.

It's not frivolous Redleg, it's factual.

People were screaming the house down here demanding our president talk and what's that gotten them?

You can whinge till the cows come home but if they don't come home don't complain to me.

4 minutes ago, layzie said:

It's not frivolous Redleg, it's factual.

People were screaming the house down here demanding our president talk and what's that gotten them?

You can whinge till the cows come home but if they don't come home don't complain to me.

You have completely missed my point.

There is nothing wrong with expecting a President to speak on a very important/crisis issue.

What is wrong, is the President speaking like an unprepared smartie and basically making a fool of herself.

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

Wasn't perfect by any stretch but definitely gone from a 5 out of 10 to 1 pretty quickly and crappily

Yeah maybe. I think the first rule of journalism also applies to media facing representatives of any organisation: 

’Don’t become the story’ 

Rightly or wrongly, that’s what’s happened here and even 5 out of 10 doesn’t cut it when the knives are out from a media perspective IMO

1 hour ago, goodwindees said:

I mentioned this person by name and the damage she was doing in a post a few days ago, however, quite appropriately my post was rejected as the moderator stated that they didn’t want anyone named on this site.

Baseless.

42 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said:

I’m glad you didn’t refer to the Feral Hun as a ‘newspaper’ which it most certainly isn’t.

A purveyor of propaganda, conspiracy theories, misinformation at best, and I’m being kind.

just curious. how is that different from every news source these days?

3 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

No they don't.  Show me where they have printed facts like Brayshaw gone and not replaced, Smith gone and not replaced, Petracca misses half a season,  Oliver no pre season and playing injured, Five AA and others missing from our last game, one of the toughest fixtures in the league, lose four games by under a kick etc,etc, etc. Injuries and fixturing are not 'sexy' enough for the sensationalist driven media. The old 'don't let the facts get in the way of a good story ' is alive and kicking. Didn't the same media tell us Viney was leaving a week ago? Didn't the same media tell us Oliver was 100% gone? Does your memory go back to 2019? The media had us written off as a basket case of a club. Never mind we had a squillon Injuries and 12 blokes doing pre season. Fought back in 2020 to miss the finals by % with the worst fixture in the history of the game. The club that was in crisis with an appalling culture then went onto win the flag in 2021. No, the media has no point currently, if ever.

Is it just me but I haven’t picked up on the media being overly critical about how the ‘umpire assisted premiers of 2023’ couldn’t even make the finals the year after they ‘won’ the premiership…surprise, surprise. 

Don’t want to upset a huge segment of their market audience do we.