1 minute ago, bing181 said:

I don't see that any clubs, yet alone Melbourne-based clubs, have the trade capital, not to mention the A-grade player to throw in. Apparently Hawthorn interested (though who knows ...), but they only have Pick 12 and ???

Sam Frost

12 minutes ago, OutOfTheCentre21 said:

McKay and a pick. I'd also be interested in picking up an Ollie Wines to assist in the short term. 

Just a flat out no to McKay.

1 hour ago, Oxdee said:

Christian was all in on the dees. Signed on to be a player for life. The club have dropped the ball to let this happen. Pure incompetence 

His brand has exploded in the years since he signed that contract, thanks to the cooking. Presumably his priorities have changed.

 

 

3 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Would you do Cerra and Carlton’s first pick this year and 1st next year?

No way... Cerra's soft tissue injuries are a concern.

These are way unders for a top 5 player in the league.

Edited August 26, 20241 yr by Young Blood

1 minute ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Would you do Cerra and Carlton’s first pick this year and 1st next year?

Cerra doesn't excite me and neither of those picks are likely to be top 10 so no from me. 

4 minutes ago, bing181 said:

I don't see that any clubs, yet alone Melbourne-based clubs, have the trade capital, not to mention the A-grade player to throw in. Apparently Hawthorn interested (though who knows ...), but they only have Pick 12 and ???

Pick 12 and Frosty?

How would a club that values their cohesion and culture feel about welcoming someone who has gone to town burning their club/teammates, for the sake of growing their social media profile? 

49 minutes ago, Colm said:

 

He will have been getting well advised by Connors and his brother for weeks. They must think they can get a deal done. 

Yep. They would surely have told him that a deal would be impossible unless he was willing to blow things up over the course of weeks on end. Many of us are so sick of this that we're thinking about the return we could get, two weeks ago that was unthinkable.

1 hour ago, bing181 said:

The remark earlier here that Trac isn't himself post-injury trauma is something that I can confirm on a personal level (to some extent, not comparing my experiences to anyone else's). You see the world differently, small issues get magnified out of all proportion, you lose sight of the big picture and it takes good people and support to keep you on the straight and narrow and restore some measure of equilibrium.

No idea of anything re Trac, but wouldn't surprise me if he was struggling, nor that he might not fully grasp that he was.

Alternatively it could be that the injury/trauma made him reassess his life/career and a desire to move on from a place he can see hasn't addressed the concerns he's raised previously or from a place that will never be the big club he wants to be part of etc.

To the other parties it can look as though he is not himself but it may just be that his priorities have changed or that he has made a decision to go in a different direction. He is still himself he is just acting differently towards the club/players because he has decided he wants to be elsewhere.

Is there a hint of the Judd trade about this if current type of Carlton trade were to come to fruition?

Dominating midfielder goes for key forward with picks...

5 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Would you do Cerra and Carlton’s first pick this year and 1st next year?

Cerra has guitar strings as hammys. No way. 

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Alternatively it could be that the injury/trauma made him reassess his life/career and a desire to move on from a place he can see hasn't addressed the concerns he's raised previously or from a place that will never be the big club he wants to be part of etc.

To the other parties it can look as though he is not himself but it may just be that his priorities have changed or that he has made a decision to go in a different direction. He is still himself he is just acting differently towards the club/players because he has decided he wants to be elsewhere.

Values and priorities are his prerogative to change at any stage of his life, and with that, there are a range of consequences, both desirable and undesirable, that he will accept, and that's ok.

Pursue things vigorously, and hold them lightly.

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If Petracca leaves, it would be great to see him line up against a renewed fit and firing Oliver and watch Clarrie work him over. 

6 minutes ago, Pirlo said:

The strategy appears to be to make life as difficult as possible for the club in the following ways:

1. A personal media embargo, including pulling out of an interview last minute

2. All media leaks being done through his management on Sunday and Monday nights, when the footy shows are on

3. Burning relationships with his teammates and hoping the players can apply the burn for him by saying they're not keen to play with him

4. Knowing the club leaders are/should be under pressure and trying to force them to make statements they can't confidently keep to

All that and potentially scaring off potential trade targets. 

The club need to get out in front of this, not playing everything is fine.

1 hour ago, kev martin said:

He could follow A.Yze to Richmond to help with their rebuild (they have the biggest membership). 

They have plenty of draft pics and Lynch.

Don't fight for a player who doesn't want to be at MFC. Can only be disruptive to us, and without being driven he could let himself decline.

Most big professional leagues around the world transfer players all the time. AFL has been an outlier, though is catching up. Tracc is part of the world's high performance athletes, and expects what that cohort does.

Most other big professional leagues give the club power to trade a contracted player whether they can get the best deal. In the AFL we must have the contracted players agreement before moving them on. Would be far better if the club owned his contract so could trade him wherever we could get the best return for the club instead of having to sort out a trade with his desired landing spot.

4 minutes ago, praha said:

 

 

This again is bad press for Trac. But we love in a society where this type of publicity will all work in his favour which is further salt to an open wound.

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

How would a club that values their cohesion and culture feel about welcoming someone who has gone to town burning their club/teammates, for the sake of growing their social media profile? 

Thats the thing he's looking at two clubs that wouldn't give two [censored] about this tainting of his reputation. They'll take the onfield performance of a top 5 player any day. Carlton and The Filth would just welcome him with open arms.

'Fresh start new Trac' etc. 🤮

48 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Maybe he just wants a brownlow and knows Clarry makes that hard?

Oh yeah because competing with Cripps instead will definitely be easier 

1 minute ago, Young Blood said:

Is there a hint of the Judd trade about this if current type of Carlton trade were to come to fruition?

Dominating midfielder goes for key forward with picks...

None of the Vic clubs have the equivalent of JJK on their books. They're rare as hens teeth. Treacy, Amiss, Andrew, Walter, Cadman, Darcy are the closest I can think of. 

@demonland, where is my post from a few hours ago about RDB in ‘65?

1 minute ago, Heart Beats True said:

If Petracca leaves, it would be great to see him line up against a renewed fit and firing Oliver and watch Clarrie work him over. 

Come on, its Melbourne. Tracc could hamstring Gawnie and Clarry and the boys would be over smiling and patting him on the back.

1 minute ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

All that and potentially scaring off potential trade targets. 

The club need to get out in front of this, not playing everything is fine.

The only way they can "get in front of it" is to do what Christian wants them to do and signal their willingness to trade him. I'm no fan of the club's admin at the moment, but it is an impossible hand. Saying "he's 100% staying" didn't work this week. 

I guess all they can do is say they want to keep him to keep is trade value up? its like with Oliver letting it leak he was having a personal crisis before then suggesting he might be traded was amateur.

4 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

Oh yeah because competing with Cripps instead will definitely be easier 

Im talking North, Richmond or even Essendon - better chance of a brownlow and better chance of a trade.