POSTGAME: Rd 18 vs Essendon

[dazzledavey36 54,861]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Great to get a win for Kozzie's 100th and glad he was able to hit the scoreboard. He had really gained some consistency this year which is due to him spending more time in the middle. He doesn't need to be the matchwinner every week, just needs to play his role and then take the chances when they come like the last 2 weeks.

Crazy to think he's still only 22/23.

Well said.

Everything he touches turn to gold.. the goal he set up was elite...

Well done on your 100th koz!

[Dr. Gonzo 24,207]

40 minutes ago, dl4e said:

People if you wat a good laugh then go over to bomberblitz and read the review vs dees. They aare 100% worse than us after a loss. 

https://discourse.bomberblitz.com/t/review-vs-dees/32912

That website is horrendous but the schadenfreude is worth 5-10 minutes of scrolling

[layzie 33,793]

21 minutes ago, Supdeano said:

So we're still making excuses for Petty's performance (selection) because 

A) lack of preseason/injuries

B) he's playing out of position 

It's not all on him, I get it, it's as much on team selection that causes him to either play unfit or play in a position where he's ineffective.

But we can't rely on these issues when analysing performance. If you're not fit or in position where you need to play, then let's call it out.

He was monstered by Draper and not much more effective in the forward line v Mackay.

Out muscled, out bodied, out worked across the ground.

I understand the selection and Petty probably did his best to do what was asked of him. 

But he's not a ruckman bootlace and it's not a solution going forward.  Petty's 'ruck craft' especially at boundary throw-ins was very hard to watch at times. Gave his best but it did not work.

JVR showed much more in the way of agility and body on body stuff. Draper had 9 possessions in the first quarter while against Petty and maybe 10 for the rest of the game after that. 

Without JVR we don't win this game, period. When he went in there we won the clearances 19-11 and controlled the important part of the game. Annoyed that I've already done my votes because I'd definitely have him in there if doing them now.

Edited July 13 by layzie

[pitmaster 3,544]

Even Bomber fans are saying it. (From bomberblitz.com:)

Umpires gave us 3 goals when the game was truly over
Disgraceful evening up I have ever seen- umpire no 22 take a bow

[Supdeano 31]

10 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

You aren't a supporter.

What game did you watch tonight?

Ok champ, tell me who was in your bottom 3 for us then?

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

I’m baffled…is Cox a right or left footer? He took a set shot with his left, thought I was seeing things. And Windsor absolutely destroyed him in the first half.

[Return to Glory 8,435]

7 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Great to get a win for Kozzie's 100th and glad he was able to hit the scoreboard. He had really gained some consistency this year which is due to him spending more time in the middle. He doesn't need to be the matchwinner every week, just needs to play his role and then take the chances when they come like the last 2 weeks.

Crazy to think he's still only 22/23.

Two things we need from Kozzie long term.

1. To get to 200 games

2. To have a very, very big family

 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,207]

4 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Draper had no influence tonight, job done.

Petty, JVR and Disco quelled his influence.

So Essendon mids were all over us were they?

Come on guys give him some credit for disrupting his influence on the game.

Can you imagine if we lost?

f me sideways, hard to please some of you.

 

It was a great team performance and great coaching, but Petty was terrible. I don't think that's a controversial take. He was mosntered in the 1st quarter and only when JVR went to 1st ruck in 2nd quarter did we start to really get on top in the middle. Even then Petty didn't offer much as a forward target, rarely winning or halving the contest and letting his opponent win the ball. He had 3 kicks and 3 handballs.

The team were very impressive and I've praised them in multiple posts, it's ok to be critical as well if other parts of the game which weren't as good, especially when it is not a one off and it is not just being negative for negatives sake. It's part of the discussion.

[Supdeano 31]

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

I understand the selection and Petty probably did his best to do what was asked of him. 

But he's not a ruckman bootlace and it's not a solution going forward.  Petty's 'ruck craft' especially at boundary throw-ins was very hard to watch at times. Gave his best but it did not work.

JVR showed much more in the way of agility and body on body stuff. Draper had 9 possessions in the first quarter while against Petty and maybe 10 for the rest of the game after that. 

Without JVR we don't win this game, period. When he went in there we won the clearances 19-11 and controlled the important part of the game. Annoyed that I've already done my votes because I'd definitely have him in there if doing them now.

Turning to JVR in the ruck absolutely quelled Drapers substantial influence, even if I thought Draper still had his number as well, but wasn't as effective with JVR on him. 

If we didn't make that switch it would have been 6 goals the other way.

The unfortunate thing is petty was poor as both a ruck and a fwd option.

[Bowserpower 141]

It's funny seeing people on here bagging out other posters for being negative when they are the most negative posters here themselves!

[Demonsyoungin45 2]

AMW came off due to a tight calf 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,207]

10 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Was it a wet night there?

How did kolt go?

 

Kolt was very good again, providing an option and banging the ball forward at all costs in the slippery conditions.

Rained pretty heavily just before the first bounce and for parts of the first and 2nd quarters. A bit of rain in the 2nd half but not as heavy.

[layzie 33,793]

23 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

"Who was that to??"

"Don't kick sideways the goals are that way!"

[leave it to deever 17,511]

Can't sleep too pumped from beating Essendon.

[Bowserpower 141]

8 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

I’m baffled…is Cox a right or left footer? He took a set shot with his left, thought I was seeing things. And Windsor absolutely destroyed him in the first half.

Cox is overrated. He's fit but when has he ever shown he can play

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Supdeano said:

Ok champ, tell me who was in your bottom 3 for us then?

Awww who hurt you, fellah?

You’re entitled to your opinion etc. but you can’t afford us the joy of beating that revolting team even just for tonight?? If you’re truly a Melbourne supporter you’d be enjoying the win right now. Bash HP all you like (you’re gonna anyways) but right or wrong, can’t you just leave it alone for tonight?????

 

[Supdeano 31]

1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Awww who hurt you, fellah?

You’re entitled to your opinion etc. but you can’t afford us the joy of beating that revolting team even just for tonight?? If you’re truly a Melbourne supporter you’d be enjoying the win right now. Bash HP all you like (you’re gonna anyways) but right or wrong, can’t you just leave it alone for tonight?????

 

The win is great, especially over them.

Certainly not the only one here calling out HP's game...

If you want to enjoy it without critiquing things, that's fine. But I'm not going to say that everything is all dandy when it isn't

 

[layzie 33,793]

21 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Great to get a win for Kozzie's 100th and glad he was able to hit the scoreboard. He had really gained some consistency this year which is due to him spending more time in the middle. He doesn't need to be the matchwinner every week, just needs to play his role and then take the chances when they come like the last 2 weeks.

Crazy to think he's still only 22/23.

17 pressure acts and if I had to guess they were mostly on the higher scale of pressure act. 

A good game from Koz and another reason why we won.

[ANG13 2,062]

Didn’t get to see all the game due to family commitments. But from what I did see it looked like a good hard game and we played well for a big chunk of it. Pickett’s influence on games at the moment is remarkable he’s really lifting our team performances and I think people are being a bit harsh on McVee saying he will become elite. I think he already is, he’s a gun and one of our best players already. 
 

Great win, love it. 

[Bowserpower 141]

2 minutes ago, Supdeano said:

The win is great, especially over them.

Certainly not the only one here calling out HP's game...

If you want to enjoy it without critiquing things, that's fine. But I'm not going to say that everything is all dandy when it isn't

 

Some people can't hack it. i don't know why they come onto a web forum to discuss the game with others.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, leave it to deever said:

Can't sleep too pumped from beating Essendon.

SAME!!!!! I’m not even halfway home yet, I’ve got a grand total of NO voice, I’m literally wet through to the bone, freezing my @zz off and in a carriage full of red n black sadsacks AND I’M LOVING EVERY SINGLE MINUTE OF IT 🥳🥳🥳

Ima watch the replay when I get home coz I know I won’t be able to sleep.

WE DID IT! WE BEAT ESSENDON!!!

       

Edited July 13 by WalkingCivilWar

[Supdeano 31]

It's ok to win and still be critical.

That's what successful clubs do. Teams like the c*ts and h*wks didn't create premiership dynasties by sitting on their laurels and not being critical about performance.

That's all I'm doing and that's all I suggest you do.

Soak up the win by all means, but always look for areas for improvement. 

[Billy 2,529]

2 hours ago, Tom Dyson said:

So proud of the group for tonight.

Had to beat the umpires, the commentators on Essendon the whole night, the media writing us off the whole week, no max no tracc.

(Aside from the last 7 minutes that definitely got the heart rate going) in tough conditions, the will to keep cracking in at the contest made me just so unbelievably proud. 

Great performance 

JVR into the ruck was the difference 

Please don’t ruck Petty again 

Cudos to Goody l thought Fullerton was harshly done by 

Would love Chunk to give us a bit more credit when he commentates, always seems to talk our opponents up

Edited July 13 by Billy
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[John Demonic 5,788]

4 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Awww who hurt you, fellah?

You’re entitled to your opinion etc. but you can’t afford us the joy of beating that revolting team even just for tonight?? If you’re truly a Melbourne supporter you’d be enjoying the win right now. Bash HP all you like (you’re gonna anyways) but right or wrong, can’t you just leave it alone for tonight?????

 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,367]

Only just got home. Just wow. It was a pleasure to be at the ground to watch us tonight. Even giving up a few goals towards the end when I think Rick was off the ground doesn't take the shine off how well we played as a collective unit.