2 hours ago, COOLX said:

As for backups (temporary possibly) Leek Aleer (GWS) Macrae and Caleb Daniel ( WB ) . 

Hunter offers nothing and to a degree so those Chandler and Sparrow. Where does Spargo rate, anyone. 

Would love Aleer. Is going to be a very good player.

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

You do realise that those 3 all work together and that Taylor has a say in List Management? Also that recruiting doesn't stop at the draft.

Jason Taylor wouldn't have any say in contract negotiations or courting of players from other clubs. That's not his role. 

11 hours ago, mo64 said:

Jason Taylor wouldn't have any say in contract negotiations or courting of players from other clubs. That's not his role. 

I reckon they all have a say in it. 

Lamb's role isnt the draft, yet he's there on draft night every year as part of our team

Edited September 19, 2024Sep 19 by Moonshadow

12 hours ago, mo64 said:

Jason Taylor wouldn't have any say in contract negotiations or courting of players from other clubs. That's not his role. 

But identifying them might be.

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is there something legit about Derkson or would he be just another Pat McKenna who we also got from GWS a number of years ago. 

I think Matt Owies could be useful for us, but I guess we have Spargo who potentially could get himself back into the side.

No mate, this kid can play and has WAY more upside -- he lead GWS VFL Gkicking LY and played very well behind ball this year, they just have a plethora of talls ahead of him and he wants to come to VIC for family reasons (3 kids) and obv opportunity.

On 18/09/2024 at 12:54, dazzledavey36 said:

If we're not going hard on this bloke then I'll fully rage 

 

Would almost be my #1 Dees target right now comp wide, so I dare say we would be and have been keen on him prev.

15 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Would love Aleer. Is going to be a very good player.

I cannot see it with Leek tbh, looks like a duck-out-of-water whenever I see him, def improving though!

Braydon Preuss delisted by GWS.

Ironic how he moved for more opportunities yet he played more games for us as a back up ruck during his two year tenure than he did over four years at the Giants.

2 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Braydon Preuss delisted by GWS.

Ironic how he moved for more opportunities yet he played more games for us as a back up ruck during his two year tenure than he did over four years at the Giants.

If a medical shows he is still capable physically, must be looked at surely!

20 hours ago, mo64 said:

Probably the reason why the Saints have pulled out of the Houston race.

Callaghan is a far more impactful player than Houston, plus has age on his side.

no way

houston is one of the best ball users in the competition

callaghan is a good player, but houston is a two-time all oztrayan for good reason

20 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Yeah, Nibbler basically plays/played as a third winger, with a greater licence to join in on offence.

I don't think we want Spargo in the midfield rotation @dazzledavey36, I'd prefer we go after a Jagga Smith, who has moved into number 1 target spot for us IMO.

Play Charlie between high half forward, wing and deep forward. Charlie getting to the foot of contests like he did in 2018 and 2021 inside 50 made him a dangerous small. Needs to do the same again. I do have concerns about his fitness though given the long lay off. Let's hope he's back on the track soon.

Jagga will be LONG gone I suspect, I am just glad somehow Smilie might be available, after seeing him live -- he is the exact player we need.

7 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

I cannot see it with Leek tbh, looks like a duck-out-of-water whenever I see him, def improving though!

did you see the game where gw$ beat the puddy tatts down at sleepy hollow and it felt like he marked EVERY f50 entry?

12 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

If a medical shows he is still capable physically, must be looked at surely!

I'd be more concerned about his proclivity for striking people during games.

Edited September 19, 2024Sep 19 by Demon Jack

1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

no way

houston is one of the best ball users in the competition

callaghan is a good player, but houston is a two-time all oztrayan for good reason

Callahan is FAR superior to DH, not even close. Diff roles, age a factor in that also.

5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

did you see the game where gw$ beat the puddy tatts down at sleepy hollow and it felt like he marked EVERY f50 entry?

Yes, that is what made me see improvement, but outside of that he has looked a lil shaky.. but def has some talent that much is clear, wld just make me nervous ala Chisholm used to same kinda jitters spring to mind

Edited September 19, 2024Sep 19 by Tolstoys Nudge

I am still holding some hope that there are 1-2 players were into that aren't public yet, seems its not Riccardi or C Brown like i'd hoped or Hogan which I was trying to manifest haha but def feels like there is someone in the wind late.. Callahan feels like a next year one for Saints and anyone else but if available have a crack, issue is gonna be pick5 ie we are NOT moving it for anything! Hence why SH deal won't come back, as we weren't thinking it'd be #5 when he backed-out so am glad he did, the turncoat he is!

Edited September 19, 2024Sep 19 by Tolstoys Nudge

2 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Callahan is FAR superior to DH, not even close. Diff roles, age a factor in that also.

i'm sorry but i just don't see it

houston is a much better ball user by foot, accrues more disposals, impacts the play much more...

personally, i'd like both!

don't see this as a knock on callaghan; more of an indication of how highly houston is as a player in my estimation

5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

i'm sorry but i just don't see it

houston is a much better ball user by foot, accrues more disposals, impacts the play much more...

personally, i'd like both!

don't see this as a knock on callaghan; more of an indication of how highly houston is as a player in my estimation

Finn is certified line breaker, precise by foot and a lethal finisher with pace.. and YOUNG

15 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Finn is certified line breaker, precise by foot and a lethal finisher with pace.. and YOUNG

he's anything but precise by foot imo

Callaghan is a tease, not buying the hype just yet

1 hour ago, adonski said:

Callaghan is a tease, not buying the hype just yet

Fair enough.. but if he was a Demon it'd be a game-changer for me & i'd be hyped-up like a 90's rap MC 🤩

2024 Disposals: 22.9 / 346m gained

2024 Player rating: 11.65 (for perspective, that is similar to say Daniels at GWS, and is better than Langdon has ever had best of 10.1 same exact best rating as Salem coincidentally in his entire career, Finn has played 50 games) So I think saying he is a tease might be a little harsh for a 3rd year player. But get where you are coming from!

For further ref only, Trac goes i50 more than anyone just about and therefore his kicking (which is inconsistent we know) is 55% for career @4.9 i50's per game.. His kicks go 17m on avg, Finn's 16m.

Edited September 19, 2024Sep 19 by Tolstoys Nudge

47 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

he's anything but precise by foot imo

74% disp eff and 66% kicking eff career, lowest being this year but his inside 50's this year was way up to 4 a game from 3 per game so that works hand in hand really. For a line breaker that's running at speed, that is v solid. He takes the kicks most never even attempt which hurts him but that is GWS coaches encouraging him to do so most likely. Comp to Nibbler for instance who went at 53% Kick Eff this year at similar i50 per game (less though 3.4 vs Finn 3.8) Salem for instance goes 72% Career but has only 2 i50 per game and LY went at 68% kicking eff.. Gus is his closest demon career wise and Gus wasn't sprinting 80% of time he kicked.. 

20 Coaches votes this year for me means he has gone form prospect to pro -- but we all have our opinions that is what makes the world go round haha

Perhaps our best trade-in will be if we can somehow get another top-15 pick, feels like a list-changing draft ala Kos/Jackson so if we can get that pick 14 were chasing or anything else, which is something we've always done well, that will bear potential fruit down the line greater than anything else.

 

FWIW I think getting  Membrey, Derkson, Daniel, Owies combo would be solid enough w/youth added to make a massive overall change to the list depth without obv seeing topline like Lever/May which can't be expected most years.. Preuss/Soldo/Crossley as ruck depth would also be something I'd love to see, kid from SA who's a Ruck is also in our current 2nd pick draft range as well.

Edited September 19, 2024Sep 19 by Tolstoys Nudge
duplicated response

On 18/09/2024 at 12:54, dazzledavey36 said:

If we're not going hard on this bloke then I'll fully rage 

 

So long as strapping's outside the salary cap...

Just now, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

So long as strapping's outside the salary cap...

Seriously, though, are his shoulders an issue?