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[layzie 33,648]

8 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Look back over Gus' possession count for 2021. Spargo played the defensive wing. It was about covering and trying to provide an outlet going forward.

I want to use Spargo's aerobic capacity and his ball use, and maximise Windsor's damage as a half back ball user and line breaker. This is the compromise you have to make when you don't land Houston. We need faster and better ball users off half back.

I'd also like to give Windsor 2 or 3 CBAs occasionally to get him used to it.

I sort of feel like Spargo's only chance to make it back into this team is as a high HFF essentially the Nibbler role. Like you I'd love to be able to utilise his kicking into the 50 ability but I just feel like he gets a bit lost when he's deployed on a wing. 

Stanger things happen though, didn't think Gus had any business out wide before we tried it. 

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4 minutes ago, layzie said:

I sort of feel like Spargo's only chance to make it back into this team is as a high HFF essentially the Nibbler role. Like you I'd love to be able to utilise his kicking into the 50 ability but I just feel like he gets a bit lost when he's deployed on a wing. 

Stanger things happen though, didn't think Gus had any business out wide before we tried it. 

Yeah, Nibbler basically plays/played as a third winger, with a greater licence to join in on offence.

I don't think we want Spargo in the midfield rotation @dazzledavey36, I'd prefer we go after a Jagga Smith, who has moved into number 1 target spot for us IMO.

Play Charlie between high half forward, wing and deep forward. Charlie getting to the foot of contests like he did in 2018 and 2021 inside 50 made him a dangerous small. Needs to do the same again. I do have concerns about his fitness though given the long lay off. Let's hope he's back on the track soon.

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17 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Look back over Gus' possession count for 2021. Spargo played the defensive wing. It was about covering and trying to provide an outlet going forward.

I want to use Spargo's aerobic capacity and his ball use, and maximise Windsor's damage as a half back ball user and line breaker. This is the compromise you have to make when you don't land Houston. We need faster and better ball users off half back.

I'd also like to give Windsor 2 or 3 CBAs occasionally to get him used to it.

I like Spargo because he doesn't waste it when he has the ball.  But I do remember him on the wing in a few games last year.  As a concept it makes sense and probably works with the right matchup - but I remember him getting beaten in the air, for pace and strength where he was a liability.  I think the role doesn't fit his strenghts.  

Def agree re Windsor in at centre bounces - he looked very calm and composed in congestion this year which surprised me

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6 hours ago, 58er said:

Houston said Hi !!! 

We're not getting him... so any other defenders we're looking to bring in?

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Parfitt? No……we need some serious talent not list cloggers

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As for backups (temporary possibly) Leek Aleer (GWS) Macrae and Caleb Daniel ( WB ) . 

Hunter offers nothing and to a degree so those Chandler and Sparrow. Where does Spargo rate, anyone. 

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3 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

Saints looking really busy.

Or just taking a scatter gun approach 

[bing181 9,178]

On 14/09/2024 at 01:01, mo64 said:

I have more confidence in Jason Taylor than Tim Lamb/Alan Richardson.

You do realise that those 3 all work together and that Taylor has a say in List Management? Also that recruiting doesn't stop at the draft.

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1 hour ago, COOLX said:

As for backups (temporary possibly) Leek Aleer (GWS) Macrae and Caleb Daniel ( WB ) . 

Hunter offers nothing and to a degree so those Chandler and Sparrow. Where does Spargo rate, anyone. 

Chandler and Sparrow offer nothing?

Have I missed something?

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11 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Chandler and Sparrow offer nothing?

Have I missed something?

We need to be upgrading both players ASAP, they are C grade role players who play 20+ games a year. If they both play a similar amount of footy in 2025 we're in real trouble

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2 hours ago, COOLX said:

Hunter offers nothing

Hear, hear!  Looked ordinary at VFL level in the few games that I watched.

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39 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Chandler and Sparrow offer nothing?

Have I missed something?

I think you have, yes.

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2 hours ago, COOLX said:

As for backups (temporary possibly) Leek Aleer (GWS) Macrae and Caleb Daniel ( WB ) . 

Hunter offers nothing and to a degree so those Chandler and Sparrow. Where does Spargo rate, anyone. 

Would love Aleer. Is going to be a very good player.

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2 hours ago, bing181 said:

You do realise that those 3 all work together and that Taylor has a say in List Management? Also that recruiting doesn't stop at the draft.

Jason Taylor wouldn't have any say in contract negotiations or courting of players from other clubs. That's not his role. 

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11 hours ago, mo64 said:

Jason Taylor wouldn't have any say in contract negotiations or courting of players from other clubs. That's not his role. 

I reckon they all have a say in it. 

Lamb's role isnt the draft, yet he's there on draft night every year as part of our team

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12 hours ago, mo64 said:

Jason Taylor wouldn't have any say in contract negotiations or courting of players from other clubs. That's not his role. 

But identifying them might be.

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1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is there something legit about Derkson or would he be just another Pat McKenna who we also got from GWS a number of years ago. 

I think Matt Owies could be useful for us, but I guess we have Spargo who potentially could get himself back into the side.

No mate, this kid can play and has WAY more upside -- he lead GWS VFL Gkicking LY and played very well behind ball this year, they just have a plethora of talls ahead of him and he wants to come to VIC for family reasons (3 kids) and obv opportunity.

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On 18/09/2024 at 12:54, dazzledavey36 said:

If we're not going hard on this bloke then I'll fully rage 

 

Would almost be my #1 Dees target right now comp wide, so I dare say we would be and have been keen on him prev.

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15 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Would love Aleer. Is going to be a very good player.

I cannot see it with Leek tbh, looks like a duck-out-of-water whenever I see him, def improving though!

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Braydon Preuss delisted by GWS.

Ironic how he moved for more opportunities yet he played more games for us as a back up ruck during his two year tenure than he did over four years at the Giants.

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2 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Braydon Preuss delisted by GWS.

Ironic how he moved for more opportunities yet he played more games for us as a back up ruck during his two year tenure than he did over four years at the Giants.

If a medical shows he is still capable physically, must be looked at surely!

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20 hours ago, mo64 said:

Probably the reason why the Saints have pulled out of the Houston race.

Callaghan is a far more impactful player than Houston, plus has age on his side.

no way

houston is one of the best ball users in the competition

callaghan is a good player, but houston is a two-time all oztrayan for good reason

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20 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Yeah, Nibbler basically plays/played as a third winger, with a greater licence to join in on offence.

I don't think we want Spargo in the midfield rotation @dazzledavey36, I'd prefer we go after a Jagga Smith, who has moved into number 1 target spot for us IMO.

Play Charlie between high half forward, wing and deep forward. Charlie getting to the foot of contests like he did in 2018 and 2021 inside 50 made him a dangerous small. Needs to do the same again. I do have concerns about his fitness though given the long lay off. Let's hope he's back on the track soon.

Jagga will be LONG gone I suspect, I am just glad somehow Smilie might be available, after seeing him live -- he is the exact player we need.

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7 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

I cannot see it with Leek tbh, looks like a duck-out-of-water whenever I see him, def improving though!

did you see the game where gw$ beat the puddy tatts down at sleepy hollow and it felt like he marked EVERY f50 entry?

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12 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

If a medical shows he is still capable physically, must be looked at surely!

I'd be more concerned about his proclivity for striking people during games.

Edited September 19 by Demon Jack