PODCAST: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

[Master Chief 80]

Is anyone else worried about coming up against a team with their backs to wall in the biggest round of footy for their state on the Thursday night big stage? No doubt the Crows will be under a lot of pressure in the Adelaide media this week. Beware a team under the pump. 

How does the panel think we can go about dismantling the Crows?

[pingu 75]

A fantastic win on Saturday. I'm still buzzing. I wish I could have been there to witness some of those ferals in the crowd leaving in silence.

Kudos to the 200 gamer Jack Viney. The guy bleeds red and blue and I nearly shed a tear when he burst through the 50 sidestepping a couple and banged through the goal. What a warrior.

[smurf 233]

On 31/03/2024 at 00:03, smurf said:

@binman what did you make of the fact that we got killed and should have lost the game on expected score?

Apologies for my wording. i meant to say that we got killed on the stats sheet.

[Royal Demon 112]

Last time we played Port I thought we were well beaten in the midfield in particular with the way we set up at Stoppages. Butters and Rozee really shined that night and got the 3 and 2 votes. Butters had 41 touches. Did you guys notice anything we did differently on Saturday night? I didn't think Butters and Rozee were as damaging as they were last year.

[DemonWA 3,934]

Fantastic result. Loved maxys presser and commented RE expected score etc. 

Benny Brown doesn't look like he needs a rest imo. No change!  Although i guess the FD might want to risk May to play on Tex who is their Talisman 

[DemonJack 14 89]

I’m keen to hear the panel’s thoughts on our  tackles inside 50 numbers this year. They are way down compared to last year. 20 to Port Adelaide to our 9 last round. 

Is it because we are trying to play different this year by placing less emphasis on front half football and score more from defensive  half chain ? Or is it that we are not putting enough pressure on in our forward line to lock the ball in and need to improve this stat ? 

[Vipercrunch 2,827]

Just wondering if our stats guru @binman can comment on David Kings latest stat buzzword - The Punish.  I'm not sure when he first raised it, but he spoke about several times on Sundays First Crack, and although I haven't had a listen yet, I expect he will dive into it again today during his Means Test with Whateley.  Seems to be all about how crucial it is to score and defend after turnover.

Cheers guys

[Demonland 72,212]

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[mandeelorian 211]

How huge was Max on Saturday night? 50 Hitouts and that monster goal on the 3/4 time siren is just massive. How lucky are we to have such an influential leader. Not getting into the whole Grundy trade in and out as I was bullish about bringing him in to assist Max and perhaps extend Max's career by giving him a chop out. That's all water under the bridge but Max is so much better as the solo ruck.

[Demonland 72,212]

Just now, mandeelorian said:

How huge was Max on Saturday night? 50 Hitouts and that monster goal on the 3/4 time siren is just massive. How lucky are we to have such an influential leader. Not getting into the whole Grundy trade in and out as I was bullish about bringing him in to assist Max and perhaps extend Max's career by giving him a chop out. That's all water under the bridge but Max is so much better as the solo ruck.

Dangit Mandee. I accidentally unlocked the thread and you snuck out the back and kicked a cheepy. 😜

[Demonland 72,212]

[leave it to deever 17,511]

Another interesting podcast gents for armchair players like me.

I feel like I'm learning quite a bit about the game.

Thanks for explaining expected score.

Do they have computer programs to work out all those permutations?

The metric pressure points....is that simply the tally of all pressure acts of a player throughout the game?

And finally great idea to call anything that brushes the relevant post a behind or goal to eliminate so many reviews. 

Let common sense prevail.

On a lighter side they could make it like cricket and give each team a number of reviews 😃 ps you guys sounded like you were all still stoked by the win.

Edited April 2 by leave it to deever

[demosaw 1,028]

Thanks @Demonland and podcast team. Binman on half speed sounded disturbingly like Mark Robinson.

[Demonland 72,212]

 

[mandeelorian 211]

Another excellent podcast. Thank you for answering my question.

[Demonland 72,212]

Apologies to those still listening via Soundcloud. I have update the past few episodes and will keep them up to date going forward.

[whatwhat say what 22,770]

hmm, still not updated in pocketcasts

to the youtube i go!

[Demonland 72,212]

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

hmm, still not updated in pocketcasts

to the youtube i go!

Did you refresh?

I don’t use Pocketcasts but I have it installed on my phone and it is there. 

[Deeoldfart 8,033]

Great work as always guys. Thank you! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Listened intently this morning, as I wandered through the Adelaide streets and parklands, on a long stroll back to my accommodation from training.

I thought our win over Port was outstanding.  If we can come away from the Adelaide ‘Hub’ with 2 wins, it will set us up beautifully for the season ahead.

Go Demons!  Go Redleggers! 

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,660]

Greta podcast as ALWAYS fellas!

 

Just a few points for me below…

 

— George stated Nibbler played more on-ball support than usual, but Nibs has played the identical role for 2-3hrs now, is always played as an additional mid and as first crack showed it’s to release Trac, always has been. To Binmans point, port mids are nowhere near ours, even WITH JHF.  Boak? More a winger, so then you’ve gotta count Lingers  and Hunter then.. Powell-Pepper is a pressure fwd has been for 2.5yrs now so just some feedback and support for Binman, I’d have Clarry, Trac, Vines, Sparrow, Salem, Langdon, Nibbler over JHF, Rozee, Butters, Boak, Drew ANY DAY in the proverbial rain hail shine! So happy for Nibbler and most of all for the ANB haters, where are they now?!?! Been doing this for years without notice to most, so glad now more can see what he offers us, despite being laughed at for defending him all this time, so kudos to him and Binman for being his biggest supporter & helping inform others 

 

— Binman point re body language of Lingers it’s right of numerous players, inc Ed, who LY looked continually down flat and sad, as did others inc Salem, whereas this year, it’s flipped completely and they all look genuinely delighted to be at the MFC

 

— Viney kicking another good point, 💯 down to being truly MATCH fit for first time following pre season & the extra work he’s done on track and via film on decision-making, brilliant

 

— Also still unsure if anyone’s picked up the change in our zone. I know it feels/looks identical but I can assure you It is absolutely not, it’s far more adaptable, has rotated players through new spots & is more central-focused to neutralise corridor. Might try and raise it as a question next week

 

— Loved caller mentioning Langers, and Andy/George calling it with Binman sharing as always he covered most ground which is EVERY game I think 39/40 or something ridiculous like that. He has been absolutely excellent last 2wks and goes totally unheralded. I think Hunter still comes in and Windsor gets used as the third winger and rotating high HFF with Billings so if all are fit, one is sub it’s that simple, but I think they’ll trial it at least but that’s weeks away yet. Finally named real wingers in AA LY and Ed should be a chance but won’t be cus he plays for us 

 

— Windsor goal, the sheer QUALITY of finish seen there has to get more credit, it absolutely OOZED class, was a 55m kick under pressure, post FULL acceleration - I mean that was a goal maybe 8-10 players in comp can kick due to the speed needed and without deceleration at all, wow! Glad someone called it out, but boy, that was so much more class than most realise it’s not funny, the footwork is instinctive — can’t teach most of what he’s good at and THAT is why he’s so exciting 

 

— Fritta goal great, but AS was BBB’s, I mean what a goal with composure to not react and kick it perfectly then not react to fans at all, he’s just a class human and SO glad he is back in, he adds so much for us via the vacuum, so glad George also caught and mentioned his tap to Fritta, HIGH IQ player who’s so underrated when at what he makes us significantly better 

 

— Those wanting to drop Billings this week, seriously, it wasn’t his night, he got shutdown, and enabled others to thrive. but his disposal is crucial.. who’s coming for him? Until Hunter fit, NO ONE. should’ve kicked that crucial goal but just didn’t get penetration due to the hard running he’d done 

 

— Stoppage scoring is a genuine weapon, port were 2.7 cus their transition wasn’t as clean and had tougher shots, our new style enables that stoppage dominance due to the fed running patterns I’ve been referencing all pre-season, which is another way the new zone or adj zone has helped inc TMac being a much better communicator & thinker than Tommo

 

— Media morons re expected score inc Dermie who made ludicrous joke at end of game in coverage re Goody, SG has EVERY right to mention it, we lost a final after one of most dominant games in history he is a coach he can’t kick for them so it’s his way of talking to how we’re playing re form, THAT is why he talks to it, and why it’s vital cus missing easy shots doesn’t reflect how we’re playing or our competitiveness, and no binman they don’t understand it cus it means simply shows them how the game went if all appropriate goals were kicked it’s that simple my goodness 

 

 

Edited April 3 by Tolstoys Nudge