3 hours ago, Jontee said:

We played too safe.  Curnow said he was going to play with his brother so see you later in 2 years and McKay was troubled???

McKay was widely seen as a player that lacked the required hardness and hunger to make the most of his talent. 
 

On talent alone he was top 5 easily.

I watched him live 3-4 times in his TAC Cup days and he would often drop out of pack for the Joe the Goose or sweep past his teammates for the handball receive. He didn’t act or play like a KPF.

Other times he’d pluck the ball out of the air like he was a man amongst boys and dob goals from outside 50 without raising a sweat. I’d turn to a colleague and we’d discuss how frustrating a prospect he was.

I saw less of Sam but felt he was a 2nd round prospect and his lack of games has never really surprised me. 

52 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Who is Sam Weideman???

Someone who played football at the highest level.

1 minute ago, bush demon said:

Someone who played football at the highest level.

Played well in some finals too! 

4 hours ago, Jontee said:

We played too safe.  Curnow said he was going to play with his brother so see you later in 2 years and McKay was troubled???

Curnow was seen as getting onto trouble too much, which is typical pre-draft smoke and mirrors. McKay brothers were always seen as top end talent.

I was surprised with the Weid selection, particularly given the (now justified) hype of Curnow and the McKay twins

Worth noting the top end talent available at Pick 9

Appart from Curnow and McKay x 2, there was Hipwood, Dan Rioli, HHimmelberg, Doedee, Gresham, Burton, Ben Keays, Josh Dunkley, Blake Hardwick, Jordan Dawson and Nate Broad

But that's hindsight for ya! Not even Jason Taylor is perfect!

Edited April 1, 20242 yr by Moonshadow

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Curnow was seen as getting onto trouble too much, which is typical pre-draft smoke and mirrors. McKay brothers were always seen as top end talent.

I was surprised with the Weid selection, particularly given the (now justified) hype of Curnow and the McKay twins

Curnow is a weird miss I think. He comes from an awesome family and had a few minor things occur but it was over hyped on the negative. Ask any Carlton supporter and Charlie is the last to leave the track signing autographs for kids, volunteers for hospital visits and generally an all round ripping bloke. 
 

May is his kryptonite at the moment though… 😉 

17 hours ago, bush demon said:

Someone who played football at the highest level.

Um, quite a few on this site also did!

17 hours ago, JJJ said:

McKay was widely seen as a player that lacked the required hardness and hunger to make the most of his talent. 
 

On talent alone he was top 5 easily.

I watched him live 3-4 times in his TAC Cup days and he would often drop out of pack for the Joe the Goose or sweep past his teammates for the handball receive. He didn’t act or play like a KPF.

Other times he’d pluck the ball out of the air like he was a man amongst boys and dob goals from outside 50 without raising a sweat. I’d turn to a colleague and we’d discuss how frustrating a prospect he was.

I saw less of Sam but felt he was a 2nd round prospect and his lack of games has never really surprised me. 

On Curnow, how can't that be considered tampering? So basically you choose your destination because of your relatives? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

17 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

On Curnow, how can't that be considered tampering? So basically you choose your destination because of your relatives? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

If we rated him higher than Weideman we would’ve drafted him. I knew of 2 clubs that didn’t think he was a flight risk to Carlton and would’ve taken him had he fallen to them.

Credit to Carlton, they drafted 2 players and spent the time and effort required to develop them into Coleman Medallist’s. They had the requisite skills and make up but Carlton did something right.
 

We went with a guy who was very highly regarded as a 16year old and injured a lot in top age but ticked every box from a personality perspective except for perhaps competitiveness. 

34 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Um, quite a few on this site also did!

Did you play VFL Picket?

22 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Which car did you take on your journey from Briiiiiiighton @Dingo?

Braahtn to Sandy - you could almost risk one of the EVs without too much range anxiety, if driven carefully. 

21 minutes ago, JJJ said:

If we rated him higher than Weideman we would’ve drafted him. I knew of 2 clubs that didn’t think he was a flight risk to Carlton and would’ve taken him had he fallen to them.

Credit to Carlton, they drafted 2 players and spent the time and effort required to develop them into Coleman Medallist’s. They had the requisite skills and make up but Carlton did something right.
 

We went with a guy who was very highly regarded as a 16year old and injured a lot in top age but ticked every box from a personality perspective except for perhaps competitiveness. 

That reminds me - didn’t he miss quite a bit of time with some sort of hip / pelvis injury? 

18 hours ago, bush demon said:

Someone who played football at the highest level.

Occasionally! 

2 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Braahtn to Sandy - you could almost risk one of the EVs without too much range anxiety, if driven carefully. 

That reminds me - didn’t he miss quite a bit of time with some sort of hip / pelvis injury? 

Yes.

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Um, quite a few on this site also did!

Then there's those who sit on the fence.

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Did you play VFL Picket?

Snuck a few under 19 games VFL, VAFA, made state squad vs S.A. not quite tall enough, but had some tricks as a HFF loved a goal or more, hungry mongrel, hated passing it of to lesser lights who I couldn't trust to finish!