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Posted
9 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Those Essendon junk time goals probably skew a few of the key stat areas as well, as we again appeared to run out of gas. 

For sure, partic goals from turnover 

I'm not so sure we did run out of gas. Well maybe a bit (though not the to the same degree as against tjhe liuns and roos) - which i think we just have to accept with such a young team.

And i was amazed the so called experts didn't point out that we were off  a six day break to their 8  - Melk sure did in a post match interview when asked about recovering from his first game back after 12 months.  

I reckon we lost momentum with those two quick goals and couldn't get it back. The umpiring handed the bombers that momentum. I was quietly pleased we didn't give up any more goals. 

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26 minutes ago, binman said:

And i was amazed the so called experts didn't point out that we were off  a six day break to their 8  - Melk sure did in a post match interview when asked about recovering from his first game back after 12 months.  

 

Playing devils advocate I am surprised clubs do not rotate players more during the season.

For Non-Victorian teams (WA in particular) travelling every second week have to contend with the proven fatigue of long-haul flights in combination with the demands of the sport. It seems not allowing players to be "resting" forwards or defenders has almost becoming unforgiving and presents a challenge to AFL high-performance teams to plan recovery sessions to ease the burden of players.

For older players injury risk also increases (ie: Max Gawn) and perhaps clubs need to forward plan during preseason to give players rest at specific times during the season to reduce fatigue and also mange there ongoing loading/training requirements?

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30 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Playing devils advocate I am surprised clubs do not rotate players more during the season.

For Non-Victorian teams (WA in particular) travelling every second week have to contend with the proven fatigue of long-haul flights in combination with the demands of the sport. It seems not allowing players to be "resting" forwards or defenders has almost becoming unforgiving and presents a challenge to AFL high-performance teams to plan recovery sessions to ease the burden of players.

For older players injury risk also increases (ie: Max Gawn) and perhaps clubs need to forward plan during preseason to give players rest at specific times during the season to reduce fatigue and also mange there ongoing loading/training requirements?

Some clubs absolutely do exactly that ie manage players, particularly older players - Geelong being the best example.

The cats have done so in earnest since their premiership season. All their older players are rotated and managed.

Burgess and Griffith seemingly have a different philosophy, and play the same core of players through the fatigue.

Though goody did mention a few weeks ago they planned to rest maxy if they were in a position to do so. Funnily enough the decision had been taken out of their hands.

It's worth noting that even if they did manage a senior player tbat player would still have to a full match load on top of normal  training to ensure they maintained the right levels. 

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Defenders

Tom McDonald (Key Defender  31yo  195cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

#25  T McDonald Rnds 5 to 11 Rnds 12 to 18 % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 5.5 4.8 -12.1 5.2 4.8 -8.1
Uncontested Poss 8.7 9.3 7.7 6.2 8.6 39.9
Effective Disposals* 11.3 11.8 4.4 7.8 11.1 41.2
Disposal Effeciency % 78.7 77.8 -0.9 77.9 80.8 2.9
Contested Marks* 1.7 0.7 -60.0 1.0 1.0 0.0
Marks inside 50* 0.0 0.2 - 1.2 0.1 -94.6
One Percenters* 7.0 8.5 21.4 2.0 7.1 253.1
Clearances* 0.2 0.2 0.0 0.5 0.1 -75.0
Rebound 50s* 4.2 4.3 4.0 0.2 4.2 2412.5
Inside 50s* 1.0 0.5 -50.0 1.7 0.8 -51.3
Tackles* 2.2 1.2 -46.2 1.8 1.8 -1.1
Score Involvements* 2.7 3.2 18.8 4.0 2.8 -29.7
Meters Gained 232.8 310.8 33.5 167.0 255.1 52.8
Turnovers* 2.8 3.0 5.9 2.2 2.6 21.2
Intercepts* 7.7 5.8 -23.9 1.3 6.3 373.4
Tackles Inside 50* 0.0 0.0 - 0.7 0.0 -100.0
Time On Ground % 97.2 96.3 -0.8 77.0 97.2 20.2
Goals* 0.0 0.5 - 1.3 0.2 -85.9
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 - 0.3 0.0 -100.0
*DD's Player Rating  3.2 3.1 -3.7 2.1 3.1 48.7

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Defenders

Steven May (Key Defender  32yo  193cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

#1  S May Rnds 5 to 11 Rnds 12 to 18 % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 3.7 3.8 4.5 4.5 3.9 -12.7
Uncontested Poss 10.7 8.3 -21.9 8.4 10.0 19.0
Effective Disposals* 16.7 15.2 -9.0 14.2 15.9 11.7
Disposal Effeciency % 82.8 86.0 3.2 82.4 85.7 3.3
Contested Marks* 1.0 1.0 0.0 1.2 1.2 -5.9
Marks inside 50* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
One Percenters* 5.8 7.0 20.0 6.5 6.2 -4.8
Clearances* 0.2 0.0 -100.0 0.1 0.1 -
Rebound 50s* 5.2 6.0 16.1 6.2 5.6 -9.7
Inside 50s* 0.7 0.8 25.0 1.3 0.8 -41.7
Tackles* 0.2 1.2 600.0 1.6 1.0 -40.0
Score Involvements* 3.7 1.7 -54.5 2.0 2.7 29.6
Meters Gained 383.0 353.5 -7.7 407.3 374.8 -8.0
Turnovers* 2.5 2.7 6.7 4.6 2.6 -43.9
Intercepts* 6.2 5.8 -5.4 6.7 6.0 -10.3
Tackles Inside 50* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
Time On Ground % 94.3 94.8 0.5 97.1 93.9 -3.2
Goals* 0.2 0.0 -100.0 0.0 0.1 -
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  3.8 3.5 -7.9 3.2 3.7 15.2

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Mid Field (Wing)

Ed Langdon (Key Defender  28yo  182cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

#15  Ed Langdon Rnds 5   to 11 Rnds 12 to 18  % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 5.2 6.8 31.4 6.8 6.3 -7.7
Uncontested Poss 15.0 13.8 -7.8 14.0 13.9 -0.4
Effective Disposals* 15.4 15.0 -2.6 15.2 14.7 -3.3
Disposal Effeciency % 75.3 74.5 -0.8 75.6 74.6 -1.0
Contested Marks* 0.2 0.0 -100.0 0.0 0.1 37.5
Marks inside 50* 0.8 0.8 4.2 0.5 0.8 65.0
One Percenters* 0.2 0.8 316.7 1.0 0.8 -18.8
Clearances* 1.0 2.2 116.7 1.8 1.5 -17.5
Rebound 50s* 2.2 2.3 6.1 2.0 2.4 16.1
Inside 50s* 3.0 1.7 -44.4 3.3 2.2 -34.1
Tackles* 2.4 2.3 -2.8 2.4 2.4 -1.4
Score Involvements* 5.2 5.2 -0.6 3.9 4.6 18.3
Meters Gained 345.6 256.3 -25.8 345.4 280.3 -18.9
Turnovers* 3.8 3.0 -21.1 4.4 3.2 -27.7
Intercepts* 2.8 3.0 7.1 4.2 3.0 -28.3
Tackles Inside 50* 0.2 0.0 -100.0 0.3 0.1 -54.2
Time On Ground % 90.6 96.2 5.6 94.8 93.1 -1.7
Goals* 0.2 0.3 66.7 0.2 0.3 37.5
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  3.1 3.3 6.7 3.1 3.1 2.5

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Mid Field (Wing)

Caleb Windsor (Key Defender  19yo  185cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

#6  C Windsor Rnds 5  to 11 Rnds 12 to 18  % Change
Contested Poss 4.8 5.2 8.7
Uncontested Poss 10.7 11.0 3.2
Effective Disposals* 9.8 10.5 7.5
Disposal Effeciency % 66.1 65.1 -1.0
Contested Marks* 0.0 0.2 -
Marks inside 50* 0.0 0.0 -
One Percenters* 1.1 0.5 -53.1
Clearances* 1.8 2.0 12.6
Rebound 50s* 1.2 1.3 7.2
Inside 50s* 2.3 3.0 29.9
Tackles* 2.0 3.0 53.5
Score Involvements* 3.7 3.8 2.8
Meters Gained 275.8 336.3 21.9
Turnovers* 2.8 2.8 -0.3
Intercepts* 2.0 2.3 19.4
Tackles Inside 50* 0.0 0.8 -
Time On Ground % 78.3 81.0 2.7
Goals* 0.2 0.3 87.7
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  2.1 2.5 15.8

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Midfield

Tom Sparrow (Mid - Forward 24yo  183cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

For whatever reason it's fair to say Tom is struggling (statistically) so far this season.  Even the last 6 weeks have seen him drop away in most metrics bar clearances, rebound 50s and tackles inside 50.

In particular his one percenters, tackles and uncontested possessions are down substantially over this latest block.  Intercepts also down by a fair margin.

#32  T Sparrow Rnds 5  to 11 Rnds 12 to 18 % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 5.7 5.5 -2.9 6.0 5.7 -4.9
Uncontested Poss 10.7 8.7 -18.8 11.8 9.5 -19.0
Effective Disposals* 10.2 8.5 -16.4 12.8 10.2 -20.3
Disposal Effeciency % 64.2 60.6 -3.6 72.1 68.0 -4.1
Contested Marks* 0.0 0.2 - 0.1 0.1 -17.6
Marks inside 50* 0.2 0.2 0.0 0.3 0.1 -58.8
One Percenters* 2.2 1.0 -53.8 1.7 1.4 -18.8
Clearances* 1.7 2.5 50.0 2.3 2.2 -6.7
Rebound 50s* 1.3 1.8 37.5 1.3 1.5 10.3
Inside 50s* 2.5 2.2 -13.3 2.7 2.7 -0.3
Tackles* 4.5 2.7 -40.7 3.6 3.9 8.7
Score Involvements* 3.7 3.0 -18.2 3.9 3.9 0.7
Meters Gained 287.5 275.0 -4.3 269.2 266.8 -0.9
Turnovers* 4.8 3.7 -24.1 3.7 3.7 1.1
Intercepts* 2.5 1.8 -26.7 2.4 2.2 -8.6
Tackles Inside 50* 0.5 0.7 33.3 0.4 0.4 -3.9
Time On Ground % 77.3 73.3 -4.0 75.2 74.6 -0.5
Goals* 0.0 0.2 - 0.5 0.2 -50.6
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  2.1 1.9 -11.7 2.8 2.4 -16.0

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Midfield

Jack Viney (Mid 30yo  179cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

Jack having a few ups and downs this season.  Disposal accuracy in the last 6 weeks a fair way off the previous 6.

#7  J Viney Rnds 5  to 11 Rnds 12 to 18 % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 9.2 10.7 16.4 11.6 10.4 -10.5
Uncontested Poss 11.0 11.7 6.1 14.0 11.5 -17.4
Effective Disposals* 12.3 10.8 -12.2 16.0 12.6 -21.1
Disposal Effeciency % 65.0 49.3 -15.7 62.9 59.5 -3.5
Contested Marks* 0.2 0.2 0.0 0.1 0.1 -0.0
Marks inside 50* 0.3 0.2 -0.2 0.3 0.2 -26.1
One Percenters* 1.8 1.5 -18.2 1.5 1.5 -2.0
Clearances* 4.8 4.8 0.0 5.0 5.0 -0.9
Rebound 50s* 2.0 1.5 -25.0 1.2 1.6 34.2
Inside 50s* 5.2 5.2 0.0 5.2 5.2 -1.0
Tackles* 7.0 5.7 -19.0 6.0 6.3 4.9
Score Involvements* 3.3 4.5 35.0 4.9 4.5 -7.7
Meters Gained 401.0 355.0 -11.5 375.6 380.7 1.3
Turnovers* 5.8 5.7 -2.9 5.6 5.2 -7.4
Intercepts* 1.7 2.5 50.0 3.3 2.1 -37.1
Tackles Inside 50* 1.3 0.7 -50.0 0.7 1.0 37.5
Time On Ground % 75.3 76.8 1.5 79.1 76.5 -3.2
Goals* 0.3 0.2 -50.0 0.4 0.4 13.2
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  2.9 2.7 -7.2 3.7 3.2 -14.2

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Midfield

Clayton Oliver (Mid 26yo  189cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

Unfortunately no recovery for Clarry over the last 6 weeks.  Dropping away even further and significantly so.  You have to wonder when the bounce / turnaround might commence.  Looking like we may have to wait till 2025 at this point.

#13  C Oliver Rnds 5  to 11 Rnds 12 to 18 % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 12.3 9.8 -20.3 14.5 10.9 -24.7
Uncontested Poss 12.8 11.5 -10.4 16.2 12.6 -22.1
Effective Disposals* 18.8 13.8 -26.5 20.4 16.2 -20.6
Disposal Effeciency % 77.0 63.6 -13.4 67.5 67.2 -0.3
Contested Marks* 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 -
Marks inside 50* 0.2 0.0 -0.2 0.2 0.1 -61.8
One Percenters* 0.7 0.8 25.0 2.0 0.9 -52.9
Clearances* 4.2 3.5 -16.0 6.6 4.4 -33.3
Rebound 50s* 1.5 1.5 0.0 2.4 1.2 -50.7
Inside 50s* 2.8 3.0 5.9 5.2 3.6 -30.4
Tackles* 5.0 3.7 -26.7 6.3 4.1 -35.7
Score Involvements* 4.2 3.8 -8.0 7.0 4.6 -34.5
Meters Gained 265.7 299.8 12.9 438.5 324.5 -26.0
Turnovers* 4.2 4.3 4.0 5.7 4.6 -19.4
Intercepts* 5.2 3.3 -35.5 4.8 3.8 -21.1
Tackles Inside 50* 0.5 0.3 -33.3 1.1 0.5 -56.3
Time On Ground % 77.0 78.7 1.7 83.5 77.4 -6.1
Goals* 0.0 0.3 - 0.5 0.2 -61.8
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  4.1 3.0 -27.6 5.0 3.5 -29.3

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Midfield

Max Gawn (Ruck 32yo  209cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 17   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

Didn't see this slide coming.  20%+ over the last 6 weeks is a pretty large number.  Having said that Max was still tracking above his 2023 season average of 3.4  Hopefully no underlying issues behind this.  

#11  M Gawn Rnds 5 to 11 Rnds 12 to 17  % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 13.2 11.4 -13.2 11.2 12.1 8.4
Uncontested Poss 7.3 6.5 -11.8 6.4 7.5 16.5
Effective Disposals* 14.2 10.6 -25.5 10.6 12.1 14.2
Disposal Effeciency % 66.0 61.9 -4.1 60.4 62.6 2.2
Contested Marks* 2.5 1.7 -31.0 2.2 1.9 -14.1
Marks inside 50* 1.2 0.6 -44.6 0.7 0.8 4.1
One Percenters* 3.2 3.7 15.7 3.0 2.9 -4.1
Clearances* 6.5 4.3 -33.7 4.3 5.2 21.5
Rebound 50s* 2.5 1.7 -31.0 1.2 2.3 90.1
Inside 50s* 3.3 2.2 -35.3 3.4 2.7 -20.3
Tackles* 2.5 2.2 -13.8 2.2 2.8 30.4
Score Involvements* 6.2 5.0 -19.6 4.8 5.9 21.5
Meters Gained 298.5 237.9 -20.3 282.6 283.8 0.4
Turnovers* 3.3 2.6 -22.4 3.8 3.1 -19.0
Intercepts* 4.0 3.0 -24.6 3.0 3.8 27.9
Tackles Inside 50* 0.0 0.2 - 0.5 0.3 -51.4
Time On Ground % 85.3 88.6 3.2 84.5 86.0 1.5
Goals* 0.8 0.6 -22.4 0.5 0.6 9.3
Hit Outs to Adv* 8.7 8.8 2.0 8.1 9.6 19.1
*DD's Player Rating  4.7 3.6 -22.6 3.4 4.2 24.5

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Forwards

Alex Neal-Bullen (Medium Forward  28yo  182cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

Alex having a great season.  A 21% improvement on his 2023 rating so far is no mean feat, no doubt some of that as a result of time spent through the middle.  Holding that form over the last six weeks as well.

#30  A Neil-Bullen Rnds 5 to 11 Rnds 12 to 18 % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 8.3 7.5 -10.0 5.4 7.6 40.7
Uncontested Poss 12.0 11.0 -8.3 10.0 11.6 15.9
Effective Disposals* 14.2 12.7 -10.6 10.8 13.2 22.2
Disposal Effeciency % 68.6 71.7 3.0 69.2 69.0 -0.3
Contested Marks* 0.0 0.3 - 0.0 0.1 -
Marks inside 50* 0.2 0.2 0.0 0.4 0.3 -32.4
One Percenters* 1.0 0.7 -33.3 1.2 1.0 -14.8
Clearances* 3.2 2.5 -21.1 0.9 2.6 197.6
Rebound 50s* 1.3 1.2 -12.5 0.5 1.3 148.0
Inside 50s* 3.0 2.5 -16.7 3.3 2.7 -17.0
Tackles* 5.2 5.0 -3.2 4.7 4.8 2.7
Score Involvements* 3.8 4.7 21.7 4.5 4.5 1.1
Meters Gained 293.8 246.3 -16.2 287.4 263.7 -8.2
Turnovers* 3.8 3.3 -13.0 3.6 3.9 7.6
Intercepts* 2.5 3.8 53.3 2.3 2.9 25.3
Tackles Inside 50* 1.2 0.5 -57.1 0.9 0.8 -5.3
Time On Ground % 79.7 84.0 4.3 76.9 81.1 4.2
Goals* 0.3 0.2 -50.0 0.7 0.4 -44.3
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  3.2 3.1 -1.4 2.5 3.1 20.7

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Thanks DD the fact that our senior players Max, JV, ANB, TMac, Rick, Spaz and May have all dropped off between rounds 12-18 indicates that they are either increasing their work loads or are starting to fade. Given that they have all dropped off at the same time tells me it is the former. What are your thoughts DD and let’s hope it starts trending back up across the board.

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Forwards

Kade Chandler (Small Forward  24yo  175cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

#37  K Chandler Rnds 5  to 11 Rnds 12 to 18 % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 3.8 4.0 4.3 4.5 4.1 -7.5
Uncontested Poss 9.2 7.3 -20.0 8.1 8.4 3.4
Effective Disposals* 7.3 8.7 18.2 9.0 8.5 -6.4
Disposal Effeciency % 60.9 75.7 14.8 76.2 71.2 -5.1
Contested Marks* 0.0 0.2 - 0.1 0.1 -0.1
Marks inside 50* 0.5 0.0 -100.0 1.1 0.5 -57.7
One Percenters* 1.0 0.8 -16.7 0.6 1.0 59.0
Clearances* 0.7 0.7 0.0 0.5 0.9 76.9
Rebound 50s* 0.2 0.7 300.0 0.4 0.5 36.8
Inside 50s* 2.8 1.2 -58.8 2.3 2.4 3.5
Tackles* 5.0 4.2 -16.7 2.8 4.5 62.1
Score Involvements* 3.3 2.8 -15.0 4.7 3.6 -23.1
Meters Gained 234.0 133.0 -43.2 167.9 201.4 19.9
Turnovers* 2.7 2.2 -18.8 2.2 2.4 10.8
Intercepts* 0.7 1.3 100.0 1.3 0.9 -25.2
Tackles Inside 50* 1.7 1.0 -40.0 1.1 1.6 49.2
Time On Ground % 81.5 77.3 -4.2 73.0 79.3 6.3
Goals* 0.7 0.5 -25.0 1.2 0.8 -34.1
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  1.9 2.0 7.6 2.3 2.1 -5.6

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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2 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Thanks DD the fact that our senior players Max, JV, ANB, TMac, Rick, Spaz and May have all dropped off between rounds 12-18 indicates that they are either increasing their work loads or are starting to fade. Given that they have all dropped off at the same time tells me it is the former. What are your thoughts DD and let’s hope it starts trending back up across the board.

From what i am seeing DZ ... Sparrow has shown a drop off in form as the year's progressed.

With Max i have to admit i did not see a drop away in form in a trend sense in that last six weeks.  More just the odd match, especially his last few.  But a 23% drop (statistically) is substantial so there may be some issue here.

Lever yes but only due to a return from his surgery.  To be expected i guess.  His last game was very good though so maybe he is well on the way back to his early season highs.

Max & Lever are still tracking above their 2023 season ratings as well so that suggests they're still performing at a decent level, even if it has dropped away somewhat.

Jack & Sparrow, not to be confused with the Johnny Depp character,  are a different matter in that their ratings have never quite reached their 2023 levels and are now well below.  While also dropping away further in the last six weeks.

I suspect each player goes through their ups & downs in season DZ.  More than likely soreness, niggles.  For example Jack has had that shoulder stinger popping up in pretty much every other game so far.  That might be inhibiting his ability to train as hard as usual or complete certain contact aspects of training etc?

Shorter breaks between matches might be effecting some of the older boys as well.  It's a very long season and within that season a player's form is probably going to ebb and flow depending on where they sit physically and mentally from match to match.

Personally i don't think we'd be loading up the more senior players with anything too crazy in terms of extras.  In fact i think it may the opposite where they're given individual programs in terms of running and gym loads with the degree of load relating to the time between matches, time played in game the previous week/s, amount of kilometers run in match as well as reflecting their age factor.

Of course we will never really know the truth on any of this given we are a long way from the inner sanctum.  Still, no harm in discussing and hearing different views on these matters.

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Player Rating Review (three quarter time) - Forwards

Kysaiah Pickett (Small Forward  23yo  171cm)

Rnd 7 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

It almost feels like someone or something flicked a switch that turned on an extra cylinder or two in Kozzy's engine.  A 30% increase in the last six weeks ...crazy good result.

Possibly the arrival of the bambino?  Less time spent in the middle and more time in his usual HF role?

Whatever it is, keep it coming! 

#36  K Pickett Rnds 7  to 11 Rnds 12 to 18 % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 6.4 5.8 -8.9 5.2 5.7 9.5
Uncontested Poss 8.8 7.5 -14.8 6.2 7.9 27.1
Effective Disposals* 8.4 9.0 7.1 7.0 9.0 27.7
Disposal Effeciency % 54.3 65.2 11.0 59.5 66.5 7.0
Contested Marks* 0.0 0.3 - 0.1 0.3 250.0
Marks inside 50* 0.6 1.8 205.6 1.3 1.1 -11.9
One Percenters* 1.2 0.5 -58.3 1.3 0.8 -40.0
Clearances* 2.0 2.2 8.3 1.2 1.9 50.8
Rebound 50s* 0.0 0.0 - 0.1 0.1 -53.3
Inside 50s* 3.6 4.2 15.7 2.4 3.3 37.2
Tackles* 3.4 3.0 -11.8 4.1 3.4 -17.9
Score Involvements* 5.4 7.2 32.7 5.6 6.0 7.7
Meters Gained 312.2 325.7 4.3 217.7 277.1 27.3
Turnovers* 4.4 2.5 -43.2 3.2 2.6 -18.5
Intercepts* 1.8 0.3 -81.5 0.8 1.1 40.0
Tackles Inside 50* 0.8 1.5 87.5 2.0 1.1 -42.0
Time On Ground % 87.2 81.5 -5.7 82.0 85.0 3.0
Goals* 1.4 2.0 42.9 1.6 1.7 2.9
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  2.1 2.8 30.5 2.1 2.6 23.9

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Bayley Fritsch (Medium Forward  27yo  188cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

#31  B Fritsch Rnds 5 to 11 Rnds 12 to 18 % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 3.3 5.5 65.0 4.6 4.1 -10.9
Uncontested Poss 5.3 5.5 3.1 8.0 5.3 -34.1
Effective Disposals* 6.0 6.0 0.0 7.7 5.9 -22.6
Disposal Effeciency % 68.7 57.1 -11.7 61.2 64.7 3.6
Contested Marks* 1.0 0.3 -66.7 0.9 0.8 -3.4
Marks inside 50* 1.7 1.2 -30.0 2.3 1.5 -32.8
One Percenters* 0.7 0.5 -25.0 1.5 0.6 -56.6
Clearances* 0.0 0.2 - 0.0 0.1 -
Rebound 50s* 0.5 0.3 -33.3 0.0 0.3 -
Inside 50s* 1.2 1.8 57.1 2.6 1.5 -41.8
Tackles* 0.7 2.0 200.0 1.6 1.4 -13.6
Score Involvements* 5.0 5.7 13.3 6.1 5.5 -9.5
Meters Gained 191.8 216.7 12.9 269.2 198.4 -26.3
Turnovers* 2.0 3.0 50.0 2.5 2.1 -17.2
Intercepts* 0.7 1.7 150.0 1.5 0.9 -36.9
Tackles Inside 50* 0.5 0.8 66.7 0.7 0.8 7.6
Time On Ground % 86.8 88.7 1.8 86.3 88.9 2.6
Goals* 2.2 1.3 -38.5 2.4 2.1 -14.8
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  1.7 1.7 -4.1 2.3 1.9 -20.3

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Harrison Petty (Key Forward  24yo  197cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 12 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

Has Harry finally stopped flat lining?  Coming off a very low base and still 53% down on his 2023 rating but there appears to be some life in the last six weeks vs the prior six.

#35  H Petty Rnds 5 to 11 Rnds 12 to 18  % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 3.2 4.2 31.7 4.7 4.0 -15.3
Uncontested Poss 3.7 4.9 29.9 7.2 4.5 -38.1
Effective Disposals* 3.4 5.7 68.5 9.8 4.9 -49.7
Disposal Effeciency % 46.5 68.4 21.9 95.2 57.2 -38.0
Contested Marks* 1.4 1.3 -11.1 1.1 1.5 37.5
Marks inside 50* 1.2 1.3 1.6 1.6 1.2 -24.8
One Percenters* 1.2 1.3 1.6 3.9 1.3 -66.5
Clearances* 0.2 0.0 -100.0 0.2 0.1 -55.3
Rebound 50s* 0.4 0.6 77.8 1.3 0.8 -38.6
Inside 50s* 1.4 1.7 18.6 0.7 1.4 88.6
Tackles* 2.3 3.2 36.8 2.5 2.6 3.8
Score Involvements* 2.7 3.2 18.6 2.7 2.9 8.3
Meters Gained 108.2 173.8 60.7 154.3 142.4 -7.7
Turnovers* 3.2 3.2 -1.2 1.7 3.1 78.7
Intercepts* 0.7 1.9 166.8 4.0 1.5 -61.7
Tackles Inside 50* 0.5 1.3 137.1 0.7 0.7 0.5
Time On Ground % 82.4 83.3 0.9 89.6 81.6 -8.0
Goals* 0.2 0.4 137.1 1.0 0.3 -70.2
Hit Outs to Adv* 1.1 0.8 -21.0 0.2 0.7 197.8
*DD's Player Rating  0.9 1.5 74.2 2.7 1.3 -52.7

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Jacob van Rooyen (Key Forward  21yo  193cm)

Rnd 5 to Rnd 11 vs Rnd 13 to 18   +   H&A Season 2023 vs H&A Season 2024

A significant uptick in JVR's rating in the last six weeks.  24%!  Something has clicked yes? 

Contested marks, marks inside 50 and goals in particular.

Also worth noting, in our two biggest losses this season (Rnd 10 vs the Eagles & Rnd 12 vs Freo) he did not play :rolleyes:

#2  J van Rooyen Rnds 5 to 11 Rnds 13 to 18  % Change 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 5.6 6.0 7.1 4.6 4.9 5.1
Uncontested Poss 5.3 6.2 16.3 5.6 5.5 -2.9
Effective Disposals* 7.2 7.8 8.8 7.8 7.5 -4.1
Disposal Effeciency % 82.1 68.4 -13.7 80.2 74.6 -5.6
Contested Marks* 0.5 1.8 260.0 1.0 1.0 0.0
Marks inside 50* 1.3 2.6 95.0 1.6 1.7 6.2
One Percenters* 1.5 2.2 46.7 1.9 1.7 -8.5
Clearances* 0.8 0.8 -4.0 0.5 0.8 68.9
Rebound 50s* 0.0 0.8 - 0.0 0.3 -
Inside 50s* 1.3 0.6 -55.0 1.4 1.2 -15.6
Tackles* 2.3 2.0 -14.3 2.4 1.8 -25.7
Score Involvements* 4.2 5.2 24.8 4.3 4.6 7.9
Meters Gained 141.2 211.8 50.0 138.0 161.1 16.7
Turnovers* 1.8 2.2 20.0 1.7 2.0 15.2
Intercepts* 0.5 1.0 100.0 0.4 0.7 58.3
Tackles Inside 50* 1.0 0.2 -80.0 1.2 0.5 -59.7
Time On Ground % 75.7 76.0 0.3 75.1 75.3 0.3
Goals* 1.3 2.0 50.0 1.4 1.5 7.9
Hit Outs to Adv* 1.2 1.6 37.1 1.1 1.3 14.6
*DD's Player Rating  2.0 2.5 24.0 2.2 2.1 -1.9

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Melbourne v Fremantle (Round 19, 2024)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20241904

Key Team Stats

Stats highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Stat For Against Diff
Disposal Efficiency 73.7 75.7 -2.0
Kicking Efficiency 68.2 64.4 +3.8
Metres Gained 5801 6458 -657
Inside 50s 47 60 -13
Shots At Goal 18 35 -17
Shots Per Inside 50 38.3 58.3 -20.0
Contested Possessions 105 141 -36
Ground Ball Gets 84 88 -4
Intercepts 74 66 +8
Intercept Marks 15 16 -1
Centre Clearances 8 17 -9
Stoppage Clearances 8 30 -22
Contested Marks 8 11 -3
Marks Inside 50 13 21 -8
Hitouts 9 47 -38
Hitouts To Advantage 0 17 -17
Tackles 50 32 +18
Tackles Inside 50 14 4 +10
Def One On One Loss % 28.6 0.0 +28.6

Contested Possessions

  For Against Diff
Melbourne's Defensive 50
Hard Ball Get 5 5 0
Loose Ball Get 18 10 +8
Contested Mark 2 2 0
Ruck Hard Ball Get 0 1 -1
Gather From Hitout 0 1 -1
Contested Knock On 2 0 +2
Free For 2 2 0
Total 29 21 +8
Melbourne's Forward 50
Hard Ball Get 2 8 -6
Loose Ball Get 6 12 -6
Contested Mark 1 2 -1
Gather From Hitout 0 3 -3
Free For 0 2 -2
Total 9 27 -18
Post clearance
Hard Ball Get 11 14 -3
Loose Ball Get 49 46 +3
Contested Mark 8 11 -3
Contested Knock On 2 3 -1
Free For 7 12 -5
Total 77 86 -9
Pre clearance
Hard Ball Get 7 7 0
Loose Ball Get 17 21 -4
Ruck Hard Ball Get 0 5 -5
Gather From Hitout 0 16 -16
Contested Knock On 0 1 -1
Free For 4 5 -1
Total 28 55 -27
  • Official data on pre- and post-clearance contested possessions are not available. These have been estimated by Wheelo Ratings and should be indicative.
  • Ground ball gets are inclusive of hard ball gets and loose ball gets.
  • 'Free For' does not include free kicks to advantage or free kicks while in possession of the ball as these are not counted as contested possessions.

Expected scores

  xScore Score Rushed xWin % xMargin Margin Swing
Melbourne 60.5 66 1 0%     +14.6
Fremantle 125.0 116 2 100% +64.6 +50  
Team Shots Score Accuracy xScore +/- xSc. /
Shot
Shot
Rating
Overall
Melbourne 18 10.5.65 55.6% 59.5 +5.5 3.30 +0.31
Fremantle 35 17.12.114 48.6% 123.0 −9.0 3.51 −0.26
General Play
Melbourne 5 2.2.14 40.0% 14.1 −0.1 2.81 −0.01
Fremantle 13 5.5.35 38.5% 44.9 −9.9 3.45 −0.76
Set Position
Melbourne 13 8.3.51 61.5% 45.4 +5.6 3.49 +0.43
Fremantle 22 12.7.79 54.5% 78.2 +0.8 3.55 +0.04
  • xWin %: win probability based on expected scores.
  • Swing: difference between expected margin and actual margin.
  • xScore: total expected score from all shots taken.
  • +/-: total score above or below expected score.
  • xSc. / Shot: average expected score per shot. This represents the average shot difficulty.
  • Shot Rating: average score above or below expected score per shot at goal.

Notes: Expected scores are calculated by Wheelo Ratings. Each shot at goal is assigned an expected score based on the distance from goal, shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure. The model does not take into account factors like the player, whether the ball was kicked with their preferred or non-preferred foot, and pressure on the player when taking the shot. Rushed behinds are excluded from actual and expected scores.

 

 

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter For Agn Diff
1 168 148 +20
2 149 148 +1
3 195 159 +36
4 177 161 +16
Match 173 154 +19

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player Pressure
Acts
Pressure
Points
Season
Average
Kysaiah Pickett 30 65 41.9
Kade Chandler 27 56 45.7
Alex Neal-Bullen 31 55 53.2
Tom Sparrow 27 53 43.9
Clayton Oliver 21 48 44.3
Harrison Petty 19 45 30.0
Jack Viney 20 42 57.6
Trent Rivers 18 36 28.7
Caleb Windsor 16 34 33.0
Ed Langdon 15 30 31.1
Christian Salem 13 28 26.7
Jake Bowey 10 28 17.2
Andy Moniz-Wakefield 11 23 33.5
Jacob van Rooyen 10 22 17.6
Bayley Fritsch 8 17 15.7
Tom McDonald 8 15 20.6
Jake Lever 7 14 14.6
Koltyn Tholstrup 9 13 34.5
Jack Billings 8 12 22.8
Judd McVee 10 12 14.6
Daniel Turner 4 12 14.1
Jake Melksham 6 11 11.0
Steven May 5 11 10.0

Source: Herald Sun

Time in Forward Half

Quarter For Against
1 33% 67%
2 36% 64%
3 68% 32%
4 44% 56%
Match 47% 53%

Source: Match total sourced from the Herald Sun; quarter values are my own calculations.

Score Sources

Summary

Category Score Against Diff
Kick-in 2.1.13 0.0.0 +13
Centre Bounce 1.0.6 1.2.8 -2
Stoppage (Other) 1.0.6 3.5.23 -17
Turnover 6.5.41 13.7.85 -44
Score Source For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in 13 3.2 0 2.2
Centre Bounce 6 10.0 8 7.3
Stoppage (Other) 6 22.2 23 19.2
Turnover 41 43.4 85 48.9

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Fremantle.

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective.

Category Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Centre Bounce Centre 6 10.0 8 7.3
Kick-in D50 13 3.2 0 2.2
Stoppage (Other) D50 0 2.3 0 1.4
Stoppage (Other) Centre 0 1.9 1 1.8
Stoppage (Other) Wing 6 12.6 7 8.9
Stoppage (Other) F50 0 5.3 15 6.9
Turnover D50 8 8.6 32 8.6
Turnover Centre 18 8.1 13 7.6
Turnover Wing 9 20.3 39 26.6
Turnover F50 6 6.4 1 6.2
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
D50 21 14.1 32 12.3
Centre 24 20.0 22 16.7
Wing 15 32.9 46 35.5
F50 6 11.7 16 13.1
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Defensive 50 21 14.1 32 12.3
Defensive midfield 6 17.9 32 19.3
Centre bounce 6 10.0 8 7.3
Attacking midfield 27 25.0 28 25.6
Forward 50 6 11.7 16 13.1

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Fremantle.

Points from defensive half

For Against
Match Season Match Season *
27 32.0 64 31.6

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Fremantle.

Centre Bounce Attendances

  CBAs CBA % 2024 % 2023 %
Clayton Oliver 21 72% 71.5% 81.4%
Jack Viney 20 69% 67.5% 72.1%
Jacob van Rooyen 15 52% 19.4% 7.6%
Alex Neal-Bullen 14 48% 17.0% 2.1%
Harrison Petty 14 48% 10.0% 0.7%
Kysaiah Pickett 10 34% 37.6% 11.2%
Tom Sparrow 10 34% 36.3% 44.9%
Trent Rivers 8 28% 21.0% 3.0%
Christian Salem 4 14% 14.7% 0.0%
Koltyn Tholstrup 0 0% 1.2%  
Daniel Turner 0 0% 0.4% 0.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 5.7%
Max Gawn     84.3% 64.9%
Christian Petracca     55.8% 61.1%
Josh Schache     8.3% 0.0%
Bailey Laurie     4.4% 0.0%
Charlie Spargo     4.2% 0.0%
Lachie Hunter     0.0% 0.2%

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

  Ruck
Contests
RC % 2024 % 2023 %
Jacob van Rooyen 30 41% 18.0% 13.1%
Harrison Petty 28 38% 9.5% 2.0%
Daniel Turner 15 21% 4.3% 0.0%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Clayton Oliver 0 0% 0.0% 0.1%
Steven May 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 9.3%
Tom Sparrow 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Max Gawn     81.4% 57.5%
Josh Schache     13.3% 4.1%
Ben Brown     0.2% 2.3%
Christian Petracca     0.0% 0.4%

Hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
To Adv. %
(2024)
To Adv. %
(2023)
Harrison Petty 28 6 0 26.3% 25.0%
Jacob van Rooyen 30 3 0 25.7% 31.1%
Daniel Turner 15 0 0 50.0%  
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0 0   0.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0 0   20.0%
Ben Brown       100.0% 0.0%
Josh Schache       100.0% 0.0%
Max Gawn       26.9% 30.1%
Christian Petracca         100.0%

Opposition hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
Sean Darcy 56 34 9
Luke Jackson 17 13 8
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Melbourne v Fremantle (Round 19, 2024)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20241904

Key Team Stats

Stats highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Stat For Against Diff
Disposal Efficiency 73.7 75.7 -2.0
Kicking Efficiency 68.2 64.4 +3.8
Metres Gained 5801 6458 -657
Inside 50s 47 60 -13
Shots At Goal 18 35 -17
Shots Per Inside 50 38.3 58.3 -20.0
Contested Possessions 105 141 -36
Ground Ball Gets 84 88 -4
Intercepts 74 66 +8
Intercept Marks 15 16 -1
Centre Clearances 8 17 -9
Stoppage Clearances 8 30 -22
Contested Marks 8 11 -3
Marks Inside 50 13 21 -8
Hitouts 9 47 -38
Hitouts To Advantage 0 17 -17
Tackles 50 32 +18
Tackles Inside 50 14 4 +10
Def One On One Loss % 28.6 0.0 +28.6

Contested Possessions

  For Against Diff
Melbourne's Defensive 50
Hard Ball Get 5 5 0
Loose Ball Get 18 10 +8
Contested Mark 2 2 0
Ruck Hard Ball Get 0 1 -1
Gather From Hitout 0 1 -1
Contested Knock On 2 0 +2
Free For 2 2 0
Total 29 21 +8
Melbourne's Forward 50
Hard Ball Get 2 8 -6
Loose Ball Get 6 12 -6
Contested Mark 1 2 -1
Gather From Hitout 0 3 -3
Free For 0 2 -2
Total 9 27 -18
Post clearance
Hard Ball Get 11 14 -3
Loose Ball Get 49 46 +3
Contested Mark 8 11 -3
Contested Knock On 2 3 -1
Free For 7 12 -5
Total 77 86 -9
Pre clearance
Hard Ball Get 7 7 0
Loose Ball Get 17 21 -4
Ruck Hard Ball Get 0 5 -5
Gather From Hitout 0 16 -16
Contested Knock On 0 1 -1
Free For 4 5 -1
Total 28 55 -27
  • Official data on pre- and post-clearance contested possessions are not available. These have been estimated by Wheelo Ratings and should be indicative.
  • Ground ball gets are inclusive of hard ball gets and loose ball gets.
  • 'Free For' does not include free kicks to advantage or free kicks while in possession of the ball as these are not counted as contested possessions.

Expected scores

  xScore Score Rushed xWin % xMargin Margin Swing
Melbourne 60.5 66 1 0%     +14.6
Fremantle 125.0 116 2 100% +64.6 +50  
Team Shots Score Accuracy xScore +/- xSc. /
Shot
Shot
Rating
Overall
Melbourne 18 10.5.65 55.6% 59.5 +5.5 3.30 +0.31
Fremantle 35 17.12.114 48.6% 123.0 −9.0 3.51 −0.26
General Play
Melbourne 5 2.2.14 40.0% 14.1 −0.1 2.81 −0.01
Fremantle 13 5.5.35 38.5% 44.9 −9.9 3.45 −0.76
Set Position
Melbourne 13 8.3.51 61.5% 45.4 +5.6 3.49 +0.43
Fremantle 22 12.7.79 54.5% 78.2 +0.8 3.55 +0.04
  • xWin %: win probability based on expected scores.
  • Swing: difference between expected margin and actual margin.
  • xScore: total expected score from all shots taken.
  • +/-: total score above or below expected score.
  • xSc. / Shot: average expected score per shot. This represents the average shot difficulty.
  • Shot Rating: average score above or below expected score per shot at goal.

Notes: Expected scores are calculated by Wheelo Ratings. Each shot at goal is assigned an expected score based on the distance from goal, shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure. The model does not take into account factors like the player, whether the ball was kicked with their preferred or non-preferred foot, and pressure on the player when taking the shot. Rushed behinds are excluded from actual and expected scores.

 

 

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter For Agn Diff
1 168 148 +20
2 149 148 +1
3 195 159 +36
4 177 161 +16
Match 173 154 +19

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player Pressure
Acts
Pressure
Points
Season
Average
Kysaiah Pickett 30 65 41.9
Kade Chandler 27 56 45.7
Alex Neal-Bullen 31 55 53.2
Tom Sparrow 27 53 43.9
Clayton Oliver 21 48 44.3
Harrison Petty 19 45 30.0
Jack Viney 20 42 57.6
Trent Rivers 18 36 28.7
Caleb Windsor 16 34 33.0
Ed Langdon 15 30 31.1
Christian Salem 13 28 26.7
Jake Bowey 10 28 17.2
Andy Moniz-Wakefield 11 23 33.5
Jacob van Rooyen 10 22 17.6
Bayley Fritsch 8 17 15.7
Tom McDonald 8 15 20.6
Jake Lever 7 14 14.6
Koltyn Tholstrup 9 13 34.5
Jack Billings 8 12 22.8
Judd McVee 10 12 14.6
Daniel Turner 4 12 14.1
Jake Melksham 6 11 11.0
Steven May 5 11 10.0

Source: Herald Sun

Time in Forward Half

Quarter For Against
1 33% 67%
2 36% 64%
3 68% 32%
4 44% 56%
Match 47% 53%

Source: Match total sourced from the Herald Sun; quarter values are my own calculations.

Score Sources

Summary

Category Score Against Diff
Kick-in 2.1.13 0.0.0 +13
Centre Bounce 1.0.6 1.2.8 -2
Stoppage (Other) 1.0.6 3.5.23 -17
Turnover 6.5.41 13.7.85 -44
Score Source For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in 13 3.2 0 2.2
Centre Bounce 6 10.0 8 7.3
Stoppage (Other) 6 22.2 23 19.2
Turnover 41 43.4 85 48.9

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Fremantle.

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective.

Category Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Centre Bounce Centre 6 10.0 8 7.3
Kick-in D50 13 3.2 0 2.2
Stoppage (Other) D50 0 2.3 0 1.4
Stoppage (Other) Centre 0 1.9 1 1.8
Stoppage (Other) Wing 6 12.6 7 8.9
Stoppage (Other) F50 0 5.3 15 6.9
Turnover D50 8 8.6 32 8.6
Turnover Centre 18 8.1 13 7.6
Turnover Wing 9 20.3 39 26.6
Turnover F50 6 6.4 1 6.2
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
D50 21 14.1 32 12.3
Centre 24 20.0 22 16.7
Wing 15 32.9 46 35.5
F50 6 11.7 16 13.1
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Defensive 50 21 14.1 32 12.3
Defensive midfield 6 17.9 32 19.3
Centre bounce 6 10.0 8 7.3
Attacking midfield 27 25.0 28 25.6
Forward 50 6 11.7 16 13.1

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Fremantle.

Points from defensive half

For Against
Match Season Match Season *
27 32.0 64 31.6

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Fremantle.

Centre Bounce Attendances

  CBAs CBA % 2024 % 2023 %
Clayton Oliver 21 72% 71.5% 81.4%
Jack Viney 20 69% 67.5% 72.1%
Jacob van Rooyen 15 52% 19.4% 7.6%
Alex Neal-Bullen 14 48% 17.0% 2.1%
Harrison Petty 14 48% 10.0% 0.7%
Kysaiah Pickett 10 34% 37.6% 11.2%
Tom Sparrow 10 34% 36.3% 44.9%
Trent Rivers 8 28% 21.0% 3.0%
Christian Salem 4 14% 14.7% 0.0%
Koltyn Tholstrup 0 0% 1.2%  
Daniel Turner 0 0% 0.4% 0.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 5.7%
Max Gawn     84.3% 64.9%
Christian Petracca     55.8% 61.1%
Josh Schache     8.3% 0.0%
Bailey Laurie     4.4% 0.0%
Charlie Spargo     4.2% 0.0%
Lachie Hunter     0.0% 0.2%

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

  Ruck
Contests
RC % 2024 % 2023 %
Jacob van Rooyen 30 41% 18.0% 13.1%
Harrison Petty 28 38% 9.5% 2.0%
Daniel Turner 15 21% 4.3% 0.0%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Clayton Oliver 0 0% 0.0% 0.1%
Steven May 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 9.3%
Tom Sparrow 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Max Gawn     81.4% 57.5%
Josh Schache     13.3% 4.1%
Ben Brown     0.2% 2.3%
Christian Petracca     0.0% 0.4%

Hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
To Adv. %
(2024)
To Adv. %
(2023)
Harrison Petty 28 6 0 26.3% 25.0%
Jacob van Rooyen 30 3 0 25.7% 31.1%
Daniel Turner 15 0 0 50.0%  
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0 0   0.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0 0   20.0%
Ben Brown       100.0% 0.0%
Josh Schache       100.0% 0.0%
Max Gawn       26.9% 30.1%
Christian Petracca         100.0%

Opposition hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
Sean Darcy 56 34 9
Luke Jackson 17 13 8

17 - 0 hit outs to advantage.  Good luck trying to defend and win a match with that.

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-17 in stoppage score despite being obliterated in clearances tells me we are still setting up well at stoppage and behind the ball. 

However, the -44 from turnover will no doubt be impacted in part by our uncompetitiveness in clearances, which led to the ball being camped in our back half far too much. 

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Frees. Freo 22 Dees 14 (half time 12-4) 😡🤮😡🤮

Inside 50s. Freo 60. Dees 47 

Efficiency in Fwd50. Freo 58%. Dees 38%. 💩💩💩
 

Hitouts 47-9💩💩💩

Clrarances. 47-16💩💩💩

Stoppages 30-8💩💩💩

Centre clearance 17-8💩💩💩

Score. Freo. 116. Dees. 66. 💩💩💩

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