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On 18/03/2024 at 19:19, binman said:

Yep, you're right that is curious Sparrow with zero CBAs. I didn't clock that.

Cant imagine he is carrying anything, otherwise surely he would have been subbed off.

And his TOG was 77%, ahead (just) of similar players in Salo, Viney and Clarry, so they weren't managing him.  

Thanks for bringing this up on the pod @binman (and apologies my username is a bit of a tongue twister!).

George makes a fair bit of sense that we were going head to head our bulls against their bulls and he’s right that they had Bont and Libba in all day with Treloar at most as well. They did spread it a bit though with a few others (see below). IMG_8403.thumb.jpeg.d0faa0aed8ad8e3b78eefa8d2b5088ca.jpeg
I still think it’s strange we didn’t have Sparrow in for 5 or 6 at any stage. We were basically 2 bulls out of Oliver, Trac & Viney in with one outside mid being Salem at most with Kozzie in for 7.

I would’ve thought we could afford Sparrow in there as the second bull at times to give the others a rest but maybe it wasn’t so much us matching against their bulls as us not giving them a chance to rest Bont and Libba? 

I’d expect if McGuinness goes to Oliver again we’d see him push forward and Sparrow might get a look in this week, and just more general spreading the  load with the hawks not having the firepower the dogs do.

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Melbourne v Hawthorn (Round 2, 2024)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20240204

Key Team Stats

Stats highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Stat For Against Diff
Disposal Efficiency 75.8 74.2 +1.7
Kicking Efficiency 72.8 68.6 +4.2
Metres Gained 5730 5140 +590
Inside 50s 55 42 +13
Shots At Goal 24 16 +8
Shots Per Inside 50 43.6 38.1 +5.5
Contested Possessions 128 116 +12
Ground Ball Gets 84 85 -1
Intercepts 61 61 +0
Intercept Marks 18 12 +6
Centre Clearances 14 5 +9
Stoppage Clearances 21 18 +3
Contested Marks 11 4 +7
Marks Inside 50 14 11 +3
Hitouts 29 30 -1
Hitouts To Advantage 6 3 +3
Tackles 73 50 +23
Tackles Inside 50 3 14 -11
Def One On One Loss % 10.0 33.3 -23.3

Expected scores

Team Shots Score Accuracy xScore +/- xSc. /
Shot
Shot
Rating
Overall
Melbourne 24 14.7.91 58.3% 76.5 +14.5 3.19 +0.60
Hawthorn 16 5.6.36 31.2% 46.2 −10.2 2.89 −0.64
General Play
Melbourne 9 6.2.38 66.7% 27.7 +10.3 3.08 +1.14
Hawthorn 7 0.3.3 0.0% 17.4 −14.4 2.49 −2.06
Set Position
Melbourne 15 8.5.53 53.3% 48.8 +4.2 3.25 +0.28
Hawthorn 9 5.3.33 55.6% 28.8 +4.2 3.20 +0.47
  • xScore: total expected score from all shots taken.
  • +/-: total score above or below expected score.
  • xSc. / Shot: average expected score per shot. This represents the average shot difficulty.
  • Shot Rating: average score above or below expected score per shot at goal.

Notes: Expected scores are calculated by Wheelo Ratings. Each shot at goal is assigned an expected score based on the distance from goal, shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure. The model does not take into account factors like the player, whether the ball was kicked with their preferred or non-preferred foot, and pressure on the player when taking the shot. Rushed behinds are excluded from actual and expected scores.

 

 

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter For Against
1 184 172
2 208 208
3 193 172
4 160 133
Match 189 172

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player Pressure
Acts
Pressure
Points
Season
Average
Kade Chandler 26 55 49.7
Alex Neal-Bullen 23 55 46.0
Tom Sparrow 19 51 50.0
Clayton Oliver 22 50 41.7
Christian Petracca 18 42 39.0
Caleb Windsor 21 41 36.7
Ed Langdon 19 41 33.3
Christian Salem 17 40 38.0
Kysaiah Pickett 21 37 42.5
Jacob van Rooyen 17 37 20.3
Tom McDonald 16 36 34.5
Max Gawn 13 36 27.3
Jack Viney 16 34 53.0
Bayley Fritsch 16 29 17.3
Trent Rivers 9 27 25.0
Jake Lever 11 24 19.0
Blake Howes 9 23 22.0
Judd McVee 11 22 13.0
Harrison Petty 11 20 20.0
Jack Billings 8 14 27.0
Ben Brown 7 13 12.0
Steven May 3 9 14.3
Marty Hore 2 5 12.5

Source: Herald Sun

Time in Forward Half

Quarter For Against
1 66% 34%
2 52% 48%
3 45% 55%
4 53% 47%
Match 52% 48%

Source: Match total sourced from the Herald Sun; quarter values are my own calculations.

Score Sources

Summary

Category Score Against Diff
Kick-in 1.0.6 1.0.6 +0
Centre Bounce 5.2.32 0.1.1 +31
Stoppage (Other) 4.0.24 0.3.3 +21
Turnover 4.7.31 4.4.28 +3
Score Source For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in 6 2.3 6 2.7
Centre Bounce 32 17.0 1 4.0
Stoppage (Other) 24 25.0 3 14.7
Turnover 31 44.3 28 41.3

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Hawthorn.

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective.

Category Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in D50 6 2.3 6 2.7
Centre Bounce Centre 32 17.0 1 4.0
Stoppage (Other) D50 0 0.3 0 0.0
Stoppage (Other) Centre 0 0.0 1 0.7
Stoppage (Other) Wing 18 15.0 2 11.3
Stoppage (Other) F50 6 9.7 0 2.7
Turnover D50 2 3.3 7 7.0
Turnover Centre 2 3.0 0 4.7
Turnover Wing 21 24.0 21 26.3
Turnover F50 6 14.0 0 3.3
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
D50 8 6.0 13 9.7
Centre 34 20.0 2 9.3
Wing 39 39.0 23 37.7
F50 12 23.7 0 6.0

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Hawthorn.

Points from defensive half

For Against
Match Season Match Season *
28 25.0 28 24.0

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Hawthorn.

Centre Bounce Attendances

  CBAs CBA % 2024 % 2023 %
Max Gawn 17 77% 84.0% 64.9%
Jack Viney 17 77% 74.7% 72.1%
Clayton Oliver 17 77% 69.3% 81.4%
Tom Sparrow 14 64% 36.0% 44.9%
Christian Petracca 10 45% 56.0% 61.1%
Kysaiah Pickett 8 36% 29.4% 11.2%
Jacob van Rooyen 5 23% 13.3% 7.6%
Christian Salem 0 0% 41.3% 0.0%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 1.3% 2.1%
Harrison Petty 0 0% 0.0% 0.7%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 5.7%
Trent Rivers 0 0% 0.0% 3.0%
Josh Schache     8.3% 0.0%
Charlie Spargo     4.2% 0.0%

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

  Ruck
Contests
RC % 2024 % 2023 %
Max Gawn 61 76% 78.9% 57.5%
Jacob van Rooyen 19 24% 15.8% 13.1%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Ben Brown 0 0% 0.0% 2.3%
Christian Petracca 0 0% 0.0% 0.4%
Clayton Oliver 0 0% 0.0% 0.1%
Harrison Petty 0 0% 0.0% 2.0%
Steven May 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 9.3%
Tom Sparrow 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Josh Schache     13.3% 4.1%

Hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
To Adv. %
(2024)
To Adv. %
(2023)
Max Gawn 61 24 5 31.2% 30.1%
Jacob van Rooyen 19 5 1 12.5% 31.1%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0 0   0.0%
Ben Brown 0 0 0   0.0%
Christian Petracca 0 0 0   100.0%
Harrison Petty 0 0 0   25.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0 0   20.0%
Josh Schache       100.0% 0.0%

Opposition hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
Ned Reeves 61 26 1
Mabior Chol 14 3 2
Josh Weddle 4 1 0
Mitch Lewis 1 0 0
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Stats file round 2 

Tom McDonald 100% game time 

Ben Brown 96% game time 

Probably old style simple rule - don’t let them sit down and muscles tighten up 

Keep them aching bones active 

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14 marks i50 this week which is where I like to see it. That plus a free (presumably) gave us 15 set shots which we kicked 8.5 from. Much easier game when you can find targets, although we also took some big marks which might not have otherwise come off. 

Reversal of roles this week with Salem 0 CBAs and Sparrow 14/64%. Salem also 96% possessions in the defensive half. Would be expected I guess given we had 2 defenders go down, but given the 0 CBAs it was clearly in the plan from the start. It also helped Sparrow get into the game more than he was last week.

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Round 2, 2024 MCG - Hawks vs Demons

Forward line - Mids/others clicking  Focus on 'Team' first selfless principles

More fun & enjoyment, Relaxed Group = Improved Perf

Team performance off a tad from the previous week but i suspect that's the fallout from the May & Lever issue so no issues here unless one or more are out for months or worse.  Bottom 6 in particular but that rating was impacted substantially by the above issue also and is no doubt an outlier from the norm.

Clarry's rating impacted by the tag but still a very solid game from the champ all things considered.  Some of the boys are in some pretty serious form here in general over the last two weeks 👏

Demon scoring efficiency...

Disposals Per Goal  25.71
% In50s Goal 25.50
Conversion % 60.90

One of Tracc's best games in the red & blue?

25 effectives @ 86%, 6 clearances, 8 inside 50s, 3 tackles, 11 score involvements (most on the day - both teams), 3 intercepts, 1 goal, 2 one percenters (what was the other one!?), 5th in pressure points & 463 meters gained.

Sparrow bounces back with a huge turnaround on last week's rating (20th) coming in at No.2!

16 Effectives @ 80%, 2 one percenters, 3 clearances, 4 inside 50s, 7 tackles (most on the day - both teams), 6 score involvements, 3 intercepts, 1 goal, 3rd in pressure points & 319 meters gained.

Another solid rating from Langdon.  Rivers getting back to his 2023 best?  ANB & Pickett stepping up on their 2023 results in a big way.  Fritta also having his best game for some time.  While not expecting 5 snags every week, let's hope he can maintain something close to that form.

Player Rating Rank 2023 Season Rating % Change vs 2023
C Petracca 6.500 1 4.707 38.09
T Sparrow 4.350 2 2.811 54.75
Jack Viney 4.175 3 3.707 12.62
Ed Langdon 3.950 4 3.057 29.21
C Oliver 3.800 5 5.002 -24.03
A N-Bullen 3.775 6 2.532 49.09
T Rivers 3.600 7 3.696 -2.60
J McVee 3.575 8 2.320 54.09
K Pickett 3.450 9 2.101 64.21
B Fritsch 3.425 10 2.324 47.38
Max Gawn 3.275 11 3.350 -2.24
C Salem 3.150 12 2.993 5.25
J V Rooyen 2.725 13 2.170 25.58
H Petty 2.500 14 2.718 -8.02
B Howes 2.425 15 - -
J Billings 2.325 16 - -
K Chandler 2.000 17 2.265 -11.70
T McDonald 1.550 18 2.054 -24.54
J Lever (inj) 1.375 19 3.131 -56.08
Ben Brown 1.225 20 1.941 -36.89
M Hore > 42% 1.175 21 - -
C Windsor 0.925 22 - -
S May < 45% 0.725 23 3.213 -77.44
Team Score 65.25   69.86 -6.60
Top 6 26.55   24.43 8.68
Bottom 6 8.25   15.17 -45.62

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Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

Edited by Demon Dynasty
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Thanks DD the boys all stood up, how good was Tracc and Tommy Sparrow. Well supported by JV and Clayton.

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11 hours ago, WheeloRatings said:

Melbourne v Hawthorn (Round 2, 2024)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20240204

Key Team Stats

Stats highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Stat For Against Diff
Disposal Efficiency 75.8 74.2 +1.7
Kicking Efficiency 72.8 68.6 +4.2
Metres Gained 5730 5140 +590
Inside 50s 55 42 +13
Shots At Goal 24 16 +8
Shots Per Inside 50 43.6 38.1 +5.5
Contested Possessions 128 116 +12
Ground Ball Gets 84 85 -1
Intercepts 61 61 +0
Intercept Marks 18 12 +6
Centre Clearances 14 5 +9
Stoppage Clearances 21 18 +3
Contested Marks 11 4 +7
Marks Inside 50 14 11 +3
Hitouts 29 30 -1
Hitouts To Advantage 6 3 +3
Tackles 73 50 +23
Tackles Inside 50 3 14 -11
Def One On One Loss % 10.0 33.3 -23.3

Expected scores

Team Shots Score Accuracy xScore +/- xSc. /
Shot
Shot
Rating
Overall
Melbourne 24 14.7.91 58.3% 76.5 +14.5 3.19 +0.60
Hawthorn 16 5.6.36 31.2% 46.2 −10.2 2.89 −0.64
General Play
Melbourne 9 6.2.38 66.7% 27.7 +10.3 3.08 +1.14
Hawthorn 7 0.3.3 0.0% 17.4 −14.4 2.49 −2.06
Set Position
Melbourne 15 8.5.53 53.3% 48.8 +4.2 3.25 +0.28
Hawthorn 9 5.3.33 55.6% 28.8 +4.2 3.20 +0.47
  • xScore: total expected score from all shots taken.
  • +/-: total score above or below expected score.
  • xSc. / Shot: average expected score per shot. This represents the average shot difficulty.
  • Shot Rating: average score above or below expected score per shot at goal.

Notes: Expected scores are calculated by Wheelo Ratings. Each shot at goal is assigned an expected score based on the distance from goal, shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure. The model does not take into account factors like the player, whether the ball was kicked with their preferred or non-preferred foot, and pressure on the player when taking the shot. Rushed behinds are excluded from actual and expected scores.

 

 

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter For Against
1 184 172
2 208 208
3 193 172
4 160 133
Match 189 172

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player Pressure
Acts
Pressure
Points
Season
Average
Kade Chandler 26 55 49.7
Alex Neal-Bullen 23 55 46.0
Tom Sparrow 19 51 50.0
Clayton Oliver 22 50 41.7
Christian Petracca 18 42 39.0
Caleb Windsor 21 41 36.7
Ed Langdon 19 41 33.3
Christian Salem 17 40 38.0
Kysaiah Pickett 21 37 42.5
Jacob van Rooyen 17 37 20.3
Tom McDonald 16 36 34.5
Max Gawn 13 36 27.3
Jack Viney 16 34 53.0
Bayley Fritsch 16 29 17.3
Trent Rivers 9 27 25.0
Jake Lever 11 24 19.0
Blake Howes 9 23 22.0
Judd McVee 11 22 13.0
Harrison Petty 11 20 20.0
Jack Billings 8 14 27.0
Ben Brown 7 13 12.0
Steven May 3 9 14.3
Marty Hore 2 5 12.5

Source: Herald Sun

Time in Forward Half

Quarter For Against
1 66% 34%
2 52% 48%
3 45% 55%
4 53% 47%
Match 52% 48%

Source: Match total sourced from the Herald Sun; quarter values are my own calculations.

Score Sources

Summary

Category Score Against Diff
Kick-in 1.0.6 1.0.6 +0
Centre Bounce 5.2.32 0.1.1 +31
Stoppage (Other) 4.0.24 0.3.3 +21
Turnover 4.7.31 4.4.28 +3
Score Source For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in 6 2.3 6 2.7
Centre Bounce 32 17.0 1 4.0
Stoppage (Other) 24 25.0 3 14.7
Turnover 31 44.3 28 41.3

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Hawthorn.

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective.

Category Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in D50 6 2.3 6 2.7
Centre Bounce Centre 32 17.0 1 4.0
Stoppage (Other) D50 0 0.3 0 0.0
Stoppage (Other) Centre 0 0.0 1 0.7
Stoppage (Other) Wing 18 15.0 2 11.3
Stoppage (Other) F50 6 9.7 0 2.7
Turnover D50 2 3.3 7 7.0
Turnover Centre 2 3.0 0 4.7
Turnover Wing 21 24.0 21 26.3
Turnover F50 6 14.0 0 3.3
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
D50 8 6.0 13 9.7
Centre 34 20.0 2 9.3
Wing 39 39.0 23 37.7
F50 12 23.7 0 6.0

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Hawthorn.

Points from defensive half

For Against
Match Season Match Season *
28 25.0 28 24.0

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Hawthorn.

Centre Bounce Attendances

  CBAs CBA % 2024 % 2023 %
Max Gawn 17 77% 84.0% 64.9%
Jack Viney 17 77% 74.7% 72.1%
Clayton Oliver 17 77% 69.3% 81.4%
Tom Sparrow 14 64% 36.0% 44.9%
Christian Petracca 10 45% 56.0% 61.1%
Kysaiah Pickett 8 36% 29.4% 11.2%
Jacob van Rooyen 5 23% 13.3% 7.6%
Christian Salem 0 0% 41.3% 0.0%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 1.3% 2.1%
Harrison Petty 0 0% 0.0% 0.7%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 5.7%
Trent Rivers 0 0% 0.0% 3.0%
Josh Schache     8.3% 0.0%
Charlie Spargo     4.2% 0.0%

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

  Ruck
Contests
RC % 2024 % 2023 %
Max Gawn 61 76% 78.9% 57.5%
Jacob van Rooyen 19 24% 15.8% 13.1%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Ben Brown 0 0% 0.0% 2.3%
Christian Petracca 0 0% 0.0% 0.4%
Clayton Oliver 0 0% 0.0% 0.1%
Harrison Petty 0 0% 0.0% 2.0%
Steven May 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 9.3%
Tom Sparrow 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Josh Schache     13.3% 4.1%

Hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
To Adv. %
(2024)
To Adv. %
(2023)
Max Gawn 61 24 5 31.2% 30.1%
Jacob van Rooyen 19 5 1 12.5% 31.1%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0 0   0.0%
Ben Brown 0 0 0   0.0%
Christian Petracca 0 0 0   100.0%
Harrison Petty 0 0 0   25.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0 0   20.0%
Josh Schache       100.0% 0.0%

Opposition hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
Ned Reeves 61 26 1
Mabior Chol 14 3 2
Josh Weddle 4 1 0
Mitch Lewis 1 0 0

Nice one Wheel O, love the use of purple.

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Team & Player Ratings to Rnd 2, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Player 2024 Rating 2024 Rank 2023 Rating % Change vs 2023 2023 Rank Change in Rank vs 2023
C Petracca 5.583 1 4.707 18.61 2 1
Jack Viney 4.317 2 3.707 16.46 4 2
C Oliver 3.967 3 5.002 -20.69 1 -2
Max Gawn 3.750 4 3.350 11.94 7 3
Steven May 3.724 5 3.213 15.90 8 3
Judd McVee 3.325 6 2.320 43.32 22 16
C Salem 3.292 7 2.993 9.99 12 5
K Pickett 3.288 8 2.101 56.50 26 18
T Sparrow 3.267 9 2.811 16.22 16 7
A Tomlinson* 3.175 10 2.915 8.92 14 4
Jake Lever 3.090 11 3.131 -1.31 9 -2
Ed Langdon 3.083 12 3.057 0.85 10 -2
B Howes 2.942 13 - - - -
J Billings > 2.878 14 - - - -
T Rivers 2.800 15 3.696 -24.24 5 -10
T McDonald 2.750 16 2.054 33.89 27 11
H Petty* 2.500 17 2.718 -8.02 19 2
A N-Bullen 2.475 18 2.532 -2.25 20 2
M Hore* 2.465 19 - - - -
K Chandler 2.325 20 2.265 2.65 23 3
J V Rooyen 2.208 21 2.170 1.75 25 4
B Fritsch 2.192 22 2.324 -5.68 21 -1
C Windsor < 1.967 23 - - - -
J Bowey* 1.950 24 2.820 -30.85 15 -9
Ben Brown 1.800 25 1.941 -7.26 28 3
C Spargo* 1.200 26 1.886 -36.37 29 3
B Laurie* < 0.775 27 2.235 -65.32 24 -3
J Schache* 0.700 28 1.525 -54.10 33 5
T Woewodin* > 0.550 29 1.406 -60.88 34 5
L Hunter - - 2.939 - 13 -
D Turner - - 1.825 - 31 -
J Melksham - - 1.599 - 32 -
Team Rating 69.40   69.86 -0.66    
Top 6 24.67   24.43 0.97    
Bottom 6 14.17   15.17 -6.62    

* Played less than two full matches (in total)

< Subbed out at least once or more (player rating could be somewhat comprised)

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Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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What's happened to Rivers ?

Stats are plummeting as above 

Is he injured?

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11 hours ago, Kent said:

What's happened to Rivers ?

Stats are plummeting as above 

Is he injured?

Possibly recouping from a niggle early on Kent?

Vs the Hawks he improved (at least statistically) posting a 2023 level rating.

Not near his best but an improvement on the first two weeks yes?

I also thought he got more involved as the match wore on.  Maybe just a slow start form wise?

He doesn't appear to have the break away run & carry side to the level we witnessed on a number of occasions last year just yet. 

Doesn't seem that far away either though.

Someone else on here might have some intel.

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Melbourne v Port Adelaide (Round 3, 2024)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20240305

Key Team Stats

Stats highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Stat For Against Diff
Disposal Efficiency 66.7 70.1 -3.4
Kicking Efficiency 61.7 61.6 +0.1
Metres Gained 5797 6045 -248
Inside 50s 45 66 -21
Shots At Goal 22 28 -6
Shots Per Inside 50 48.9 42.4 +6.5
Contested Possessions 140 142 -2
Ground Ball Gets 82 104 -22
Intercepts 63 59 +4
Intercept Marks 17 13 +4
Centre Clearances 11 16 -5
Stoppage Clearances 26 36 -10
Contested Marks 5 9 -4
Marks Inside 50 7 14 -7
Hitouts 55 30 +25
Hitouts To Advantage 19 9 +10
Tackles 57 67 -10
Tackles Inside 50 9 20 -11
Def One On One Loss % 58.3 0.0 +58.3

Expected scores

Team Shots Score Accuracy xScore +/- xSc. /
Shot
Shot
Rating
Overall
Melbourne 22 15.4.94 68.2% 60.1 +33.9 2.73 +1.54
Port Adelaide 28 13.10.88 46.4% 90.6 −2.6 3.24 −0.09
General Play
Melbourne 12 7.2.44 58.3% 30.4 +13.6 2.53 +1.13
Port Adelaide 13 7.5.47 53.8% 38.9 +8.1 3.00 +0.62
Set Position
Melbourne 10 8.2.50 80.0% 29.7 +20.3 2.97 +2.03
Port Adelaide 15 6.5.41 40.0% 51.6 −10.6 3.44 −0.71
  • xScore: total expected score from all shots taken.
  • +/-: total score above or below expected score.
  • xSc. / Shot: average expected score per shot. This represents the average shot difficulty.
  • Shot Rating: average score above or below expected score per shot at goal.

Notes: Expected scores are calculated by Wheelo Ratings. Each shot at goal is assigned an expected score based on the distance from goal, shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure. The model does not take into account factors like the player, whether the ball was kicked with their preferred or non-preferred foot, and pressure on the player when taking the shot. Rushed behinds are excluded from actual and expected scores.

 

 

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter For Against
1 184 198
2 170 164
3 186 187
4 193 203
Match 182 189

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player Pressure
Acts
Pressure
Points
Season
Average
Jack Viney 39 80 59.8
Alex Neal-Bullen 30 66 51.0
Christian Petracca 26 57 43.5
Clayton Oliver 20 45 42.5
Max Gawn 18 41 30.8
Tom Sparrow 16 35 46.2
Kade Chandler 15 31 45.0
Kysaiah Pickett 14 30 38.3
Jack Billings 10 27 27.0
Harrison Petty 11 27 23.5
Ed Langdon 12 26 31.5
Christian Salem 10 24 34.5
Bayley Fritsch 10 23 18.8
Caleb Windsor 11 19 32.2
Blake Howes 9 17 20.8
Trent Rivers 9 15 22.5
Tom McDonald 4 13 27.3
Jake Lever 6 13 17.5
Judd McVee 5 11 12.5
Taj Woewodin 4 11 10.5
Marty Hore 4 8 11.0
Ben Brown 4 5 9.7
Jacob van Rooyen 2 3 16.0

Source: Herald Sun

Time in Forward Half

Quarter For Against
1 46% 54%
2 43% 57%
3 35% 65%
4 46% 54%
Match 44% 56%

Source: Match total sourced from the Herald Sun; quarter values are my own calculations.

Score Sources

Summary

Category Score Against Diff
Kick-in 1.0.6 1.0.6 +0
Centre Bounce 1.3.9 2.1.13 -4
Stoppage (Other) 7.1.43 2.7.19 +24
Turnover 6.2.38 8.3.51 -13
Score Source For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in 6 3.2 6 3.5
Centre Bounce 9 15.0 13 6.2
Stoppage (Other) 43 29.5 19 15.8
Turnover 38 42.8 51 43.8

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Port Adelaide.

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective.

Category Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in D50 6 3.2 6 3.5
Centre Bounce Centre 9 15.0 13 6.2
Stoppage (Other) D50 6 1.8 0 0.0
Stoppage (Other) Centre 0 0.0 3 1.2
Stoppage (Other) Wing 25 17.5 8 10.5
Stoppage (Other) F50 12 10.2 8 4.0
Turnover D50 7 4.2 0 5.2
Turnover Centre 12 5.2 1 3.8
Turnover Wing 13 21.2 37 29.0
Turnover F50 6 12.0 13 5.8
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
D50 19 9.2 6 8.8
Centre 21 20.2 17 11.2
Wing 38 38.8 45 39.5
F50 18 22.2 21 9.8

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Port Adelaide.

Points from defensive half

For Against
Match Season Match Season *
32 26.8 19 22.8

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Port Adelaide.

Centre Bounce Attendances

  CBAs CBA % 2024 % 2023 %
Max Gawn 26 87% 84.8% 64.9%
Clayton Oliver 24 80% 72.4% 81.4%
Jack Viney 23 77% 75.2% 72.1%
Christian Petracca 19 63% 58.1% 61.1%
Christian Salem 10 33% 39.0% 0.0%
Tom Sparrow 7 23% 32.4% 44.9%
Kysaiah Pickett 7 23% 27.2% 11.2%
Jacob van Rooyen 4 13% 13.3% 7.6%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 1.0% 2.1%
Harrison Petty 0 0% 0.0% 0.7%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 5.7%
Trent Rivers 0 0% 0.0% 3.0%
Josh Schache     8.3% 0.0%
Charlie Spargo     4.2% 0.0%

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

  Ruck
Contests
RC % 2024 % 2023 %
Max Gawn 98 88% 81.7% 57.5%
Jacob van Rooyen 13 12% 14.6% 13.1%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Ben Brown 0 0% 0.0% 2.3%
Christian Petracca 0 0% 0.0% 0.4%
Clayton Oliver 0 0% 0.0% 0.1%
Harrison Petty 0 0% 0.0% 2.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 9.3%
Tom Sparrow 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Josh Schache     13.3% 4.1%
Steven May     0.0% 0.0%

Hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
To Adv. %
(2024)
To Adv. %
(2023)
Max Gawn 98 50 17 32.2% 30.1%
Jacob van Rooyen 13 5 2 23.1% 31.1%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0 0   0.0%
Ben Brown 0 0 0   0.0%
Christian Petracca 0 0 0   100.0%
Harrison Petty 0 0 0   25.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0 0   20.0%
Josh Schache       100.0% 0.0%

Opposition hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
Ivan Soldo 86 24 7
Charlie Dixon 13 3 0
Jeremy Finlayson 12 3 2
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Round 3, 2024 Adelaide Oval - Power vs Demons

Demon scoring efficiency...

Disposals Per Goal  21.00
% In50s Goal 33.00
Conversion % 71.40

The last time we were that efficient & effective up forward was Rnd 7, 2023 vs the Kangas. (19 / 34 / 76)

Not taking much notice of the team rating here as this was a super high pressure game against a quality opponent.  All that matters in the end is the scoreboard in these type of matches imv.

Big M takes out the No.1 rating honours and by a fair margin.  Ahead of Rivers, Tracc and ANB.  What a game from ANB who i would rate as probably BOG, just ahead of Maxy.  Thoughts?

Let's take a little more in depth look at both of these legends...

Maxy;  11 effectives @ 55%, 1 contested mark, 3 one percenters, 6 clearances, 3 rebounds, 5 tackles (2 inside 50), 8 score involvements (the most for us on the night), 6 intercepts, a massive 17 hit outs to advantage, 377 meters gaines, 1 goal and a miserly 2 turnovers.  What a game from the big fella.

ANB;  16 effectives @ 67%, 1 mark inside 50, 2 one percenters, 1 clearance, 1 rebound, 5 inside 50s, 6 tackles, 7 score involvements, 5 intercepts, 381 meters gained, 2 goals and 6 turnovers (equal highest for us on the night with Lever which would have effected his rating somewhat).

That's some rating from Rivers and a hopefully a great sign of things to come, blitzing his 2023 season rating (his best season so far) by 18%!

While a fair way off his 2023 rating, i thought Clarry played a fabulous gutsy second half, effectively with a bung hand!

Player Rating Rank 2023 Season Rating % Change vs 2023
Max Gawn 5.250 1 3.350 56.72
T Rivers 4.375 2 3.696 18.37
C Petracca 3.925 3 4.707 -16.61
A N-Bullen 3.875 4 2.532 53.04
C Oliver 3.675 5 5.002 -26.53
Jack Viney 3.550 6 3.707 -4.24
Ed Langdon 3.175 7 3.057 3.86
J Lever 3.125 8 3.131 -0.19
K Chandler 3.075 9 2.265 35.76
T Sparrow 2.725 10 2.811 -3.06
T McDonald 2.675 11 2.054 30.23
C Salem 2.450 12 2.993 -18.14
J McVee 2.050 13 2.320 -11.64
M Hore 2.000 14 - -
C Windsor 1.875 15 - -
Ben Brown 1.600 16 1.941 -17.57
K Pickett 1.500 17 2.101 -28.61
B Fritsch 1.500 17 2.324 -35.46
J V Rooyen 1.400 19 2.170 -35.48
H Petty 1.275 20 2.718 -53.09
J Billings < 58% 1.200 21 - -
B Howes 0.800 22 - -
T Woewodin > 18% 0.200 23 3.213 -93.78
Team Score 57.08   69.86 -18.30
Top 6 24.65   24.43 0.90
Bottom 6 7.68   15.17 -49.41

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Thanks DD Wow Max, Riv, Alex, Chin & TMac we’re off the charts tonight, as you mentioned it was more of an even spread across the ground with everyone chipping in when required. JV fully tagged, Tracc & Clayton shaded by the Port mids but so critical in the clinches when really needed and Sparrow and Lingers getting more involved. That last quarter and the last 7 minutes in particular had ‘21 all over it.!!

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26 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Thanks DD Wow Max, Riv, Alex, Chin & TMac we’re off the charts tonight, as you mentioned it was more of an even spread across the ground with everyone chipping in when required. JV fully tagged, Tracc & Clayton shaded by the Port mids but so critical in the clinches when really needed and Sparrow and Lingers getting more involved. That last quarter and the last 7 minutes in particular had ‘21 all over it.!!

Yes i feel it was up there with some of our best wins since 21 DZ.

The others for mine were the come back against the Blues with Kozzy kicking the winner in 22.  And Melk's winning mark & goal against the Lions in 23.  Loved Vin's goal from ANB's HB after his clever body work and spin out of trouble in this one!

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Team & Player Ratings to Rnd 3, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Tracc leading the pack comfortably with Max and Viney battling it out for 2nd place.  Clarry on their heals.

Sparrow, Knuckles McVee, ANB, T-Mac, Kozzy & Chinny Chin Chin moving on up!

Player 2024 Rating 2024 Rank 2023 Rating % Change vs 2023 2023 Rank Change in Rank vs 2023
C Petracca 5.169 1 4.707 9.82 2 1
Jack Viney 4.125 2 3.707 11.28 4 2
Max Gawn 4.125 2 3.350 23.13 7 5
C Oliver 3.894 4 5.002 -22.15 1 -3
Steven May 3.724 5 3.213 15.90 8 3
T Rivers 3.194 6 3.696 -13.58 5 -1
A Tomlinson* 3.175 7 2.915 8.92 14 7
T Sparrow 3.131 8 2.811 11.38 16 8
Ed Langdon 3.106 9 3.057 1.60 10 1
Jake Lever 3.100 10 3.131 -0.99 9 -1
C Salem 3.081 11 2.993 2.94 12 1
Judd McVee 3.006 12 2.320 29.57 22 10
A N-Bullen 2.825 13 2.532 11.57 20 7
T McDonald 2.725 14 2.054 32.67 27 13
J Billings > < 2.720 15 - - - -
K Pickett 2.692 16 2.101 28.13 26 10
K Chandler 2.513 17 2.265 10.95 23 6
B Howes 2.406 18 - - - -
M Hore 2.273 19        
B Fritsch 2.019 20 2.324 -13.12 21 1
J V Rooyen 2.006 21 2.170 -7.56 25 4
J Bowey* 1.950 22 2.820 -30.85 15 -7
C Windsor < 1.944 23 - - - -
H Petty 1.888 24 2.718 -30.54 19 -5
Ben Brown 1.733 25 1.941 -10.72 28 3
C Spargo* 1.200 26 1.886 -36.37 29 3
B Laurie* < 0.775 27 2.235 -65.32 24 -3
T Woewodin* < > 0.750 28 1.406 -46.66 34 6
J Schache* 0.700 29 1.525 -54.10 33 4
L Hunter - - 2.939 - 13 -
D Turner - - 1.825 - 31 -
J Melksham - - 1.599 - 32 -
S McAdam - - - - - -
Team Rating 66.96   69.86 -4.15    
Top 6 24.23   24.43 -0.81    
Bottom 6 13.17   15.17 -13.20    

* Played less than two full matches (in total)

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Melbourne v Adelaide (Round 4, 2024)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20240401

Key Team Stats

Stats highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Stat For Against Diff
Disposal Efficiency 70.3 72.9 -2.6
Kicking Efficiency 63.9 66.5 -2.7
Metres Gained 5965 5632 +333
Inside 50s 48 54 -6
Shots At Goal 28 25 +3
Shots Per Inside 50 58.3 46.3 +12.0
Contested Possessions 131 129 +2
Ground Ball Gets 85 88 -3
Intercepts 58 54 +4
Intercept Marks 20 9 +11
Centre Clearances 7 12 -5
Stoppage Clearances 34 25 +9
Contested Marks 18 9 +9
Marks Inside 50 10 8 +2
Hitouts 43 44 -1
Hitouts To Advantage 13 4 +9
Tackles 65 58 +7
Tackles Inside 50 14 7 +7
Def One On One Loss % 28.6 37.5 -8.9

Expected scores

Team Shots Score Accuracy xScore +/- xSc. /
Shot
Shot
Rating
Overall
Melbourne 28 10.15.75 35.7% 82.3 −7.3 2.94 −0.26
Adelaide 25 8.11.59 32.0% 77.5 −18.5 3.10 −0.74
General Play
Melbourne 12 2.9.21 16.7% 28.7 −7.7 2.39 −0.64
Adelaide 14 2.9.21 14.3% 39.3 −18.3 2.81 −1.31
Set Position
Melbourne 16 8.6.54 50.0% 53.6 +0.4 3.35 +0.03
Adelaide 11 6.2.38 54.5% 38.2 −0.2 3.47 −0.02
  • xScore: total expected score from all shots taken.
  • +/-: total score above or below expected score.
  • xSc. / Shot: average expected score per shot. This represents the average shot difficulty.
  • Shot Rating: average score above or below expected score per shot at goal.

Notes: Expected scores are calculated by Wheelo Ratings. Each shot at goal is assigned an expected score based on the distance from goal, shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure. The model does not take into account factors like the player, whether the ball was kicked with their preferred or non-preferred foot, and pressure on the player when taking the shot. Rushed behinds are excluded from actual and expected scores.

 

 

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter For Against
1 201 172
2 186 188
3 162 177
4 205 192
Match 190 182

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player Pressure
Acts
Pressure
Points
Season
Average
Kade Chandler 33 79 51.8
Tom Sparrow 33 68 50.6
Alex Neal-Bullen 28 64 53.6
Kysaiah Pickett 27 62 44.2
Jack Viney 22 56 59.0
Christian Petracca 18 42 43.2
Caleb Windsor 17 41 34.0
Max Gawn 13 33 31.2
Ed Langdon 15 29 31.0
Harrison Petty 14 28 25.0
Jacob van Rooyen 10 27 18.2
Christian Salem 11 23 32.2
Jack Billings 9 21 25.8
Clayton Oliver 10 20 38.0
Bayley Fritsch 9 18 18.6
Jake Lever 8 18 17.6
Blake Howes 8 15 19.6
Tom McDonald 4 13 23.8
Taj Woewodin 5 13 11.3
Ben Brown 7 13 10.5
Trent Rivers 6 12 20.4
Judd McVee 6 9 11.8
Steven May 1 1 11.0

Source: Herald Sun

Time in Forward Half

Quarter For Against
1 29% 71%
2 58% 42%
3 62% 38%
4 44% 56%
Match 48% 52%

Source: Match total sourced from the Herald Sun; quarter values are my own calculations.

Score Sources

Summary

Category Score Against Diff
Kick-in 1.2.8 1.1.7 +1
Centre Bounce 0.4.4 1.3.9 -5
Stoppage (Other) 3.5.23 1.6.12 +11
Turnover 6.7.43 5.5.35 +8
Score Source For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in 8 4.2 7 4.2
Centre Bounce 4 12.8 9 6.8
Stoppage (Other) 23 28.2 12 15.0
Turnover 43 42.8 35 42.0

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Adelaide.

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective.

Category Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in D50 8 4.2 7 4.2
Centre Bounce Centre 4 12.8 9 6.8
Stoppage (Other) D50 0 1.4 0 0.0
Stoppage (Other) Centre 1 0.2 1 1.2
Stoppage (Other) Wing 13 16.6 1 8.6
Stoppage (Other) F50 9 10.0 10 5.2
Turnover D50 14 6.2 12 6.6
Turnover Centre 13 6.8 8 4.6
Turnover Wing 15 20.0 14 26.0
Turnover F50 1 9.8 1 4.8
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
D50 22 11.8 19 10.8
Centre 18 19.8 18 12.6
Wing 28 36.6 15 34.6
F50 10 19.8 11 10.0

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Adelaide.

Points from defensive half

For Against
Match Season Match Season *
42 29.8 22 22.6

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Adelaide.

Centre Bounce Attendances

  CBAs CBA % 2024 % 2023 %
Max Gawn 19 86% 85.0% 64.9%
Jack Viney 17 77% 75.6% 72.1%
Clayton Oliver 15 68% 71.7% 81.4%
Christian Petracca 15 68% 59.8% 61.1%
Tom Sparrow 15 68% 38.6% 44.9%
Kysaiah Pickett 4 18% 25.2% 11.2%
Jacob van Rooyen 3 14% 13.4% 7.6%
Christian Salem 0 0% 32.3% 0.0%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 0.8% 2.1%
Harrison Petty 0 0% 0.0% 0.7%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 5.7%
Trent Rivers 0 0% 0.0% 3.0%
Josh Schache     8.3% 0.0%
Charlie Spargo     4.2% 0.0%

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

  Ruck
Contests
RC % 2024 % 2023 %
Max Gawn 86 85% 82.4% 57.5%
Jacob van Rooyen 15 15% 14.6% 13.1%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Ben Brown 0 0% 0.0% 2.3%
Christian Petracca 0 0% 0.0% 0.4%
Clayton Oliver 0 0% 0.0% 0.1%
Harrison Petty 0 0% 0.0% 2.0%
Steven May 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 9.3%
Tom Sparrow 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Josh Schache     13.3% 4.1%

Hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
To Adv. %
(2024)
To Adv. %
(2023)
Max Gawn 86 39 10 30.8% 30.1%
Jacob van Rooyen 15 4 3 35.3% 31.1%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0 0   0.0%
Ben Brown 0 0 0   0.0%
Christian Petracca 0 0 0   100.0%
Harrison Petty 0 0 0   25.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0 0   20.0%
Josh Schache       100.0% 0.0%

Opposition hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
Reilly O'Brien 87 39 4
Chris Burgess 10 4 0
Taylor Walker 4 1 0
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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

Attack from stoppage down i suspect due to Viney under done and Clarry with only one hand.  Viney's our number 1 extractor and a fully fit Clarry (other hand plus uninterrupted pre-season) would surely be No.2

Hopefully we can get Clarry's hand back to some sort of normality pronto.

With Gus out our 'managed' options here are limited otherwise you'd have to seriously think about giving him next week off plus the bye to try and get it right for the next leg.

Maybe time to bring in the Kolt for his debut but probably too early?

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@WheeloRatings do you have quarter-by-quarter figures for CPs, clearances and ground ball gets? If so, did we get beaten in each of those in the last quarter? It felt like when we hit the fitness wall late we started to struggle in those areas and I wonder whether the numbers looked better for all three stats until late?

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13 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

@WheeloRatings do you have quarter-by-quarter figures for CPs, clearances and ground ball gets? If so, did we get beaten in each of those in the last quarter? It felt like when we hit the fitness wall late we started to struggle in those areas and I wonder whether the numbers looked better for all three stats until late?

We won stoppage clearances in the last quarter, but lost contested possessions, centre clearances and ground ball gets.

  1 2 3 4
Contested Possessions
Adelaide 39 29 21 40
Melbourne 34 37 30 30
Diff -5 +8 +9 -10
Centre Clearances
Adelaide 3 4 3 2
Melbourne 1 2 4 0
Diff -2 -2 +1 -2
Total Clearances
Adelaide 16 10 4 7
Melbourne 9 11 10 11
Diff -7 +1 +6 +4
Ground Ball Gets
Adelaide 26 24 12 26
Melbourne 21 24 20 20
Diff -5 +0 +8 -6
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On 05/04/2024 at 10:38, Demon Dynasty said:

Attack from stoppage down i suspect due to Viney under done and Clarry with only one hand.  Viney's our number 1 extractor and a fully fit Clarry (other hand plus uninterrupted pre-season) would surely be No.2

Hopefully we can get Clarry's hand back to some sort of normality pronto.

With Gus out our 'managed' options here are limited otherwise you'd have to seriously think about giving him next week off plus the bye to try and get it right for the next leg.

Maybe time to bring in the Kolt for his debut but probably too early?

Hi DD just checking to make sure that you ar ok, I always look forward to your individual player stats for our team.😁😁😁

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37 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Hi DD just checking to make sure that you ar ok, I always look forward to your individual player stats for our team.😁😁😁

Howdy DZ.  All good thx for asking.

Super late on this weeks as i had a wedding road trip to travel to in Bowral and back (from Melb).  I was thinking about bringing the laptop to complete while i was here but the potential fallout with me lil stormcloud probably wouldn't have ended so well!

Chowing down in the Beechworth bakery right now 😅

I'll get this done and up by this evening. Hope all's well at your end.

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4 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Howdy DZ.  All good thx for asking.

Super late on this weeks as i had a wedding road trip to travel to in Bowral and back (from Melb).  I was thinking about bringing the laptop to complete while i was here but the potential fallout with me lil stormcloud probably wouldn't have ended so well!

Chowing down in the Beechworth bakery right now 😅

I'll get this done and up by this evening. Hope all's well at your end.

Thanks DD hope you had a great time in Bowral, the Beechworth Bakery sounds mouth watering as well. Enjoy the rest of your trip home. All good down this way the two wins in 5 days has really made the weekend very very enjoyable indeed.!!

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Round 4, 2024 Adelaide Oval - Crows vs Demons

Amazing stuff from the boys playing away against the two Adelaide clubs in consecutive weeks off a 5 day break.

Ripping start to the year from CP5 coming in with the No.1 rating for the third time in five matches!  26% higher than his 2023 rating.

McVee hits the big time with the No.2 rating, blitzing his 2023 rating by a massive 78% and cracking the top five rated players for his first time in the red & blue.  His highest result so far, knocking off his Rnd 3, 2023 rating vs the Swans of 3.425

Lets take a look at some of his outstanding work against the Crows...

19 effectives @ 95%, 1 contested mark, 2 one percenters, 6 rebounds, 1 inside 50, 4 score involvements, 10 intercepts (second most on the night behind Keane with 11), 416 meters gained and 4 turnovers.

The incredible Iron Man "May" comes in at No3. which is quite astounding under the circumstances.  To post a result 22% up on his 2023 average player rating is just ridiculous given the injury cloud.

Maxy posting a VG rating given the 5 day turnaround and what he produced the week before.  Sparrow another solid performance, 25% up on 2023!

Notable performances from Chandler & T-Mac again.  Fritta solid but his Rnd 3 performance vs the Hawks still the best for him so far with a 3.425

Viney still doing well also under a cloud.  Clarry suffering the effects of a (soft?) tag and that hand injury it seems!

Our bottom 6 players improving on their performance against the Power which might be an indication of some "learnings" on the road?

Player Rating Rank 2023 Season Rating % Change vs 2023
C Petracca 5.925 1 4.707 25.88
J McVee 4.125 2 2.320 77.80
S May 3.925 3 3.213 22.16
Max Gawn 3.725 4 3.350 11.19
T Sparrow 3.500 5 2.811 24.51
Jack Viney 3.475 6 3.707 -6.26
K Chandler 3.100 7 2.265 36.87
T Rivers 2.950 8 3.696 -20.18
B Fritsch 2.875 9 2.324 23.71
C Salem 2.800 10 2.993 -6.45
A N-Bullen 2.725 11 2.532 7.62
T McDonald 2.575 12 2.054 25.37
C Windsor 2.550 13 - -
J Lever 2.525 14 3.131 -19.35
J V Rooyen 2.425 15 2.170 11.75
Ed Langdon 2.350 16 3.057 -23.13
K Pickett 2.200 17 2.101 4.71
J Billings 1.925 18 - -
H Petty 1.775 19 2.718 -34.69
C Oliver 1.725 20 5.002 -65.51
B Howes 1.575 21 - -
Ben Brown < 68% 0.900 22 1.941 -53.63
T Woewodin > 10% 0.150 23 3.213 -95.33
Team Score 61.65   69.86 -11.75
Top 6 24.68   24.43 1.00
Bottom 6 10.10   15.17 -33.42

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Thanks DD fantastic effort to get these stats up so quickly, what a fabulous result for Judd McVee, Tracc is in Brownlow form, Max and Steven May unbelievable, JV, Sparrow and Chandler helping Tracc cover for Clayton playing injured. Windsor is playing like an No.1 pick. Overall a great team effort and a great team result. Also the Demonland Votes were all on the money.

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    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

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    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

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    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

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    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

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    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

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    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

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    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

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    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

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    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

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