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layzie
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layzie - great post that I feel reflects the thoughts and sentiments of the overwhelming majority of Demonlanders.  
Not that I ever “accept” defeat but the panels thoughts and (mostly) positive analysis puts a lot into perspective, and has made me realise how brutally difficult it is for the club to achieve the ultimate success. 
I am even looking forward to hearing their analysis of Friday’s heartbreak.  
Then of course there will, no doubt after a well earned break, the speculation then analysis of the trade and draft period before the frustratingly long break before the preseason.  
Whatever, just love the Dees frustrating as that can be.  
🔴🔵🔴🔵❤️💙❤️💙

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    On 9/16/2023 at 1:32 PM, layzie said:

    Demonland means a lot to me and I wanted to express my gratitude to all of you for providing the best place in town for all talk regarding our beloved Demons

    Fabulous sentiments, layz. 

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    3 hours ago, Webber said:

    Fabulous sentiments, layz. 

    Thanks Webber! Certainly beats the alternatives 🙂

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    I think a little reminder is in order…

    Thank you, mods.

    Thank you for the many, many hours you put into this site whilst juggling full-time jobs, families and interests other than footy. Thank you for covering the costs of running the site that ads and subscriptions alone don't quite cover. Thank you for never taking a break: 365 days a year for two decades. Thank you for providing such an informative, interesting and fun space for Dees diehards to talk about the greatest football club in the world.

    To the folks who clearly need reminding that there’s certain things that can’t be discussed on DL… If that’s a problem for you, perhaps you can find *another footy forum, one wherein it’s open slather, and anything goes.

    What you SHOULDN’T do is create a new thread just to bemoan the censorship. Nor should you mock DL in snide remarks strewn about in other threads. Andy is the one who can and will be sued should something that “crosses the line” be published, even though it’s not him who said it.

    *good luck finding another footy forum that comes anywhere near the standard of this one.

    edit: I just saw the updated notice that appears above the topics list. Hopefully this time folks read it properly. 

    Edited by WalkingCivilWar

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    1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    I think a little reminder is in order…

    Thank you, mods.

    Thank you for the many, many hours you put into this site whilst juggling full-time jobs, families and interests other than footy. Thank you for covering the costs of running the site that ads and subscriptions alone don't quite cover. Thank you for never taking a break: 365 days a year for two decades. Thank you for providing such an informative, interesting and fun space for Dees diehards to talk about the greatest football club in the world.

    To the folks who clearly need reminding that there’s certain things that can’t be discussed on DL… If that’s a problem for you, perhaps you can find *another footy forum, one wherein it’s open slather, and anything goes.

    What you SHOULDN’T do is create a new thread just to bemoan the censorship. Nor should you mock DL in snide remarks strewn about in other threads. Andy is the one who can and will be sued should something that “crosses the line” be published, even though it’s not him who said it.

    *good luck finding another footy forum that comes anywhere near the standard of this one.

    edit: I just saw the updated notice that appears above the topics list. Hopefully this time folks read it properly. 

    Can Kane Cornes be Sued? He spends his entire shift discussing the Current MFC issues 

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    5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Can Kane Cornes be Sued? He spends his entire shift discussing the Current MFC issues 

    Obviously not. Otherwise he’d be lawyering up every five minutes.

     Come on M, you of all people should know that’s an entirely different thing (given your background of working in the media). 

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    1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    Obviously not. Otherwise he’d be lawyering up every five minutes.

     Come on M, you of all people should know that’s an entirely different thing (given your background of working in the media). 

    Once everything is in the public domain, the dynamics change. I find it interesting there is no discussion allowed considering Goodwin and Pert were interviewed on Radio…

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    1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Once everything is in the public domain, the dynamics change. I find it interesting there is no discussion allowed considering Goodwin and Pert were interviewed on Radio…

    Read every single word at the top of every page and respect this difficult decision. You aren’t the one with your ass on the line. 

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    11 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    Read every single word at the top of every page and respect this difficult decision. You aren’t the one with your [censored] on the line. 

    I am just asking a question, not starting an argument 

    if the Radio interview had not taken place, I fully understand your position 

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    I can appreciate how difficult and time consuming it must be to filter problematic content. Having said that, the blanket censorship and removal of posts that has occurred recently stymied Demonland members’ need to talk through what was happening. I found myself turning back to SEN and CH7 (media outlets I had removed from my listening habits) to keep up with developments. I’ll be honest, I felt Demonland had let us down in our hour of need. As superficial as that reaction may have been, it was ‘real’ at the time. Demonland is our first port of call in a crisis. It has a cathartic effect, to share impressions with fellow Demon supporters and seek a balanced view; something the wider media is unlikely to provide. For a period, Demonland became irrelevant! Contribution numbers fell away significantly. There must be some ‘middle ground’ that can be achieved in times like this.

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    4 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

    I can appreciate how difficult and time consuming it must be to filter problematic content. Having said that, the blanket censorship and removal of posts that has occurred recently stymied Demonland members’ need to talk through what was happening. I found myself turning back to SEN and CH7 (media outlets I had removed from my listening habits) to keep up with developments. I’ll be honest, I felt Demonland had let us down in our hour of need. As superficial as that reaction may have been, it was ‘real’ at the time. Demonland is our first port of call in a crisis. It has a cathartic effect, to share impressions with fellow Demon supporters and seek a balanced view; something the wider media is unlikely to provide. For a period, Demonland became irrelevant! Contribution numbers fell away significantly. There must be some ‘middle ground’ that can be achieved in times like this.

    Please re-read the top of the page. It has been updated today. 

    If you want Demonland to be around to discuss our 14th flag you’ll respect this difficult decision. 

    There are serious issues that warrant discussion and I wish I could provide a place where they can be discussed without getting into areas that can land me in trouble. 

    There are plenty of places on the internet to discuss these topics on social media which have deeper pockets then me and are seemingly immune to any fallout  

    I can’t afford to test the limits and our moderators are volunteers that can’t catch everything. 

    Don’t think that by shaming me by saying Demonland is/was irrelevant will change my mind when you have no skin in the game. 

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    33 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

    I felt Demonland had let us down in our hour of need.

    For a period, Demonland became irrelevant!

    Ffs, are you serious? “let us down”?!! The mods didn’t let anyone down. That’s emotional manipulation right there. Nor is DL irrelevant, temporarily or otherwise. 

    If DL means so very much to you, as you’ve made clear in your post, imagine not having it at all. Because that’s what’d happen if the mods end up being sued.

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    40 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    Read every single word at the top of every page and respect this difficult decision. You aren’t the one with your [censored] on the line. 

    Respect this position. Beware of the voices that urge you take on risk when those voices have no responsibility or accountability. The world is increasingly litigious and populated by folk who feel they should be compensated for some personal hurt or grievance. 

    Similar to the health industry where everyday medical professionals have to deal with patient requests and demands that may be inappropriate. If the professional provides a service just to avoid a confrontation or to keep the patient happy then the professional takes the risk of being investigated by the relevant health body. A  mistake or wrong action can risk a  professional losing their registration and right to practice. Together with the risk of financial penalty. As you say apropos of Demonland, the editors [censored] is on the line. You owe posters nothing.. 

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    10 minutes ago, hemingway said:

    Respect this position. Beware of the voices that urge you take on risk when those voices have no responsibility or accountability. The world is increasingly litigious and populated by folk who feel they should be compensated for some personal hurt or grievance. 

    Similar to the health industry where everyday medical professionals have to deal with patient requests and demands that may be inappropriate. If the professional provides a service just to avoid a confrontation or to keep the patient happy then the professional takes the risk of being investigated by the relevant health body. A  mistake or wrong action can risk a  professional losing their registration and right to practice. Together with the risk of financial penalty. As you say apropos of Demonland, the editors [censored] is on the line. You owe posters nothing.. 

    Very well said. Your last sentence, in particular. 

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    18 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    Ffs, are you serious? “let us down”?!! The mods didn’t let anyone down. That’s emotional manipulation right there. Nor is DL irrelevant, temporarily or otherwise. 

    If DL means so very much to you, as you’ve made clear in your post, imagine not having it at all. Because that’s what’d happen if the mods end up being sued.

    Unfortunately, you extracted sentences that supported your knee-jerks!

    "As superficial as that reaction may have been, it was ‘real’ at the time". I quote myself acknowledging that I was superficial to think that Demonland had let us down.

    "For a period, Demonland became irrelevant!" Meaning; 'not connected with or relevant to something'. Can you see my meaning?

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    7 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

    Unfortunately, you extracted sentences that supported your knee-jerks!

    "As superficial as that reaction may have been, it was ‘real’ at the time". I quote myself acknowledging that I was superficial to think that Demonland had let us down.

    "For a period, Demonland became irrelevant!" Meaning; 'not connected with or relevant to something'. Can you see my meaning?

    I can see your meaning. If you felt that way AT THE TIME, why post it now? Especially since you acknowledge the superficiality of it.

    And by any definition “irrelevant” is something that DL has never been nor will ever be.

    Incidentally, one who knee-jerks doesn’t take the time to extract certain sentences. That’s a contradiction in terms. 

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    42 minutes ago, old55 said:

    Keep up the great work @Demonland - hope this message is OK

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    Hey old55, I’ll see your T-shirt and raise you a hoodie…

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    😂

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    1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    I can see your meaning. If you felt that way AT THE TIME, why post it now? Especially since you acknowledge the superficiality of it.

    And by any definition “irrelevant” is something that DL has never been nor will ever be.

    Incidentally, one who knee-jerks doesn’t take the time to extract certain sentences. That’s a contradiction in terms. 

    The answer to your first question is simple. I was posting at the time, but those posts evaporated. I have a copy if you require evidence.

    I want to make this clear; I'm referring to Demonland the site, not Demonland an individual.

    I'm highlighting the role Demonland (the site) plays in providing a forum that helps steady the ship in a storm. I fully understand the decision that moderators enacted, I'm communicating the side-effects of that action.

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    1 minute ago, waynewussell said:

    The answer to your first question is simple. I was posting at the time, but those posts evaporated. I have a copy if you require evidence.

    I want to make this clear; I'm referring to Demonland the site, not Demonland an individual.

    I'm highlighting the role Demonland (the site) plays in providing a forum that helps steady the ship in a storm. I fully understand the decision that moderators enacted, I'm communicating the side-effects of that action.

    I get it. You don’t need to show me evidence since I’ve seen a lot of those posts before they were removed. I just took issue with the tone of your post, I got the vibe of entitlement. Maybe I’m being over-sensitive because I worry about losing this site. That would be just awful and senseless. I love DL for the reasons you outlined above, but I’m forever mindful that we’re lucky to have it and I’d hate for anything to jeopardise it. 

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    1 hour ago, Demonland said:

    Please re-read the top of the page. It has been updated today. 

    If you want Demonland to be around to discuss our 14th flag you’ll respect this difficult decision. 

    There are serious issues that warrant discussion and I wish I could provide a place where they can be discussed without getting into areas that can land me in trouble. 

    There are plenty of places on the internet to discuss these topics on social media which have deeper pockets then me and are seemingly immune to any fallout  

    I can’t afford to test the limits and our moderators are volunteers that can’t catch everything. 

    Don’t think that by shaming me by saying Demonland is/was irrelevant will change my mind when you have no skin in the game. 

    on this, why can other platforms discuss this without ramifications and not Dland? interested to hear why you think Dland is different on this? none of the other websites or platforms have been sued at all with any of the discussions that have taken place about any topic. namely bigfooty.

     

    Not arguing just more so pointing out that there is a lot more rumours and inuenndo on there and they havent been brought to their knees.

     

    I totally get the idea of potential risk that you dont want to roll the dice with it though, was more just stating that nothing has happened to the biggest rumor mill of all in bigfooty.

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    cant see how dland became irrelevant.... thats a bit harsh, they probably had more members logging in discussing trade period than ever before.

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    Whoa, must have missed something. Been in Singapore for a while and coming back feels like I left the room and a fight started.

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    4 hours ago, Left Foot Snap said:

    Whoa, must have missed something. Been in Singapore for a while and coming back feels like I left the room and a fight started.

    haha think ill join ya in singapore!!!

     

     

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