Does anyone else find it perverse?

[Johnny Karate 559]

.... that there are a number of people on here hoping someone loses their job?

[Seekers SEECAMP 0]

Its sure better than the alternative.

[Johnny Karate 559]

Its sure better than the alternative.

What?

We storm home, make top four and he keeps his job?

[Jaded No More 60,124]

The club comes before the individual, any individual, be it a player or a coach.

Everyone who posts here has the best interests of the club at heart.

Some believe that Daniher's coaching is no longer in our best interests.

You can hardly blame Melbourne supporters for being frustrated, fed up and ready for a change.

You've been reading these boards long enough to know that the calls for Daniher to be replaced are nothing new. In his 10th year as coach, and still no premiership, time seems to be well and truly ticking.

It will be unfortunate if in the end, a long and miserable injury list, is what brings him down.

Mind you, our issues run deeper than our injury list.

Edit: I hate to shatter your dreams, but we are no chance to finish top 4, which means we are no chance to win a premiership, which makes all the points I made above valid.

[Seekers SEECAMP 0]

I can't accept the level of mediocrity some supporters are perpetually willing to absorb.

[beelzebub 22,724]

some people may look upon it as someone losing their job..

others look upon it as a club losing its way !!

i barrack for a club....not a person

[Seekers SEECAMP 0]

The club comes before the individual, any individual, be it a player or a coach.

Everyone who posts here has the best interests of the club at heart.

Some believe that Daniher's coaching is no longer in our best interests.

You can hardly blame Melbourne supporters for being frustrated, fed up and ready for a change.

You've been reading these boards long enough to know that the calls for Daniher to be replaced are nothing new. In his 10th year as coach, and still no premiership, time seems to be well and truly ticking.

It will be unfortunate if in the end, a long and miserable injury list, is what brings him down.

Mind you, our issues are deeper than our injury list.

Spot on Jaded!!!

[kieranbj 111]

True, I hope neale keeps his job because to do so means a drastic turnaround.

That however looks unlikely to say the least but gee I hope it does happen.

I also hope Yze, Godfrey, Miller, Bate, ward, Jamar and everyone else on our list performs at their best because lets remember winning games of football is so much more important then being able to come on this board and say on Sunday night 'I told you so'.

[Johnny Karate 559]

I can't accept the level of mediocrity some supporters are perpetually willing to absorb.

A true supporter accepts things as they are, takes the bad with the good or indifferent and turns up every week.

What would you prefer?

No one turns up to games or signs up as members as some form of protest against the fact we haven't won anything for 43 years and because the current team is struggling?

As for the comment "I support a club, not an individual." Good point but while Daniher is coach he is part of this club and I will support him.

[Seekers SEECAMP 0]

.... that there are a number of people on here hoping someone loses their job?

FWIW, I sense Daniher to be a realist. 10 years as senior coach has exceeded his personal expectations by a mile. Time for him to join an elite company of former coaches who have been there, done that eg; Matthews, Blight..only difference is, these guys have silverware.

[Johnny Karate 559]

I also hope Yze, Godfrey, Miller, Bate, ward, Jamar and everyone else on our list performs at their best because lets remember winning games of football is so much more important then being able to come on this board and say on Sunday night 'I told you so'.

Sage words, my friend.

It amazes me how people think they can create positive change with negative bitching and moaning!

[Seekers SEECAMP 0]

A true supporter accepts things as they are, takes the bad with the good or indifferent and turns up every week.

What would you prefer?

No one turns up to games or signs up as members as some form of protest against the fact we haven't won anything for 43 years and because the current team is struggling?

As for the comment "I support a club, not an individual." Good point but while Daniher is coach he is part of this club and I will support him.

Daniher has no idea. After 10 years enough is enough. Windy Hill beckons. If still in doubt Slander, read my previous post.

[Seekers SEECAMP 0]

True, I hope neale keeps his job because to do so means a drastic turnaround.

That however looks unlikely to say the least but gee I hope it does happen.

I also hope Yze, Godfrey, Miller, Bate, ward, Jamar and everyone else on our list performs at their best because lets remember winning games of football is so much more important then being able to come on this board and say on Sunday night 'I told you so'.

I am sure Neale would totally agree. Its just a damn shame he is clueless.

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

A director of the melbourne football club is my godfather and old man's best mate. having spoken to him today, there are 7 or so players that he thought won't be playing next year. He said Bizzell should play, and its ridiculous how the club gives him a 3 year contract and he cant get a game ahead of these 7 other players. And expect some changes to the side this week. petterd and buckley seem likely to get a gig.

[beelzebub 22,724]

ive been following these boys in red and blue for near 43 years. Ive done my dues of following though thick and thin... well mainly thin..as we havent really had any succes in all that time ( sorry if its my fault ...lol ) . we all follow and support this team in varying ways according to oportunity and priorities. But essentially we follow and barrack for Melbourne for whatever reason it is.

Tell me please where the quality or passion for a club is comensurate with any form of masochism. Why put up with just any slop thats put up before you? does one do this with other elements of life ? actually some do..and in their realm nothing changes. If you are prepared to cop medicrioty ...bully for you. If you wear disappointment and under-achievement as some badge of honour, then I suggest we have very differing ideas of goals.

I dont expect success out of our club...I just want it. If inthe process of this achievement those that have tried and failed are passed over or indeed put to the sword, well thats life. They would have known thats the course of events should failure be their record.

There simply has to be a point where you call enough as being enough.

[Jaded No More 60,124]

A true supporter accepts things as they are, takes the bad with the good or indifferent and turns up every week.

What would you prefer?

No one turns up to games or signs up as members as some form of protest against the fact we haven't won anything for 43 years and because the current team is struggling?

As for the comment "I support a club, not an individual." Good point but while Daniher is coach he is part of this club and I will support him.

I don't think you'll find a lot of posters who don't go to games as some sort of punishment to the club.

I go every week, and I stay until the final siren even if we are getting our arses handed to us on a plate (like on Sunday).

Let me ask you this, do you blindly support every player who pulls on a Melbourne gurnsey, or are you enough of a realist to recognise that some players (if not all) have their downfalls?

How is that any different to Daniher? Yes, he's done a great job promoting our football club. He has battled on despite board upheavals, draft penalties, poor finances and facilities and so on, but his primary job (as he said himself) is to win games.

As a 10 year coach, he needs to be judged on his performances, not in isolation, but over the whole 10 year period. 7 years ago he got us to a grand final. 4 years ago, we were bottom 4. For the past 3 seasons who scrapped into the top 8 and were extremely disappointing in September. All this while having a relatively good run with injuries.

This year we will no doubt struggle because we have significant injuries. Nobody blames Daniher for that, but in the big scheme of things we will again be unsuccessful.

Bottom line is, he hasn't got us what we all want, a premiership. Does that make him a bad person? Of course not. Does that make him a bad coach? Not even. Does that make him a candidate for criticism? Absolutely.

A lot of supporters, myself included, don't want to get rid of Daniher for the sake of getting rid of him. We want him gone because we can't see a change happening any other way.

BTW, I've always maintained that it's not who you criticise, but how you do it.

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

he certainly will be taking supporters feelings and obviously as the board meets surely they will talk about the on-field situation.

[Seekers SEECAMP 0]

A director of the melbourne football club is my godfather and old man's best mate. having spoken to him today, there are 7 or so players that he thought won't be playing next year. He said Bizzell should play, and its ridiculous how the club gives him a 3 year contract and he cant get a game ahead of these 7 other players. And expect some changes to the side this week. petterd and buckley seem likely to get a gig.

What, Neale won't have the final say this week..Slander, he is totally gone!

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

him being on the board mate, would say he has some idea having talked to his fellow directors and people within the club on who will play and won't this week.

[Seekers SEECAMP 0]

Sounds like you are in the know, Lord. Interesting!!

[beelzebub 22,724]

directors can exert pressure...directors dont pick teams. So who are the seven not playig in red and blue next year ?

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

it would be silly to name them as they might play next year, and i also dont want to start anything, but he said that amongst the board list management seems to be the problem from us winning a flag. and we discussed players.

[Red and Blue Flame 142]

do we know if trav has really broken his hand or not

[Johnny Karate 559]

Seekers,

FWIW I also think Daniher is a realist and understands that anything other than top four will probably se him not get another contract.

I have disagreed with some of the things he has done (particularly during matches!) down the years, however to reach the highest level of coaching and playing AFL commands some level of respect. Coaching is by no means an easy gig at any level especially in the AFL where fortunes (and supporters) can be fickle.

This thread isn't directed at people like you or Jaded who give a realistic perspective of the situation. It's more directed at the litany of morans who write things along the line of "ZOMG I hope he lose his jarb as we will b sooo much betterer under Garry Lyon or Michael Voss!!1!1"

I just find it sad that there are people who seem to be enjoying our and Daniher's plight at the moment! Because those fates are very much intwined.

[Seekers SEECAMP 0]

it would be silly to name them as they might play next year, and i also dont want to start anything, but he said that amongst the board list management seems to be the problem from us winning a flag. and we discussed players.

Well, this river runs deep.